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Xavier_On_High
01/31/22 9:22:01 AM
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Joe Rogan has pledged to try harder to offer more balanced views on his podcast, after he was criticised by Neil Young and Joni Mitchell for helping to spread Covid misinformation.

The Canadian musicians asked to have their music pulled from the streaming platform as a result.

Spotify has since said it is working to add advisory warnings to any podcast discussing Covid-19.

US broadcaster Rogan apologised to the company and vowed to do better.

In an almost 10-minute long Instagram video posted on Monday, Rogan said he would "try harder to get people with differing opinions on" on his show - which averages 11 million listeners per episode.

Much of the controversy regards two recent episodes of Rogan's podcast, which featured the cardiologist Dr Peter McCullough and immunologist/virologist Dr Robert Malone.

Both expressed views that were contrary to mainstream information provided by the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC).

Rogan denied trying to spread misinformation, saying he had "never tried to do anything with this podcast other than just talk to people". But he also admitted "absolutely I get things wrong", and backed Spotify's plan to put a disclaimer at the start of controversial episodes.

"My pledge to you is that I will do my best to try to balance out these more controversial viewpoints with other people's perspectives, so we can maybe find a better point of view," he said, adding he had "no hard feelings" towards Young or Mitchell.

"I'm not mad at Neil Young, I'm a huge Neil Young fan," he said, noting his admiration for Mitchell's music as well.

Rogan said he would "do my best to make sure I've researched these topics... and have all the pertinent facts at hand" before discussing them on his podcast, while defending the credentials of several recent guests and vaccine-sceptics.

He added that he had a problem with the term "misinformation", as new facts about Covid-19 were emerging all the time and stressed how he had also had guests on the show with more conventional ideas, including Dr Michael Osterholm, a member of President Joe Biden's Covid-19 advisory board.

"I want to thank Spotify for being so supportive during this time, and I'm very sorry that this is happening to them and that they're taking so much heat from it," he said.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-60192957

Do you forgive him? Do you believe him?

Interesting that Spotify is apparently working towards putting advisory warnings on podcasts, though obviously many people angry at Rogan would prefer de-platforming him altogether.

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creativerealms
01/31/22 9:26:15 AM
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Joe won't change anything. While Spotify lost some money and subscribers over this what Joe gives them is more then what they lost. Far more prominent people need to leave the platform before Spotify will to anything more then a warning sticker.

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monkmith
01/31/22 9:26:55 AM
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no, fuck him, he's a disingenuous asshole who pushes fake information specifically because he knows there's a large subset of the population that'll buy into it.

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AldousIsDead
01/31/22 9:27:45 AM
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Get fucked, Joe.

This is a non-apology.

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gatorsPENSbucs
01/31/22 9:28:39 AM
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Couldnt the people mad at him just not listen to him? I dont think Ive used Spotify for more than 30 seconds but do they force you to listen to stuff? That doesnt seem right.

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Lairen
01/31/22 9:30:01 AM
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I know people who didnt really know him now know him because of the spotify thing...

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RetsuZaiZen
01/31/22 9:32:22 AM
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gatorsPENSbucs posted...
Couldnt the people mad at him just not listen to him? I dont think Ive used Spotify for more than 30 seconds but do they force you to listen to stuff? That doesnt seem right.

Sure, they could not listen but that wouldn't stop Rogan from spewing more covid misinformation.

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Hairsniffer261
01/31/22 9:33:37 AM
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I switched to Apple. They are more ethical.
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masterpug53
01/31/22 9:39:53 AM
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Joe: *changes absolutely nothing*

Bellends: "Well he said he'd try harder, so whatever he's saying now must be even more truthy than before!"

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Horrorbooksguy
01/31/22 9:41:41 AM
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He has never accidentally given false information. It's deliberate.

Rogan is deliberately profiting off misinformation he knows for a fact is killing people.

If that's not a felony something is very wrong.
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trappedunderice
01/31/22 9:41:46 AM
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gatorsPENSbucs posted...
Couldnt the people mad at him just not listen to him? I dont think Ive used Spotify for more than 30 seconds but do they force you to listen to stuff? That doesnt seem right.
The thing is they don't, they already hate the guy and just blindly follow headlines.
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Horrorbooksguy
01/31/22 9:42:46 AM
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trappedunderice posted...
The thing is they don't, they already hate the guy and just blindly follow headlines.
The thing is people aren't complaining because they have to hear it, they complain because it's actively harmful whether they listen to it or not.
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PoopPotato
01/31/22 9:44:32 AM
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How many people subscribe TO Spotify to listen to Niel Young? 12?

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Antifar
01/31/22 9:44:51 AM
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Horrorbooksguy posted...
The thing is people aren't complaining because they have to hear it, they complain because it's actively harmful whether they listen to it or not.


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Dat_Cracka_Jax
01/31/22 9:46:03 AM
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I'm surprised he said as much as he did. I don't buy any of it and expect nothing to change though

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Dat_Cracka_Jax
01/31/22 9:47:26 AM
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PoopPotato posted...
How many people subscribe TO Spotify to listen to Niel Young? 12?
I don't use Spotify for podcasts, but do you have to subscribe to listen to rogan's podcast?

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Stewman_Magoo
01/31/22 9:47:46 AM
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RetsuZaiZen posted...
Sure, they could not listen but that wouldn't stop Rogan from spewing more covid misinformation.

I mean... this probably isn't going to stop him from spreading it either.

I find it hilarious he's apologizing though. Nobody at Spotify or JRE chimp HQ give a fuck about this

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Machete
01/31/22 9:50:48 AM
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monkmith posted...
no, fuck him, he's a disingenuous asshole who pushes fake information specifically because he knows there's a large subset of the population that'll buy into it.


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ROBANN_88
01/31/22 9:51:10 AM
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Xavier_On_High posted...
which featured the cardiologist Dr Peter McCullough and immunologist/virologist Dr Robert Malone.

Both expressed views that were contrary to mainstream information provided by the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC).

what kind of views are we talking here?
like straight up "Covid is a hoax" bullshit or what?

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The Popo
01/31/22 9:51:29 AM
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I will occasionally try to add some truth to go with my bullshit.

What a guy

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Horrorbooksguy
01/31/22 9:55:40 AM
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PoopPotato posted...
How many people subscribe TO Spotify to listen to Niel Young? 12?
It doesn't matter. At this point Spotify should be facing criminal charges for continuing to host him.
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UnfairRepresent
01/31/22 9:56:07 AM
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Horrorbooksguy posted...
The thing is people aren't complaining because they have to hear it, they complain because it's actively harmful whether they listen to it or not.


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bluezero
01/31/22 9:56:23 AM
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creativerealms posted...
Joe won't change anything.
Yep, topic over.

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ZevLoveDOOM
01/31/22 10:05:58 AM
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maybe he should warn his listeners that some of the covid related talk on his show is bs cause apparently, some people are so stupid that they need to be talked down to like children...
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LightHawKnight
01/31/22 10:08:52 AM
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ZevLoveDOOM posted...
maybe he should warn his listeners that some of the covid related talk on his show is bs cause apparently, some people are so stupid that they need to be talked down to like children...

Why would he ever do that? He is grifting them.

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Irony
01/31/22 10:13:26 AM
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creativerealms posted...
Joe won't change anything. While Spotify lost some money and subscribers over this what Joe gives them is more then what they lost. Far more prominent people need to leave the platform before Spotify will to anything more then a warning sticker.
4B isn't "some"

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Nasty_Nitro
01/31/22 10:19:52 AM
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I hope spotify kicks rogan to the curb and youtube does too to finally sentence him to be alex jones co host on info wars so they can just go crazy together

rogan is alex jones for people who work out

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McMarbles
01/31/22 10:20:45 AM
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Do. Or do not. There is no try.

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CyricZ
01/31/22 10:21:03 AM
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So he says he's going to balance the fake information with real information?

I fail to see how this is better.

But hey, maybe I just don't "get it" because I haven't listened to four hours of the show weekly.

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televigilante
01/31/22 10:31:28 AM
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Lairen posted...
I know people who didnt really know him now know him because of the spotify thing...

this guy vv.

monkmith posted...
no, fuck him, he's a disingenuous asshole who pushes fake information specifically because he knows there's a large subset of the population that'll buy into it.

I've been listening to Joe since before he had 300 podcasts up and got into the MMA podcasts, etc. He actually started as more of a guy that would appeal to hippies and intellectuals (the core of the left wing that actually has any potential to change the world) because he talked about psychedelics a lot and had academics on. Then he changed after he moved to Austin and got more famous...a couple years before the Spotify deal...maybe less.

He's just a guy who wants to keep his head open because we don't have all the facts. He has a sort of masculine exterior because he hunts and does UFC announcing, but most of his views are overwhelmingly left wing, at least by America's standards.


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Incitatus
01/31/22 10:32:30 AM
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Another sucker cowers in fear from the behemoth of cancel culture.
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CruelBuffalo
01/31/22 10:37:43 AM
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televigilante posted...


this guy vv.

I've been listening to Joe since before he had 300 podcasts up and got into the MMA podcasts, etc. He actually started as more of a guy that would appeal to hippies and intellectuals (the core of the left wing that actually has any potential to change the world) because he talked about psychedelics a lot and had academics on. Then he changed after he moved to Austin and got more famous...a couple years before the Spotify deal...maybe less.

He's just a guy who wants to keep his head open because we don't have all the facts. He has a sort of masculine exterior because he hunts and does UFC announcing, but most of his views are overwhelmingly left wing, at least by America's standards.



Supporting the TX Governor is left wing?
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Vicious_Dios
01/31/22 10:40:34 AM
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That was a perfect response from Rogan, tbh.

A fair compromise.

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angeleyes94
01/31/22 10:43:11 AM
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McMarbles posted...
Do. Or do not. There is no try.


But I thought that only Siths deal in absolutes?

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Stewman_Magoo
01/31/22 10:50:06 AM
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'Fat people should just die of Covid '

'Also, SHOULD fat people just die of covid? '

- 'Both sides' Rogan

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Horrorbooksguy
01/31/22 10:50:43 AM
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angeleyes94 posted...
But I thought that only Siths deal in absolutes?
That's an absolute
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Nasty_Nitro
01/31/22 10:51:10 AM
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I remeber when rogan had alex jackass jones on and he fact checked him and realized he was about to fuck up aj's entire life and just changed the subject lol. rogan is a bitch.

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monkmith
01/31/22 10:51:23 AM
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televigilante posted...
I've been listening to Joe since before he had 300 podcasts up and got into the MMA podcasts, etc. He actually started as more of a guy that would appeal to hippies and intellectuals (the core of the left wing that actually has any potential to change the world) because he talked about psychedelics a lot and had academics on. Then he changed after he moved to Austin and got more famous...a couple years before the Spotify deal...maybe less.

He's just a guy who wants to keep his head open because we don't have all the facts. He has a sort of masculine exterior because he hunts and does UFC announcing, but most of his views are overwhelmingly left wing, at least by America's standards.
horse shit. the man made himself famous by talking stupid people into eating cow testicles on TV, he's been manipulating people for over a decade. his podcast might have started out with the random shit you detailed, but it wasn't because he wanted to open minds and give voice to the unheard, its because he though he had a target audience he could manipulate.

then he saw asshats like alex jones, who turned their crazy ramblings into a money making endeavor, and decided he'd go for that much larger audience.

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Vicious_Dios
01/31/22 10:54:59 AM
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Nasty_Nitro posted...
I remeber when rogan had alex jackass jones on and he fact checked him and realized he was about to fuck up aj's entire life and just changed the subject lol. rogan is a bitch.

Every time Alex is on, you know it's going to be gold.

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Nasty_Nitro
01/31/22 10:55:04 AM
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monkmith posted...
horse shit. the man made himself famous by talking stupid people into eating cow testicles on TV, he's been manipulating people for over a decade. his podcast might have started out with the random shit you detailed, but it wasn't because he wanted to open minds and give voice to the unheard, its because he though he had a target audience he could manipulate.

then he saw asshats like alex jones, who turned their crazy ramblings into a money making endeavor, and decided he'd go for that much larger audience.

Basically

alex jones appeals to the absolute psychopaths and nazis

Rogan appeals to the "Ima super alpha cool guy" crowd

tucker appeals to the old people.

they all spit the same bars just over different beats for different crowds.

All this vaccine talk started with alex jones rogan has been trying to remix it and so has tucker.


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Dathrowed1
01/31/22 10:56:22 AM
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monkmith posted...
the man made himself famous by talking stupid people into eating cow testicles on TV
Rocky Mountain oysters are actually a popular delicacy around the world including the US

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Solid Sonic
01/31/22 10:58:37 AM
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AldousIsDead posted...
This is a non-apology.

To be fair I think most people give these. I'm cynical enough to expect no one to be TRULY sorry for anything they say.

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CoorsLight
01/31/22 11:12:11 AM
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Is this his usual excuse? It sounds exactly like what his stans say, they must get the playbook from him. "Well he just has people on, it's not his fault that crazy ones like to go on his show!!"

Yes, it is exactly his fault, and if he had any real convictions he'd not have them, or at least try to dispute their bullshit. But he doesn't because he believes in (at least some of) it himself and he likes that sweet cash.

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COVxy
01/31/22 11:14:58 AM
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I'm a little worried that this fake apology will placate the people who can make a real difference, which are the artists contributing to spotify. Hopefully not.

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ElkLordOldSpice
01/31/22 11:16:53 AM
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I like the 9 minute apology, let's see him out Bernie Sanders back on.

Oh and you kids that just read.tweets and headlines are st00pid
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ElkLordOldSpice
01/31/22 11:17:31 AM
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I'm a little worried that this fake apology will placate the people who can make a real difference, which are the artists contributing to spotify. Hopefully not.
Name some artists that are contributing to Spotify

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COVxy
01/31/22 11:19:07 AM
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ElkLordOldSpice posted...
Name some artists that are contributing to Spotify

Wut?

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