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daftpunk_mk5
02/09/22 8:24:12 AM
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I like Joe Rogan overall. I do think it's total bullshit that people got more outraged at him saying the N word before than at the anti vax propoganda. But that being said I hate Spotify and am glad they're taking so much shit for this. They're terrible for artists, they completely failed to deliver on a Hifi streaming tier (I use Tidal and have been waiting for something to switch to with google home support), and exclusivity agreements are terrible for the industry. Spotify's stance is that they don't want to silence him which as a liberterian I normally would stand by 100% except for the fact that: 1. they already have censored him by taking down 100+ episodes, and 2: they paid $100 million dollars for exclusivity. You can't play the neutral platform card when you're paying someone to make content for only you.
So overall it's a good thing this is all happening and in such a high profile case cause this'll nip platform exclusives in the bud... we could have easily headed to a reality where you need, say, spotify for rogan, iheart for freakonomics, apple podcasts for this american life, etc. Would have been a reflection of what happened with TV streaming services and what EGS was trying to do to PC games. Now platforms are gonna think twice about paying that much to a creator.

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Irony
02/09/22 8:24:42 AM
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tl;dr

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MFBKBass5
02/09/22 8:25:53 AM
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Very meh take

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SpiritSephiroth
02/09/22 8:26:21 AM
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I hope theres a place where you can get all of his episodes. Haven't listened to so many of them.

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TommyG663513
02/09/22 8:28:52 AM
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Yes Spotify does suck as a platform and this needs to be pointed out repeatedly.

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daftpunk_mk5
02/09/22 8:28:59 AM
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Irony posted...
tl;dr

Don't get mad at Rogan, get mad at Spotify

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Feline_Heart
02/09/22 8:30:43 AM
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daftpunk_mk5 posted...
Don't get mad at Rogan, get mad at Spotify
https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/6/4/5/AAeVNrAAAXG1.jpg

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UnfairRepresent
02/09/22 8:35:19 AM
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Irony posted...
tl;dr
it's not that long, just needs line breaks

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Irony
02/09/22 9:40:51 AM
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daftpunk_mk5 posted...
Don't get mad at Rogan, get mad at Spotify
Why

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monkmith
02/09/22 9:43:53 AM
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daftpunk_mk5 posted...
Don't get mad at Rogan, get mad at Spotify
no i reserve the right to be mad at the cult leader.

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eston
02/09/22 9:43:58 AM
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I thought Joe was the one who had the episodes taken down

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ZevLoveDOOM
02/09/22 9:47:23 AM
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while i do enjoy using Spotify for my daily music needs, i imagine it must suck when artists get paid peanuts for their streams while this meathead gets 100 mil.

wonder if Tidal and Apple Music also underpay their artists for their streams like that...
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BobanMarjanovic
02/09/22 9:52:47 AM
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monkmith posted...
no i reserve the right to be mad at the cult leader.
Let me guess, you also think he's a fascist, racist, and transphobe? Any other buzz words y'all have destroyed the meaning of?

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daftpunk_mk5
02/09/22 9:54:56 AM
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monkmith posted...
no i reserve the right to be mad at the cult leader.
Having a fan base makes you a "cult leader"?

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Phantom36
02/09/22 9:56:13 AM
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My take, not sure if popular or not:

I don't give a shit and I'm sick of hearing about it. I'm sure there's plenty of actual news that should be getting reported on over this.

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BobanMarjanovic
02/09/22 9:56:20 AM
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No they lose their meaning when they get used all the time to describe someone you don't like.

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TheGoldenEel
02/09/22 9:58:08 AM
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daftpunk_mk5 posted...
as a liberterian
lmfao

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daftpunk_mk5
02/09/22 10:03:15 AM
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ZevLoveDOOM posted...
while i do enjoy using Spotify for my daily music needs, i imagine it must suck when artists get paid peanuts for their streams while this meathead gets 100 mil.

wonder if Tidal and Apple Music also underpay their artists for their streams like that...

Tidal from what I understand pays artists better than the other services. A lot of artists had shares in the company at the beginning so that was a big part of the mission. When Apple released lossless at no extra charge over normal, Tidal changed up their payment structure... before it was $10 a month for MP3 quality, $20 for lossless, now $10 gets you lossless but paying $20 gives you stuff like mqa and spatial audio and gives a portion of your sub fee to your most listened to artist that month. But yeah to me the biggest selling point to Tidal is the sound quality. Tidal was early to the game with lossless (huge improvement if you have decent wired headphones or speakers) then Amazon and Apple started offering it, and Deezer and Qobuz have gotten a bigger following which were more niche services. So now Spotify is basically the odd one out without it.

I pay $15 for family plan (cut from $30) which gives 6 accounts. So a few family and friends will venmo me $36 for the year for their individual account. Absolute steal. But yeah, only issue is no google home support (you can still cast to devices but you cant say "hey google, play X")

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daftpunk_mk5
02/09/22 10:03:34 AM
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TheGoldenEel posted...
lmfao

Hello my stalker.

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BobanMarjanovic
02/09/22 10:03:40 AM
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But whenever youre in a situation where you have to say Im not racist, youve f***ed up. And Ive clearly f***ed up.

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monkmith
02/09/22 10:05:09 AM
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BobanMarjanovic posted...
Let me guess, you also think he's a fascist, racist, and transphobe? Any other buzz words y'all have destroyed the meaning of?
no, i think he's a cult leader. he doesn't believe anything his guests talk about, most cult leaders dont after all, but he absolutely encourages them to come on and rant about all that shit specifically because his cult viewers enjoy it and keep throwing money at him.

daftpunk_mk5 posted...
Having a fan base makes you a "cult leader"?
having a fan base that you actively manipulate for some form of profit does yes.

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daftpunk_mk5
02/09/22 10:06:55 AM
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Phantom36 posted...
My take, not sure if popular or not:

I don't give a shit and I'm sick of hearing about it. I'm sure there's plenty of actual news that should be getting reported on over this.

It's a big deal imo simply for the implications to the rest of the podcast industry.

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daftpunk_mk5
02/09/22 10:08:41 AM
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monkmith posted...
no, i think he's a cult leader. he doesn't believe anything his guests talk about, most cult leaders dont after all, but he absolutely encourages them to come on and rant about all that shit specifically because his cult viewers enjoy it and keep throwing money at him.

having a fan base that you actively manipulate for some form of profit does yes.

So fan base + monitizing content = cult leader. Got it. I wonder when Beyonce will start having her cult commit mass suicides or when the cult of Taylor Swift will take over a compound.

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TheGoldenEel
02/09/22 10:25:11 AM
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daftpunk_mk5 posted...
Hello my stalker.
????

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daftpunk_mk5
02/09/22 10:34:09 AM
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TheGoldenEel posted...
????

Dont be coy. I come on here maybe once every 2-3 months and without fail you come and comment something inflammatory in every topic I post. You can be open with me- if you want me to send you some used underwear or some bathwater you just have to ask.

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AltyMcAltface
02/09/22 10:40:54 AM
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daftpunk_mk5 posted...
as a liberterian
lol

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TheGoldenEel
02/09/22 10:46:00 AM
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daftpunk_mk5 posted...
Dont be coy. I come on here maybe once every 2-3 months and without fail you come and comment something inflammatory in every topic I post. You can be open with me- if you want me to send you some used underwear or some bathwater you just have to ask.
i dont recognize anything about your posting and i dont post inflammatory shit that often

maybe your posts are just consistently dumb enough to provoke a response

or, in summary

daftpunk_mk5 posted...
as a liberterian


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Buzz Killjoy
02/09/22 12:18:35 PM
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https://thehustle.co/the-economics-of-spotify/amp/

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NoMeLx22x
02/09/22 12:40:35 PM
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daftpunk_mk5 posted...
as a liberterian

Lol

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