Current Events > Plumbers should be given equity in any home they service

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it is exploitation of their labor to only pay them the agreed upon amount while you get to live in your house

plumbers should get an equity stake in any house they fix so they can benefit from its appreciation in value

put a stop to homeowners leeching off laborers

your mom gave me equity

Dumbest strawman I've seen in a while, bravo.

People who make computer programs should get equity in all computers that their programs are installed on as well.

I know you're being facetious, but there are actually people on this board who believe that "owning property" is a human rights violation because it means other people might be homeless.

Gave me a chuckle. I almost got here before someone said it was a strawman too.

Can I raise their children and we'll call it even?

you guys might want to look up the difference between a strawman and an analogy

What's sad is I cannot tell if this is satire or 100% serious. That's how deranged the anti land/property owner crowd has become

PoundGarden posted...

What's sad is I cannot tell if this is satire or 100% serious. That's how deranged the anti land/property owner crowd has become

It's g#'s so it's def satire

g980 posted...

it is exploitation of their labor to only pay them the agreed upon amount while you get to live in your house

plumbers should get an equity stake in any house they fix so they can benefit from its appreciation in value

put a stop to homeowners leeching off laborers

If they want to help pay for the debt then they can have the equity.

I know I am doing good work when tc has a meltdown like this.

theAteam posted...

It's g#'s so it's def satire

PoundGarden is anti-worker rights and claims to be an ex-HR department boss

@theAteam

They should wear ties too

Based on what Ive been charged by plumbers in the past, I would think they are compensated quite well.

CE_gonna_CE posted...

Based on what Ive been charged by plumbers in the past, I would think they are compensated quite well.

I am reminded of a story/video about how carpenters are becoming a dying breed due to the crappy wages and that most are transitioning over to plumbing and the like.

CE_gonna_CE posted...

Based on what Ive been charged by plumbers in the past, I would think they are compensated quite well.

isn't funny how people like tc say dumb stuff like "get a trade job!" you know, like plumbing?

but then they all the sudden pretend that the discussion of exploitation is discussing these jobs even people like tc think make very good money

not to mention, most plumbers are SELF employed

Your analogy went down the drain

WingsOfGood posted...

isn't funny how people like tc say dumb stuff like "get a trade job!" you know, like plumbing?

but then they all the sudden pretend that the discussion of exploitation is discussing these jobs even people like tc think make very good money

not to mention, most plumbers are SELF employed

whoosh

ellis123 posted...

I am reminded of a story/video about how carpenters are becoming a dying breed due to the crappy wages and that most are transitioning over to plumbing and the like.

plus they all hate youtube since it demystifies the whole process of fixing all the shit in your house.

g980 posted...

whoosh

oh that went over your head?

let me help you out

exploitation is when the owner of a business exploits the labor of someone they have employed

you are using in your op, a person who employed themselves and saying "but but but guys, he is exploited?"

really dumb post

monkmith posted...

plus they all hate youtube since it demystifies the whole process of fixing all the shit in your house.

Not really. Plumbing/Carpentry/etc. tend to not be done by most people because they are hard to do right over any length of time correctly. If anything most would hate Youtube because it makes the jobs look way easier than they actually are, and thus they would have to come in after the owner had already royally screwed up.

WingsOfGood posted...

oh that went over your head?

let me help you out

exploitation is when the owner of a business exploits the labor of someone they have employed

you are using in your op, a person who employed themselves and saying "but but but guys, he is exploited?"

really dumb post

Arbitrary distinction

tc really trying to argue you can exploit yourself

ellis123 posted...

Not really. Plumbing/Carpentry/etc. tend to not be done by most people because they are hard to do right over any length of time correctly. If anything most would hate Youtube because it makes the jobs look way easier than they actually are, and thus they would have to come in after the owner had already royally screwed up.

i swapped out all the water valves in my house a year ago, without youtube i'd have never tried it because i'd never used a soldering torch and didn't know how to work with copper pipe. probably saved a grand because of it.

monkmith posted...

i swapped out all the water valves in my house a year ago, without youtube i'd have never tried it because i'd never used a soldering torch and didn't know how to work with copper pipe. probably saved a grand because of it.

"but were you paid for that labor??? EXPLOITED!"

likely what tc is thinking atm

wings idunno what your jam is but you've gone from background noise to 200% reading incapacity in like a week

ellis123 posted...

Not really. Plumbing/Carpentry/etc. tend to not be done by most people because they are hard to do right over any length of time correctly. If anything most would hate Youtube because it makes the jobs look way easier than they actually are, and thus they would have to come in after the owner had already royally screwed up.

IDK about that. I had a leaky window once. I looked up a YouTube video on how to fix it. I then proceeded to do it in the dark, while on a stepladder (the video was for fixing a first floor window) and while I probably did a shitty job compared to a pro, I successfully stopped the leak and the only expenses I had were for the silicone gel and rented truck & ladder.

g980 posted...

it is exploitation of their labor to only pay them the agreed upon amount

Guide posted...

wings idunno what your jam is but you've gone from background noise to 200% reading incapacity in like a week

What did I not read?

Tyranthraxus posted...

IDK about that. I had a leaky window once. I looked up a YouTube video on how to fix it. I then proceeded to do it in the dark, while on a stepladder (the video was for fixing a first floor window) and while I probably did a shitty job compared to a pro, I successfully stopped the leak and the only expenses I had were for the silicone gel and rented truck & ladder.

The existence of easy jobs within a trade job does not trivialize the majority of what has to be done in said trade jobs.

ellis123 posted...

The existence of easy jobs within a trade job does not trivialize the majority of what has to be done in said trade jobs.

no, but disputing the fact that it cuts into their bread and butter, the fucking simple jobs that most people dont do because they're afraid they'll break something, comes off as disingenuous. something as simple as swapping out a wax seal on a toilet can net a plumber a couple hundred in labor for 15 minutes work, "how to" videos on youtube has absolutely cut into that market.

The funny thing about all this is companies do give out shares of their company, especially at early stages. Those early employees at google, Amazon, etc are prob filthy rich.

And once they're bigger, there are usually some kind of Employee stock program to get you some deal on the company's stock

Squall28 posted...

The funny thing about all this is companies do give out shares of their company, especially at early stages. Those early employees at google, Amazon, etc are prob filthy rich.

And once they're bigger, there are usually some kind of Employee stock program to get you some deal on the company's stock

This cant possibly be happening of their own volition, it must be state mandated and we didnt notice

Gynecologists: I now have 10% equity stake in your reproductive system.

lol @ squall and g980 trying to echo chamber

all the while not even making a good point

Wow this is a new level of stupid

WingsOfGood posted...

lol @ squall and g980 trying to echo chamber

all the while not even making a good point

If we wanted to echo chamber, we wouldn't be posting on communist events. All I did was state a fact, and like usual, you ignore it to try to "win" an argument.

Squall28 posted...

we wouldn't be posting on communist events.

This man actually called himself moderate in another thread.

WingsOfGood posted...

This man actually called himself moderate in another thread.

I flat out vote Democrat and support the majority of their platform. I'm a moderate in comparison to you. The fact that you think I'm not moderate or even far right, speaks volumes about how far down the rabbit hole you've gone.