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Veggeta_MAX 02/10/22 3:17:05 PM #1:	I'm glad this game is getting a remaster so we can further discuss the shitty plot. Just in case you forgot, everything that happened in this game was "masterfully" planned by Belthasar to power up Surge and party to destroy the Time Devourer and save Schala. --- I'm Veggeta X's alt <cite>Veggeta_MAX posted [p:962536368] in Reminder: ... [t:79893293]...</cite> <quote>I'm glad this game is getting a remaster so we can further discuss the shitty plot. Just in case you forgot, everything that happened in this game was "masterfully" planned by Belthasar to power up Surge and party to destroy the Time Devourer and save Schala. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Caution999 02/10/22 3:18:12 PM #2:	Not every villain can be as smart as Kefka or Kuja tbh... actually I read your post wrong, just disregard this --- "With half my brain tied behind my back - just to make it fair." <cite>Caution999 posted [p:962536391] in Reminder: ... [t:79893293]...</cite> <quote>Not every villain can be as smart as Kefka or Kuja tbh... actually I read your post wrong, just disregard this </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
masterpug53 02/10/22 3:20:00 PM #3:	I didn't need reminded. Remember the master-stroke of powerful storytelling that was ~~the reveal that Lynx was Serge's father?~~ --- Simple questions deserve long-winded answers that no one will bother to read. https://imgur.com/eW67nT8 - Artwork by Wii_Shaker <cite>masterpug53 posted [p:962536437] in Reminder: ... [t:79893293]...</cite> <quote>I didn't need reminded. Remember the master-stroke of powerful storytelling that was the reveal that Lynx was Serge's father? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
PowerOats 02/10/22 3:23:19 PM #4:	I've never played it, but do you think this remaster will spawn a 'CC was never good' kinda discussion? <cite>PowerOats posted [p:962536531] in Reminder: ... [t:79893293]...</cite> <quote>I've never played it, but do you think this remaster will spawn a 'CC was never good' kinda discussion?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
pfh1001 02/10/22 3:25:34 PM #5:	masterpug53 posted... I didn't need reminded. Remember the master-stroke of powerful storytelling that was ~~the reveal that Lynx was Serge's father?~~ Add onto that the ~~body swap~~ portion of the game and it's effectively ripping off both Star Wars & all those 18 Again/Freaky Friday types. <cite>pfh1001 posted [p:962536608] in Reminder: ... [t:79893293]...</cite> <quote>masterpug53 posted...</cite> <quote>I didn't need reminded. Remember the master-stroke of powerful storytelling that was the reveal that Lynx was Serge's father? </quote> Add onto that the body swap portion of the game and it's effectively ripping off both Star Wars & all those 18 Again/Freaky Friday types.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
masterpug53 02/10/22 3:26:07 PM #6:	PowerOats posted... I've never played it, but do you think this remaster will spawn a 'CC was never good' kinda discussion? It's more likely that it'll spawn 'Chrono Trigger was never good' discussions. And by 'discussions' I mean 'attempts at deflection that sound like particularly fluid trouser accidents.' --- Simple questions deserve long-winded answers that no one will bother to read. https://imgur.com/eW67nT8 - Artwork by Wii_Shaker <cite>masterpug53 posted [p:962536625] in Reminder: ... [t:79893293]...</cite> <quote>PowerOats posted... </cite> <quote>I've never played it, but do you think this remaster will spawn a 'CC was never good' kinda discussion?</quote> It's more likely that it'll spawn 'Chrono Trigger was never good' discussions. And by 'discussions' I mean 'attempts at deflection that sound like particularly fluid trouser accidents.' </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
AldousIsDead 02/10/22 3:26:33 PM #7:	Name me a psx era jrpg who's story didn't jump up it's own ass. --- In simplicity, utility. Through utility, simplicity. <cite>AldousIsDead posted [p:962536638] in Reminder: ... [t:79893293]...</cite> <quote>Name me a psx era jrpg who's story didn't jump up it's own ass. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Veggeta_MAX 02/10/22 3:27:22 PM #8:	PowerOats posted... I've never played it, but do you think this remaster will spawn a 'CC was never good' kinda discussion? It should --- I'm Veggeta X's alt <cite>Veggeta_MAX posted [p:962536657] in Reminder: ... [t:79893293]...</cite> <quote>PowerOats posted... </cite> <quote>I've never played it, but do you think this remaster will spawn a 'CC was never good' kinda discussion?</quote>It should </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Veggeta_MAX 02/10/22 3:28:07 PM #9:	AldousIsDead posted... Name me a psx era jrpg who's story didn't jump up it's own ass. FF7 --- I'm Veggeta X's alt <cite>Veggeta_MAX posted [p:962536680] in Reminder: ... [t:79893293]...</cite> <quote>AldousIsDead posted... </cite> <quote>Name me a psx era jrpg who's story didn't jump up it's own ass.</quote>FF7 </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Jabodie 02/10/22 3:28:11 PM #10:	PowerOats posted... I've never played it, but do you think this remaster will spawn a 'CC was never good' kinda discussion? It's now of a "CC is still bad" kinda discussion. --- <insert sig here> <cite>Jabodie posted [p:962536682] in Reminder: ... [t:79893293]...</cite> <quote>PowerOats posted... </cite> <quote>I've never played it, but do you think this remaster will spawn a 'CC was never good' kinda discussion?</quote>It's now of a "CC is still bad" kinda discussion. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
AldousIsDead 02/10/22 3:29:26 PM #11:	Veggeta_MAX posted... FF7 You and I have differing opinions then, certainly. --- In simplicity, utility. Through utility, simplicity. <cite>AldousIsDead posted [p:962536709] in Reminder: ... [t:79893293]...</cite> <quote>Veggeta_MAX posted... </cite> <quote>FF7</quote>You and I have differing opinions then, certainly. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
masterpug53 02/10/22 3:32:17 PM #12:	AldousIsDead posted... Name me a psx era jrpg who's story didn't jump up it's own ass. While it almost trips at the finish line in this regard, FF 9 managed to keep at least a toe on the ground with its overall plot. --- Simple questions deserve long-winded answers that no one will bother to read. https://imgur.com/eW67nT8 - Artwork by Wii_Shaker <cite>masterpug53 posted [p:962536793] in Reminder: ... [t:79893293]...</cite> <quote>AldousIsDead posted... </cite> <quote>Name me a psx era jrpg who's story didn't jump up it's own ass.</quote> While it almost trips at the finish line in this regard, FF 9 managed to keep at least a toe on the ground with its overall plot. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Veggeta_MAX 02/10/22 3:32:22 PM #13:	Let's talk about the Time Crash. This is a Chrono Wiki explaining what it is: The Time Crash was a cataclysmic temporal distortion that hurled Chronopolis and the Sea of Eden ten thousand years into the past. It grew out of the Counter-Time Experiment, an effort to master control over time through the use of the Frozen Flame. Specifically, Group 3B released the Frozen Flame's lock-level to D in order to trace something called the counter-time effect. This caused Chronopolis to become exposed to Lavos somehow, who placed the institute ten thousand years in the past in hopes of disrupting Crono's quest. From outside view, the Time Crash appeared as a giant, black energy dome erupting from the center of the time research institution. Now, who wants to re-explain this so it's easier to understand? LMAO --- I'm Veggeta X's alt <cite>Veggeta_MAX posted [p:962536798] in Reminder: ... [t:79893293]...</cite> <quote>Let's talk about the Time Crash. This is a Chrono Wiki explaining what it is: <quote>The Time Crash was a cataclysmic temporal distortion that hurled Chronopolis and the Sea of Eden ten thousand years into the past. It grew out of the Counter-Time Experiment, an effort to master control over time through the use of the Frozen Flame. Specifically, Group 3B released the Frozen Flame's lock-level to D in order to trace something called the counter-time effect. This caused Chronopolis to become exposed to Lavos somehow, who placed the institute ten thousand years in the past in hopes of disrupting Crono's quest. From outside view, the Time Crash appeared as a giant, black energy dome erupting from the center of the time research institution.</quote> Now, who wants to re-explain this so it's easier to understand? LMAO </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
NoxObscuras 02/10/22 3:33:14 PM #14:	Honestly, it's been so long since I did a playthrough of Chrono Cross (my friend borrowed, then lost, my copy), that I really only vaguely remember the story. I know that I always go the route that gets me Glenn and that the final boss music is fire. But that's about it. I never hated it like others did though, because I played Cross before I played Trigger lol. --- PSN - NoxObscuras Z490 \| i9-10900K \| EVGA 3080 FTW3 Ultra \| 32GB DDR4 3600 \| 4TB SSD <cite>NoxObscuras posted [p:962536825] in Reminder: ... [t:79893293]...</cite> <quote>Honestly, it's been so long since I did a playthrough of Chrono Cross (my friend borrowed, then lost, my copy), that I really only vaguely remember the story. I know that I always go the route that gets me Glenn and that the final boss music is fire. But that's about it. I never hated it like others did though, because I played Cross before I played Trigger lol. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
CapnMuffin 02/10/22 3:46:42 PM #15:	Cool, a piece of Lavos. Lets study it. This is advancing our time tech! Oh shit, its still connected to the source. Lavos: Time to change history. Get fucked. FATE: OK guys dont panic, we have to definitely try to not cause any time paradoxes! At least I still have access to that Lavos piece Lil Serge: Oopsy doop. <cite>CapnMuffin posted [p:962537220] in Reminder: ... [t:79893293]...</cite> <quote> Cool, a piece of Lavos. Lets study it.This is advancing our time tech!Oh shit, its still connected to the source.Lavos: Time to change history. Get fucked.FATE: OK guys dont panic, we have to definitely try to not cause any time paradoxes! At least I still have access to that Lavos pieceLil Serge: Oopsy doop.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Cocytus 02/10/22 3:47:39 PM #16:	No one cares. It's a cool game. <cite>Cocytus posted [p:962537252] in Reminder: ... [t:79893293]...</cite> <quote>No one cares. It's a cool game. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Veggeta_MAX 02/10/22 3:48:56 PM #17:	Cocytus posted... No one cares. It's a cool game. Lots of people cares LMAO --- I'm Veggeta X's alt <cite>Veggeta_MAX posted [p:962537293] in Reminder: ... [t:79893293]...</cite> <quote>Cocytus posted... </cite> <quote>No one cares. It's a cool game.</quote>Lots of people cares LMAO </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DeadBankerDream 02/10/22 3:49:02 PM #18:	I don't really give a shit if the story is good or bad, but two or so years ago I watched part of a let's play of it, and I don't think I could do it. The combat looks so boring and overly complicated and time consuming. I think I would hate playing it. --- "That thick shaft that causes women to shudder!" <cite>DeadBankerDream posted [p:962537302] in Reminder: ... [t:79893293]...</cite> <quote>I don't really give a shit if the story is good or bad, but two or so years ago I watched part of a let's play of it, and I don't think I could do it. The combat looks so boring and overly complicated and time consuming. I think I would hate playing it. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
AldousIsDead 02/10/22 3:49:48 PM #19:	masterpug53 posted... While it almost trips at the finish line in this regard, FF 9 managed to keep at least a toe on the ground with its overall plot. I don't disagree with this sentiment. --- In simplicity, utility. Through utility, simplicity. <cite>AldousIsDead posted [p:962537330] in Reminder: ... [t:79893293]...</cite> <quote>masterpug53 posted... </cite> <quote>While it almost trips at the finish line in this regard, FF 9 managed to keep at least a toe on the ground with its overall plot.</quote>I don't disagree with this sentiment. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Veggeta_MAX 02/10/22 3:50:57 PM #20:	DeadBankerDream posted... The combat looks so boring and overly complicated and time consuming. I think I would hate playing it. Combat is quite easy. Equip spells. In battle you build up the ability to use those spells with normal attacks. Use spells to win battle if the auto attacks didn't already. Also they will add a speed up feature that will make the game go so much faster. If you've played any of SE's recent re-released game then you'll know what I mean. --- I'm Veggeta X's alt <cite>Veggeta_MAX posted [p:962537354] in Reminder: ... [t:79893293]...</cite> <quote>DeadBankerDream posted... </cite> <quote>The combat looks so boring and overly complicated and time consuming. I think I would hate playing it.</quote>Combat is quite easy. Equip spells. In battle you build up the ability to use those spells with normal attacks. Use spells to win battle if the auto attacks didn't already. Also they will add a speed up feature that will make the game go so much faster. If you've played any of SE's recent re-released game then you'll know what I mean. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
jemoore9 02/10/22 3:51:54 PM #21:	Sounds like fun. Im excited to give it a go and find out if I like the story myself. <cite>jemoore9 posted [p:962537376] in Reminder: ... [t:79893293]...</cite> <quote>Sounds like fun. Im excited to give it a go and find out if I like the story myself. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Tyranthraxus 02/10/22 3:53:40 PM #22:	AldousIsDead posted... Name me a psx era jrpg who's story didn't jump up it's own ass. Wild arms Also Breath of Fire 3 --- It says right here in Matthew 16:4 "Jesus doth not need a giant Mecha." https://i.imgur.com/dQgC4kv.jpg <cite>Tyranthraxus posted [p:962537416] in Reminder: ... [t:79893293]...</cite> <quote>AldousIsDead posted... </cite> <quote>Name me a psx era jrpg who's story didn't jump up it's own ass.</quote> Wild arms Also Breath of Fire 3 </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Veggeta_MAX 02/10/22 3:54:45 PM #23:	Also having a huge cast did nothing for this game. It's not like Suikoden where having a huge cast works. --- I'm Veggeta X's alt <cite>Veggeta_MAX posted [p:962537451] in Reminder: ... [t:79893293]...</cite> <quote>Also having a huge cast did nothing for this game. It's not like Suikoden where having a huge cast works. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Alteres 02/10/22 4:08:13 PM #24:	Tyranthraxus posted... Wild arms Also Breath of Fire 3 I dunno, ancient space god was a little weird but I liked it. --- ........the ghost in the machine... IGN: Fox, FC: 5344-2646-0982 <cite>Alteres posted [p:962537854] in Reminder: ... [t:79893293]...</cite> <quote>Tyranthraxus posted... </cite> <quote>Wild arms Also Breath of Fire 3</quote>I dunno, ancient space god was a little weird but I liked it. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Tyranthraxus 02/10/22 4:12:35 PM #25:	Alteres posted... I dunno, ancient space god was a little weird but I liked it. Ancient space god isn't really jumping up it's own ass though. It's just a place that the average commoner misunderstood to be heaven. --- It says right here in Matthew 16:4 "Jesus doth not need a giant Mecha." https://i.imgur.com/dQgC4kv.jpg <cite>Tyranthraxus posted [p:962537999] in Reminder: ... [t:79893293]...</cite> <quote>Alteres posted... </cite> <quote>I dunno, ancient space god was a little weird but I liked it.</quote> Ancient space god isn't really jumping up it's own ass though. It's just a place that the average commoner misunderstood to be heaven. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Veggeta_MAX 02/10/22 4:14:23 PM #26:	And let's not forget some of the insane theories fans concocted such as Serge is actually Magus LMAO. --- I'm Veggeta X's alt <cite>Veggeta_MAX posted [p:962538051] in Reminder: ... [t:79893293]...</cite> <quote>And let's not forget some of the insane theories fans concocted such as Serge is actually Magus LMAO. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
jemoore9 02/10/22 4:16:02 PM #27:	Veggeta_MAX posted... Also having a huge cast did nothing for this game. It's not like Suikoden where having a huge cast works. Thank you for reminding me that Eiyuden is coming next year. I cant wait for that. <cite>jemoore9 posted [p:962538095] in Reminder: ... [t:79893293]...</cite> <quote>Veggeta_MAX posted... </cite> <quote>Also having a huge cast did nothing for this game. It's not like Suikoden where having a huge cast works.</quote> Thank you for reminding me that Eiyuden is coming next year. I cant wait for that. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Yuuko-Chan 02/10/22 4:19:45 PM #28:	Still my hypothesis that CC wasnt supposed to be related to CT at all, as Radical Dreamers was not related to CT at all. However one of the higher ups at SquareSoft marine didnt have confidence in CC unless it was attached to CT which lead to asinine connections instead of reasonable changes. --- Mac Book Pro 16 - 6-Core i7-9750H @ 2.60GHz - 32gb DDR4 2667 MHz - Radeon Pro 5500M 8gb - 2TB Apple SSD Now Playing: Metroid Dread, Tales of Arise, Dead By Daylight <cite>Yuuko-Chan posted [p:962538206] in Reminder: ... [t:79893293]...</cite> <quote>Still my hypothesis that CC wasnt supposed to be related to CT at all, as Radical Dreamers was not related to CT at all. However one of the higher ups at SquareSoft marine didnt have confidence in CC unless it was attached to CT which lead to asinine connections instead of reasonable changes. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
masterpug53 02/10/22 4:24:58 PM #29:	Veggeta_MAX posted... Also having a huge cast did nothing for this game. It's not like Suikoden where having a huge cast works. It didn't seriously detract from it either, unless you're of a mind to nitpick. Filter out all of the recruitables that have zero relevance to the plot and you're still left with the primary cast of 4-7 characters and about a dozen noteworthy supporting characters that any comparable JRPG has. --- Simple questions deserve long-winded answers that no one will bother to read. https://imgur.com/eW67nT8 - Artwork by Wii_Shaker <cite>masterpug53 posted [p:962538353] in Reminder: ... [t:79893293]...</cite> <quote>Veggeta_MAX posted... </cite> <quote>Also having a huge cast did nothing for this game. It's not like Suikoden where having a huge cast works.</quote> It didn't seriously detract from it either, unless you're of a mind to nitpick. Filter out all of the recruitables that have zero relevance to the plot and you're still left with the primary cast of 4-7 characters and about a dozen noteworthy supporting characters that any comparable JRPG has. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Punished_Blinx 02/10/22 4:33:02 PM #30:	masterpug53 posted... It didn't seriously detract from it either, unless you're of a mind to nitpick. Filter out all of the recruitables that have zero relevance to the plot and you're still left with the primary cast of 4-7 characters and about a dozen noteworthy supporting characters that any comparable JRPG has. I think it's weird when you have some characters who you think will be important but just aren't. It has been years since I've played it but I remember thinking this about Leena. I guess you just have to have the right mindset about it. But it is a big shift from Chrono Trigger where every recruitable character felt important. --- A Fallen Mascot <cite>Punished_Blinx posted [p:962538586] in Reminder: ... [t:79893293]...</cite> <quote>masterpug53 posted... </cite> <quote>It didn't seriously detract from it either, unless you're of a mind to nitpick. Filter out all of the recruitables that have zero relevance to the plot and you're still left with the primary cast of 4-7 characters and about a dozen noteworthy supporting characters that any comparable JRPG has.</quote> I think it's weird when you have some characters who you think will be important but just aren't. It has been years since I've played it but I remember thinking this about Leena. I guess you just have to have the right mindset about it. But it is a big shift from Chrono Trigger where every recruitable character felt important. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
_MorningStar 02/10/22 4:36:05 PM #31:	Tyranthraxus posted... Breath of Fire 3 Game absolutely does not get enough praise. --- http://i.imgur.com/UM1VO2V.jpg http://i.imgur.com/fd6WS3f.jpg <cite>_MorningStar posted [p:962538673] in Reminder: ... [t:79893293]...</cite> <quote>Tyranthraxus posted... </cite> <quote>Breath of Fire 3</quote>Game absolutely does not get enough praise. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Hop103 02/10/22 4:36:15 PM #32:	That's the result of old Square's insane executive meddling back in the day. --- "In the name of the future moon I shall punish you"-Chibi Moon <cite>Hop103 posted [p:962538681] in Reminder: ... [t:79893293]...</cite> <quote>That's the result of old Square's insane executive meddling back in the day.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Veggeta_MAX 02/10/22 4:37:24 PM #33:	masterpug53 posted... It didn't seriously detract from it either, unless you're of a mind to nitpick. Filter out all of the recruitables that have zero relevance to the plot and you're still left with the primary cast of 4-7 characters and about a dozen noteworthy supporting characters that any comparable JRPG has. Having a huge cast potentially detracted focus on some other characters. For example, Guile was supposed to be Magus but because the game focused on having a huge cast, there was less focus on the exploration of Guile. Also, a great part of CT's charm was character development and CC blew it hard on bringing back this charm and you can say having a huge cast fucked it up. --- I'm Veggeta X's alt <cite>Veggeta_MAX posted [p:962538714] in Reminder: ... [t:79893293]...</cite> <quote>masterpug53 posted... </cite> <quote>It didn't seriously detract from it either, unless you're of a mind to nitpick. Filter out all of the recruitables that have zero relevance to the plot and you're still left with the primary cast of 4-7 characters and about a dozen noteworthy supporting characters that any comparable JRPG has.</quote>Having a huge cast potentially detracted focus on some other characters. For example, Guile was supposed to be Magus but because the game focused on having a huge cast, there was less focus on the exploration of Guile. Also, a great part of CT's charm was character development and CC blew it hard on bringing back this charm and you can say having a huge cast fucked it up. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Jiek_Fafn 02/10/22 4:40:08 PM #34:	CapnMuffin posted... * Cool, a piece of Lavos. Lets study it. * This is advancing our time tech! * Oh shit, its still connected to the source. * Lavos: Time to change history. Get fucked. * FATE: OK guys dont panic, we have to definitely try to not cause any time paradoxes! At least I still have access to that Lavos piece * Lil Serge: Oopsy doop. Also, the reason Serge even had access is that the power went out from a bad storm. You have time travel future tech and it's that poorly protected from a storm? Also, it's a storm that was traversed by a shitty boat. So how awful could it have been. Is Chronopolis using Texas power grid technology? Also, he becomes the "arbiter"...which is never explained beyond that. Shit is sloppy af. --- I don't believe in belts. There should be no ranking system for toughness. <cite>Jiek_Fafn posted [p:962538800] in Reminder: ... [t:79893293]...</cite> <quote>CapnMuffin posted... </cite> <quote>* Cool, a piece of Lavos. Lets study it. * This is advancing our time tech! * Oh shit, its still connected to the source. * Lavos: Time to change history. Get fucked. * FATE: OK guys dont panic, we have to definitely try to not cause any time paradoxes! At least I still have access to that Lavos piece * Lil Serge: Oopsy doop.</quote>Also, the reason Serge even had access is that the power went out from a bad storm. You have time travel future tech and it's that poorly protected from a storm? Also, it's a storm that was traversed by a shitty boat. So how awful could it have been. Is Chronopolis using Texas power grid technology? Also, he becomes the "arbiter"...which is never explained beyond that. Shit is sloppy af. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Punished_Blinx 02/10/22 4:43:07 PM #35:	I think there is a bit of a weird charm to both Chrono Cross and Final Fantasy VIII where things just rapidly change and happen with barely any rhyme or reason. The story is nonsense, most characters barely matter outside of a couple of scenes but you're just along for the ride. It's like several plots from different games combined into a 'sort of coherent but not really' mess. Games that messy, varied and ambitious just don't really exist anymore. --- A Fallen Mascot <cite>Punished_Blinx posted [p:962538887] in Reminder: ... [t:79893293]...</cite> <quote>I think there is a bit of a weird charm to both Chrono Cross and Final Fantasy VIII where things just rapidly change and happen with barely any rhyme or reason. The story is nonsense, most characters barely matter outside of a couple of scenes but you're just along for the ride. It's like several plots from different games combined into a 'sort of coherent but not really' mess. Games that messy, varied and ambitious just don't really exist anymore. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Veggeta_MAX 02/10/22 5:20:35 PM #36:	TBF, Square was going through this phase were they think a crazy shitstorm of a plot = deep and meaningful so it'll sell. FF8 and Xenogears also had dumb ass plots. --- I'm Veggeta X's alt <cite>Veggeta_MAX posted [p:962539978] in Reminder: ... [t:79893293]...</cite> <quote>TBF, Square was going through this phase were they think a crazy shitstorm of a plot = deep and meaningful so it'll sell. FF8 and Xenogears also had dumb ass plots. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Irony 02/10/22 5:21:09 PM #37:	FF8 has the least dumbass one of the 3 --- I am Mogar, God of Irony and The Devourer of Topics. <cite>Irony posted [p:962540000] in Reminder: ... [t:79893293]...</cite> <quote>FF8 has the least dumbass one of the 3 </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
VigorouslySwish 02/10/22 5:21:34 PM #38:	Its gonna sell like hot cakes, everyone will love it, a handful of people like tc will continue posting about it bitterly in a dark corner while everyone else has fun --- i'm just some guy yellin' about apple sauce <cite>VigorouslySwish posted [p:962540017] in Reminder: ... [t:79893293]...</cite> <quote>Its gonna sell like hot cakes, everyone will love it, a handful of people like tc will continue posting about it bitterly in a dark corner while everyone else has fun </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Veggeta_MAX 02/10/22 5:22:45 PM #39:	When you can't attack the argument you attack the person. --- I'm Veggeta X's alt <cite>Veggeta_MAX posted [p:962540063] in Reminder: ... [t:79893293]...</cite> <quote>When you can't attack the argument you attack the person. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Guerrilla Soldier 02/10/22 5:36:10 PM #40:	chrono cross is really just an elaborate visualizer for an incredible soundtrack --- Disclaimer: There's a good chance the above post could be sarcasm. Die-hard Oakland A's fan --- Keep the A's in Oakland! <cite>Guerrilla Soldier posted [p:962540480] in Reminder: ... [t:79893293]...</cite> <quote>chrono cross is really just an elaborate visualizer for an incredible soundtrack </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
PowerOats 02/10/22 5:37:43 PM #41:	I wanna play it, but I wanna play trigger 1st <cite>PowerOats posted [p:962540533] in Reminder: ... [t:79893293]...</cite> <quote>I wanna play it, but I wanna play trigger 1st</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
yusiko 02/10/22 5:51:45 PM #42:	I didn't like kid So I find it funny that to recruit lenna and Glenn who are genuinely agreed to be top tier characters. You need to treat kid like dirt People always bring up her ability to steal in her favor but the only thing really worth stealing are the elemental armors from the elemental dragon bosses which is a segment kid isn't playable in --- yusketeer <cite>yusiko posted [p:962540991] in Reminder: ... [t:79893293]...</cite> <quote>I didn't like kid So I find it funny that to recruit lenna and Glenn who are genuinely agreed to be top tier characters. You need to treat kid like dirt People always bring up her ability to steal in her favor but the only thing really worth stealing are the elemental armors from the elemental dragon bosses which is a segment kid isn't playable in </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Veggeta_MAX 02/10/22 9:04:07 PM #43:	Bump --- I'm Veggeta X's alt <cite>Veggeta_MAX posted [p:962546125] in Reminder: ... [t:79893293]...</cite> <quote>Bump </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
jumi 02/10/22 9:26:34 PM #44:	It's been a LONG time since I played it. Can someone remind me why Serge's dad is a cat and why he takes over Serge's body? --- XBL Gamertag: Rob Thorsman Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/robertvsilvers <cite>jumi posted [p:962546660] in Reminder: ... [t:79893293]...</cite> <quote>It's been a LONG time since I played it. Can someone remind me why Serge's dad is a cat and why he takes over Serge's body? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Irony 02/10/22 9:28:08 PM #45:	jumi posted... It's been a LONG time since I played it. Can someone remind me why Serge's dad is a cat and why he takes over Serge's body? Yes --- I am Mogar, God of Irony and The Devourer of Topics. <cite>Irony posted [p:962546695] in Reminder: ... [t:79893293]...</cite> <quote>jumi posted... </cite> <quote>It's been a LONG time since I played it. Can someone remind me why Serge's dad is a cat and why he takes over Serge's body?</quote>Yes </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
apolloooo 02/10/22 9:37:41 PM #46:	AldousIsDead posted... Name me a psx era jrpg who's story didn't jump up it's own ass. Ff 9 --- http://i.imgtc.com/iJyp6bF.png http://i.imgtc.com/ZBw36Qh.png Thanks for the peeps that made the pics <3 if i make typos it means i am on phone <cite>apolloooo posted [p:962546905] in Reminder: ... [t:79893293]...</cite> <quote>AldousIsDead posted... </cite> <quote>Name me a psx era jrpg who's story didn't jump up it's own ass.</quote>Ff 9 </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Starks 02/10/22 9:46:50 PM #47:	Veggeta_MAX posted... Also having a huge cast did nothing for this game. It's not like Suikoden where having a huge cast works. Thank you. My god. --- Paid for by StarksPAC, a registered 501(c)(4) <cite>Starks posted [p:962547102] in Reminder: ... [t:79893293]...</cite> <quote>Veggeta_MAX posted... </cite> <quote>Also having a huge cast did nothing for this game. It's not like Suikoden where having a huge cast works.</quote>Thank you. My god. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
CapnMuffin 02/10/22 10:09:01 PM #48:	jumi posted... It's been a LONG time since I played it. Can someone remind me why Serge's dad is a cat and why he takes over Serge's body? Took on a visage to evoke Serges fear of when he was attacked by a wild cat. Needed Serges body to access the Frozen Flame because Robo transferred arbiter status to Serge. <cite>CapnMuffin posted [p:962547631] in Reminder: ... [t:79893293]...</cite> <quote>jumi posted... </cite> <quote>It's been a LONG time since I played it. Can someone remind me why Serge's dad is a cat and why he takes over Serge's body?</quote>Took on a visage to evoke Serges fear of when he was attacked by a wild cat. Needed Serges body to access the Frozen Flame because Robo transferred arbiter status to Serge. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Veggeta_MAX 02/11/22 9:28:09 AM #49:	jumi posted... It's been a LONG time since I played it. Can someone remind me why Serge's dad is a cat and why he takes over Serge's body? Wazuki, Serge's dad, accidentally took Serge to Chronopolis to heal Serge from an attack from a demon leopard. FATE, the mother brain controller of Chronopolis, brainwashed Wazuki and turned him into Serge's worst fear, a leopard while they were trying to heal Serge. Robo was also there as a computer program. When Serge got healed at Chronopolis, Robo made Serge the master key controller of Chronopolis mainly to keep FATE from having control. It was mainly the control over the usage of an object called the Frozen Flame. FATE then sent Lynx to use the Dragon Tear to switch bodies with Serge so Lynx can use Serge's body to give Chronopolis control back to FATE. --- I'm Veggeta X's alt <cite>Veggeta_MAX posted [p:962557104] in Reminder: ... [t:79893293]...</cite> <quote>jumi posted... </cite> <quote>It's been a LONG time since I played it. Can someone remind me why Serge's dad is a cat and why he takes over Serge's body?</quote>Wazuki, Serge's dad, accidentally took Serge to Chronopolis to heal Serge from an attack from a demon leopard. FATE, the mother brain controller of Chronopolis, brainwashed Wazuki and turned him into Serge's worst fear, a leopard while they were trying to heal Serge. Robo was also there as a computer program. When Serge got healed at Chronopolis, Robo made Serge the master key controller of Chronopolis mainly to keep FATE from having control. It was mainly the control over the usage of an object called the Frozen Flame. FATE then sent Lynx to use the Dragon Tear to switch bodies with Serge so Lynx can use Serge's body to give Chronopolis control back to FATE. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Jeff AKA Snoopy 02/11/22 9:40:06 AM #50:	A few years I played it right after CT and documented my playthru. It's amazing how well it does connect to a certain version of the CT potential timelines. --- https://i.imgur.com/GWG5c3r.gif <cite>Jeff AKA Snoopy posted [p:962557341] in Reminder: ... [t:79893293]...</cite> <quote>A few years I played it right after CT and documented my playthru. It's amazing how well it does connect to a certain version of the CT potential timelines. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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