Current Events > Hasan says media trying to dupe us to get onboard for war with Russia.

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WingsOfGood
02/17/22 3:39:48 PM
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Had to remake thread due to chat in pic having uncensored words that would got me modded

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s0nicfan
02/17/22 3:41:44 PM
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Did he forget that they invaded and annexed Crimea in 2014?

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WingsOfGood
02/17/22 3:45:46 PM
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s0nicfan posted...
Did he forget that they invaded and annexed Crimea in 2014?

No he did not. Unlike you he did not forget that Crimea had wanted to be part of Russia historically. He is even talking about that right now.
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s0nicfan
02/17/22 3:46:45 PM
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WingsOfGood posted...
No he did not. Unlike you he did not forget that Crimea had wanted to be part of Russia historically. He is even talking about that right now.

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/2/1/9/AABJX0AAC8Cr.jpg

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WingsOfGood
02/17/22 3:47:09 PM
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The 2019 survey found that 82% of Crimea's population supported Crimea's accession to Russia, as opposed to 86% in 2014. The survey also found that 58% of Crimean Tatars now supported Crimea's accession to Russia, as opposed to 39% in 2014.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2014_Crimean_status_referendum

He talking about this, telling his chat they stupid. Join his chat and bring it up and maybe he talk to you also.
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WingsOfGood
02/17/22 3:51:22 PM
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s0nicfan posted...
https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/2/1/9/AABJX0AAC8Cr.jpg

https://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2014/03/16/290525623/crimeans-vote-on-splitting-from-ukraine-to-join-russia

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/monkey-cage/wp/2014/03/06/do-crimeans-actually-want-to-join-russia/

Still, the results do illustrate important differences between Crimea and other regions of Ukraine that are likely to be politically consequential. Crimeans are broadly opposed to a dramatic westward geopolitical reorientation of Ukraine, and a substantial minority supported either independence or full political union even before February. Much will depend, of course, on how people interpret the tumultuous events that have taken place since our data were collected. Early signs on this are mixed. Reports from Crimea feature some people very supportive of recent Russian actions and some extremely critical, but the balance is impossible to know given the enormous difficulty of conducting reliable polls in the current context. Nevertheless, as these baseline data suggest, the balance of opinion in Crimea is delicate, and there is much to play for in the coming weeks and months.


2014 reporting

this is amerrican media not russian bots
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COVxy
02/17/22 3:52:34 PM
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Who the fuck cares this dude thinks?

Lmao. Take a good look at yourself.

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WingsOfGood
02/17/22 3:53:09 PM
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COVxy posted...
Who the fuck cares this dude thinks?

Lmao. Take a good look at yourself.

atm

27,927 people
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COVxy
02/17/22 3:53:57 PM
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WingsOfGood posted...
atm

27,927 people

Yeah, that's the primary issue.

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AngelicRadiance
02/17/22 3:54:35 PM
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Is TC gonna go full tankie? Find out next time on CE!

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WingsOfGood
02/17/22 3:55:23 PM
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COVxy posted...
Yeah, that's the primary issue.

so now too many people care?

sure changed your tune fast
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ScazarMeltex
02/17/22 3:55:29 PM
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WingsOfGood posted...
No he did not. Unlike you he did not forget that Crimea had wanted to be part of Russia historically. He is even talking about that right now.
Yeah....no. I trust that data about as much as I trust the plebiscite that Austria had where they "voted" to be annexed by Germany.

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COVxy
02/17/22 3:55:37 PM
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"My youtubz streamers tell me all the real truths"

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s0nicfan
02/17/22 3:55:42 PM
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WingsOfGood posted...
The 2019 survey found that 82% of Crimea's population supported Crimea's accession to Russia, as opposed to 86% in 2014. The survey also found that 58% of Crimean Tatars now supported Crimea's accession to Russia, as opposed to 39% in 2014.


WingsOfGood posted...
the balance is impossible to know given the enormous difficulty of conducting reliable polls in the current context.

When you're trying to propaganda so hard you start disapproving your own evidence without anyone having to say anything.

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COVxy
02/17/22 3:56:34 PM
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WingsOfGood posted...
so now too many people care?

sure changed your tune fast

My tune is that nobody should be listening to fucking streamers for their views on complex nongaming related topics lol.

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WingsOfGood
02/17/22 3:57:21 PM
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AngelicRadiance posted...
Is TC gonna go full tankie? Find out next time on CE!

I don't even want to change our system. I just want people to be aware of things and care about their rights.
And, not be so against social reforms.

So, to answer your question,

no
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Materus
02/17/22 3:58:27 PM
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The guy who defends the Armenian genocide? That Hasan? Who tf care what that racist thinks.

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WingsOfGood
02/17/22 3:59:32 PM
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COVxy posted...
My tune is that nobody should be listening to fucking streamers for their views on complex nongaming related topics lol.

What do you make of the photo however?

It lists the dates of articles and their source.

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OmegaShinkai
02/17/22 4:00:15 PM
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I'm sure those Crimea poll results have nothing to do with the fact that ethnic Ukranians and Crimean Tartars found themselves displaced when their homes suddenly became part of Russia, right?
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EmbraceOfDeath
02/17/22 4:02:22 PM
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WingsOfGood posted...
No he did not. Unlike you he did not forget that Crimea had wanted to be part of Russia historically. He is even talking about that right now.
Yikes.

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BignutzisBack
02/17/22 4:03:39 PM
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Have not heard good things about this Hasan dude

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WingsOfGood
02/17/22 4:09:31 PM
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OmegaShinkai posted...
I'm sure those Crimea poll results have nothing to do with the fact that ethnic Ukranians and Crimean Tartars found themselves displaced when their homes suddenly became part of Russia, right?


https://www.politico.eu/article/crimea-refufees-crimean-tatar-ukraine-russia-moscow-conflict-displaced-people-invasion/

An estimated 60,000 to 100,000 people have left Crimea for mainland Ukraine since 2014.
They are part of an internally displaced population of as many as 1.5 million whove left the peninsula or war-torn areas of eastern Ukraine under Russian control.



According to the census result the population of the Crimean Federal District is 2.2844 million people. The ethnic composition is as follows: Russians: 1.49 million (65.3%), Ukrainians: 0.35 million (15.1%), Crimean Tatars: 0.24 million (12.0%).


Can't find much info on how many actually left Crimea.

Anyone care to offer up some links?

The 1.5 million doesn't appear to be just from Crimea.

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Squall28
02/17/22 4:10:34 PM
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AngelicRadiance posted...
Is TC gonna go full tankie? Find out next time on CE!

That's what happens people keep limiting their news sources to things they want to hear. I told people like OP so many times how dangerous these echo chambers are, and he keeps doubling down on it.

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WingsOfGood
02/17/22 4:12:37 PM
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Squall28 posted...
That's what happens people keep limiting their news sources to things they want to hear. I told people like OP so many times how dangerous these echo chambers are, and he keeps doubling down on it.

  1. You never told me that.
  2. I have no idea what news source you go to.
  3. I basically search and consume all newsource. I have posted from vox, cnn, fox, abc, npr, whitehouse, random youtubers, twitch, reddit, all sorts of stuff.
  4. Business insider, forbes, yahoo, barrons, and on and on


But I guess you prove you are willing to lie about stuff?
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Ivynn
02/17/22 4:13:04 PM
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Putin-senpai will never notice you, TC.

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WingsOfGood
02/17/22 4:15:04 PM
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Ivynn posted...
Putin-senpai will never notice you, TC.

good. I hope he leaves me alone and goes away
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AablMind
02/17/22 4:16:04 PM
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You will adopt the state-approved geopolitical view without question, TC.

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UnholyMudcrab
02/17/22 4:16:46 PM
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Both the referendum and the Crimean declaration of independence were illegal on their face because the constitution of Ukraine only allows for such votes when the entire Ukrainian population can vote on it.

To say nothing about the problems with holding a vote with soldiers watching the polling places

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WingsOfGood
02/17/22 4:17:31 PM
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UnholyMudcrab posted...
Both the referendum and the Crimean declaration of independence were illegal on their face because the constitution of Ukraine only allows for such votes when the entire Ukrainian population can vote on it.

To say nothing about the problems with holding a vote with soldiers watching the polling places

then I guess Hasan is wrong on this one
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ScazarMeltex
02/17/22 4:18:21 PM
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WingsOfGood posted...
then I guess Hasan is wrong on this one
Whodathunkit?

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RenescoStCewl
02/17/22 4:19:36 PM
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WingsOfGood posted...
good. I hope he leaves me alone and goes away
Are you sure? You seem to want him to invade Ukraine now.

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WingsOfGood
02/17/22 4:19:51 PM
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also it is hilarious that posters try to troll me about being for Russia or whatever when I was literally just hours ago posting anti-russians posts and saying they would be trying to start war

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/boards/400-current-events/79901688

and in that thread users were like "shut up! it won't happen!"

you guys need to grow up

echo chamber is NOT listening to all sides of the arguments

saying "I shut my ears because Hasan!" is an echo chamber

I considered his view, and now I consider your views as well
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refmon
02/17/22 4:20:02 PM
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Does TC seriously not know Hasans a grifter?

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WingsOfGood
02/17/22 4:20:48 PM
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RenescoStCewl posted...
Are you sure? You seem to want him to invade Ukraine now.

@RenescoStCewl

The op of this thread declared the opposite. Hasan's take is there will be no invasion and that America is trying to fire up their people via the media.

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greyfox747
02/17/22 4:22:20 PM
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WingsOfGood posted...
then I guess Hasan is wrong on this one
But he has so many viewers

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WingsOfGood
02/17/22 4:22:56 PM
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greyfox747 posted...
But he has so many viewers

I never said that made him right

covxy said "who cares what he says"

post 3 I did assume he might have been right as he usually has good takes however, not because his view count though
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RenescoStCewl
02/17/22 4:24:14 PM
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WingsOfGood posted...
@RenescoStCewl

The op of this thread declared the opposite. Hasan's take is there will be no invasion and that America is trying to fire up their people via the media.
Where did this Hasan guy get his insider info from that every government in the world missed?

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DeadBankerDream
02/17/22 4:24:17 PM
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TC wanting to put his penis into Hasan's anus is the weirdest gimmick.

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WingsOfGood
02/17/22 4:25:27 PM
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RenescoStCewl posted...
Where did this Hasan guy get his insider info from that every government in the world missed?

He based his opinion on this

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/2/1/1/AAefUOAAC8Cj.jpg
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WingsOfGood
02/17/22 4:27:48 PM
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DeadBankerDream posted...
TC wanting to put his penis into Hasan's anus is the weirdest gimmick.

I am actually straight so I do not desire that

but apparently he is attractive to many gay men and he has 2 best buddies who are gay who joke about this
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DeadBankerDream
02/17/22 4:28:32 PM
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Yes, you don't actually want to do it. Wanting to do it is the gimmick you've chosen for this GameFAQs account.

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IndorilGawain
02/17/22 4:29:11 PM
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Even *if* we took as true the idea that Crimea wanted to be part of Russia, that still doesnt excuse the invasion and annexation of a sovereign state. To say otherwise is to cede Ukrainian sovereignty to Russia in its entirety

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WingsOfGood
02/17/22 4:29:38 PM
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DeadBankerDream posted...
Yes, you don't actually want to do it. Wanting to do it is the gimmick you've chosen for this GameFAQs account.

when did I ever as a gimmick pretend to want this?

stop making false claims
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IndorilGawain
02/17/22 4:30:00 PM
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WingsOfGood posted...
then I guess Hasan is wrong on this one
Lmao oh no thats impossible. Hes a fucking tankie twitch streamer, not some august geopolitical scholar

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WingsOfGood
02/17/22 4:30:40 PM
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IndorilGawain posted...
not some august geopolitical scholar

Do you think these people are always right?
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IndorilGawain
02/17/22 4:31:46 PM
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WingsOfGood posted...
Do you think these people are always right?
Nope! But I do believe expertise has some value!

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WingsOfGood
02/17/22 4:33:24 PM
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IndorilGawain posted...
Nope! But I do believe expertise has some value!

ok. you realize that Hasan did go to college for political science and worked as a reporter before twitch though?
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DeadBankerDream
02/17/22 4:34:41 PM
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Getting a job at your uncle's media firm through pure nepotism and no qualifications to be a talking head that repeats the moronic party line is not being a reporter.

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IndorilGawain
02/17/22 4:34:55 PM
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A BA in political science does not make one an expert on the situation in Ukraine, sorry

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WingsOfGood
02/17/22 4:38:50 PM
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IndorilGawain posted...
A BA in political science does not make one an expert on the situation in Ukraine, sorry

Correct. Do you think he did not cover the past events as both a commentator and contributor for the huffingtonpost?
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