Current Events > Judge prevents at will employees from starting their new better job

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https://www.postcrescent.com/story/news/2022/01/21/what-we-know-ascension-thedacare-court-battle-over-employees/6607417001/

It was unclear whether a group of former ThedaCare employees would be allowed to start their new jobs at Ascension Northeast Wisconsin Monday after lawyers for both health systems made their first appearance in court Friday morning.
The uncertainty is the latest development in a battle over health care employees that began late Thursday and is now playing out in court. It comes as staff shortages strain health systems nationwide nearly one in five health care workers have quit their jobs since the beginning of the COVID-19 pandemic.
ThedaCare requested Thursday that an Outagamie County judge temporarily block seven of its employees who had applied for and accepted jobs at Ascension from beginning work there on Monday until the health system could find replacements for them.
The employees were part of an 11-member interventional radiology and cardiovascular team, which can perform procedures to stop bleeding in targeted areas during a traumatic injury or restore blood flow to the brain in the case of a stroke. Each of them were employed at-will, meaning they were not under an obligation to stay at ThedaCare for a certain amount of time.
Outagamie County Circuit Court Judge Mark McGinnis granted ThedaCare's request and held an initial hearing Friday morning. The case will get a longer hearing at 10 a.m. Monday.
McGinnis told lawyers for both health systems they should try to work out a temporary agreement by the end of the day Friday about the employees' status until Monday's hearing.

One of the employees, after approaching ThedaCare with the chance to match the offers they'd been given, wrote in a letter to McGinnis, that they were told "the long term expense to ThedaCare was not worth the short term cost," and no counter-offer would be made.

"Free" market at work. This wouldn't be an issue if we didn't have a completely moronic for-profit healthcare system.

Funny how for these types big government is always bad until the power is in the worker's hands, then it is good and they must flex it to trash and worker's rights.

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Seeing how the supreme court has been stacked with a certain type of judge, this could be a nightmare as they define at will is only allowed when it doesn't hurt their interests and profits.
In other words:

Funny how for these types big government is always bad until the power is in the worker's hands, then it is good and they must flex it to trash and worker's rights.

What??? What if they just don't go in to work?

Workers need to arm themselves fr, no judge should ever feel safe enough to deliver such a decision

This is fucked, I hope the workers refuse to work until this is dropped

MC_BatCommander posted...

This is fucked, I hope the workers refuse to work until this is dropped

Depending on what went down in court the Judge can jail them if they don't.

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It means the 13th amendment is unconstitutional and stricken from the record with the majority opinion written by Thomas.

WingsOfGood posted...

Depending on what went down in court the Judge can jail them if they don't.

So then they should show up to work and RUIN the workplace. Force them to fire them.

Doe posted...

So then they should show up to work and RUIN the workplace. Force them to fire them.

They're not allowed to work at either place.

IDK why this fucking lawsuit exists seems to serve no purpose except make life hard for employees who want to quit.

Tyranthraxus posted...

They're not allowed to work at either place.

IDK why this fucking lawsuit exists seems to serve no purpose except make life hard for employees who want to quit.

probably

1. corrupt judge
2. rich exploitative healthcare company
3. idea that they quitting means people die or some bs

Doe posted...

So then they should show up to work and RUIN the workplace. Force them to fire them.

You want them to ruin the place that people go to have blood flow to their brains restored after strokes? Calm the fuck down.

Tyranthraxus posted...

They're not allowed to work at either place

Then this whole thing is even fucking stupider

Tenlaar posted...

You want them to ruin the place that people go to have blood flow to their brains restored after strokes? Calm the fuck down.

That's the consequence of a for profit Healthcare system

Cant imagine the applications are flying in for their potential replacements because of this lawsuit though. Who wins here?

WingsOfGood posted...

Depending on what went down in court the Judge can jail them if they don't.

No he can't, they've broken no laws and you can't force someone to work against their will

It wouldn't surprise me if Republicans tried to pass a law making it a crime to quit your job

Turtlemayor333 posted...

It wouldn't surprise me if Republicans tried to pass a law making it a crime to quit your job

That's probably the desired solution to the great resignation

Doe posted...

What??? What if they just don't go in to work?

Workers need to arm themselves fr, no judge should ever feel safe enough to deliver such a decision

I'm not sure threatening judges with guns is the road you want to go down if you want to have a job.

CableZL posted...

I'm not sure threatening judges with guns is the road you want to go down if you want to have a job.

It's not enough for one person. Workers need class consciousness.

Completely bogus and a violation of the workers' 13th amendment rights for no better reason than protecting the fat cat execs from having to offer fair market wages.

Doe posted...

It's not enough for one person. Workers need class consciousness.

You're trying to get people to end up in class prison. They've arrested over 700 people for the capitol riot and more still are getting arrested every week. Not sure why you think that would be any different.