Current Events > As an adult with a full time job, I don't understand console wars/loyalty.

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lejonbrames
01/18/22 11:57:12 AM
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Its pretty easy to just buy a PS5 AND Xbox Series X AND Nintendo Switch so no matter what happens with mergers and acquisitions youre able to play everything all the time.
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pogo_rabid
01/18/22 11:58:00 AM
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People want to be validated and feel they made the "right" purchase, so they get into a tribal mindset.

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Jabodie
01/18/22 11:58:53 AM
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Somebody on reddit told me it would be life changing for them if CoD left PS. I can't help but wonder why.

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CyricZ
01/18/22 11:59:10 AM
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It is in fact not easy to buy a PS5 or an Xbox Series X.

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lejonbrames
01/18/22 12:00:34 PM
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I mean think about the amount of money we usually spend on games and DLC, thats a LOT of PS5s, Series Xs and Switchs worth of money.
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NatsuSama
01/18/22 12:00:57 PM
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Tribalism.

You can't even have a simple discussion with folks without them categorizing your entire beliefs off one disagreement. Who cares if you agree with them on half or more of other beliefs.

"Agree with me on everything or your part of the other team!"

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Fluttershy
01/18/22 12:04:18 PM
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as an adult who grew up when the snes and genesis wars were going on - and the n64 and psx wars - even going so far as remembering certain bunker-based forums on AOL of forever ago - who also holds a full-time job nah i get it.

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K181
01/18/22 12:06:53 PM
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The trend for the past two decades is to take everything about your life personally and to invest too much interest into your likes whereby they become a part of your character. Therefore, when something isn't available on the thing you've bought into, it's bad. And people having fun on something that you're not into is also bad. And people thinking the thing you bought into isn't good is especially bad.

It's just dumb, really, but console makers are more than happy to exploit that fanboyism to their own ends.

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lejonbrames
01/18/22 12:07:58 PM
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Dont get me wrong, as a kid when we had no money and only got new video games on Christmas and birthdays, I get it. What you got was what you got and you better like it, so you want to feel like you put your eggs in the right basket. But as soon as I was 16 and got my first job and made my own money, I was able to simply buy all 3 consoles so exclusivity just means for this game I turn on this plastic box instead of that one.
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Jiek_Fafn
01/18/22 12:08:45 PM
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CyricZ posted...
It is in fact not easy to buy a PS5 or an Xbox Series X.
This
Your premise doesn't apply to this gen, TC

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Prismsblade
01/18/22 12:10:15 PM
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It's more of a by product from the 90-early 2000s. When console wars were still fun and relavant. Now though that mind is all but gone.

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eston
01/18/22 12:10:28 PM
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As an adult I don't even know how other adults could keep up with 3 platforms. I have one because that's what I have time to play

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lejonbrames
01/18/22 12:10:48 PM
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Jiek_Fafn posted...

This
Your premise doesn't apply to this gen, TC


An extremely temporary problem due to extremely unique circumstances and has absolutely no bearing on my point. Console wars/loyalty have existed for decades and generations longer than COVID.
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Cobra1010
01/18/22 12:24:29 PM
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This is a boasting topic in disguise.

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CountDog
01/18/22 12:27:45 PM
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Once I saw this interview. I really felt like an idiot. I've never taken the idea of console wars too seriously. I've always owned everything. But to really grasp.

That we as fans are creating an illusion ourselves. And using that very illusion to extort ourselves. Using ourselves. Is insane, and this Sony guy clarifies that nicely in this interview.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=1Mm3P4Ft-y4


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CyricZ
01/18/22 12:28:02 PM
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lejonbrames posted...
An extremely temporary problem due to extremely unique circumstances and has absolutely no bearing on my point. Console wars/loyalty have existed for decades and generations longer than COVID.
If you're looking to say "it's pretty easy to afford a PS5 and Xbox" then say that.

Lord over low income people if that makes you feel better.

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Steve Nick
01/18/22 12:29:36 PM
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I bought a PS5 because the new xbox sucks.

Whatcha got to say to that

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Jiek_Fafn
01/18/22 12:30:06 PM
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lejonbrames posted...
An extremely temporary problem due to extremely unique circumstances and has absolutely no bearing on my point. Console wars/loyalty have existed for decades and generations longer than COVID.
No. It's been well over a year and it's not changing soon. Don't fill your OP with lies if you're trying to make that point.

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lejonbrames
01/18/22 12:33:43 PM
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CyricZ posted...

If you're looking to say "it's pretty easy to afford a PS5 and Xbox" then say that.

Lord over low income people if that makes you feel better.


lejonbrames posted...
I mean think about the amount of money we usually spend on games and DLC, thats a LOT of PS5s, Series Xs and Switchs worth of money.
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lejonbrames
01/18/22 12:35:02 PM
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Jiek_Fafn posted...
No. It's been well over a year and it's not changing soon. Don't fill your OP with lies if you're trying to make that point.


Im speaking on how much they cost, not how available they are. And again, one day theyll all be doorstops like all passing console generations become, so your side issue is unrelated to my point.
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MC_BatCommander
01/18/22 12:35:19 PM
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Never really understood it as a kid tbh

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Umbreon
01/18/22 12:37:40 PM
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You can buy there systems...

Or buy one system and a bunch of games for it. If you're buying three systems and can afford a bunch of games for all of them... yeah, you're in a comfortable wealth bracket. Seems a bit rude to brag about it.

That aside, I wasn't aware console wars were really a thing past high school. It made sense when you were a kid, asking your parents to buy ONE system could be difficult. Most were very unlikely to buy multiple at once, so you had to stick by your choice.

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Umbreon
01/18/22 12:40:55 PM
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GRANTED, even as a kid we weren't always so 'at war' about it.

If you had a super Nintendo and another kid across the street had a Genesis, that just meant you could come to each other's house and play games you normally couldn't play. If you both had the same system, you could borrow games the other didn't have.

Simpler times that brought people together.

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SilvosForever
01/18/22 12:41:50 PM
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It's no big deal until Tales of Vesperia only releases on 360 in North America and not PS3, and you don't own a 360.

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Guide
01/18/22 12:42:53 PM
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It is mostly from kids without money, really. Back in the day, the Sega kids had to pretend they didn't like Mario. It was a rough time.

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lejonbrames
01/18/22 12:43:14 PM
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Umbreon posted...
You can buy there systems...

Or buy one system and a bunch of games for it. If you're buying three systems and can afford a bunch of games for all of them... yeah, you're in a comfortable wealth bracket. Seems a bit rude to brag about it.


Buuuuut if they own all 3 consoles they can just buy new games when they can afford them, no differently than if they owned just one. Those bunch of games being spread across 3 consoles doesnt really matter.
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lilORANG
01/18/22 12:43:43 PM
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It's simple TC. Sony gets lit exclusives like Uncharted and God of War while Microsoft has been trying to keep Halo cool for 20 years now.

it's funny.

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lejonbrames
01/18/22 12:44:36 PM
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Guide posted...
It is mostly from kids without money, really. Back in the day, the Sega kids had to pretend they didn't like Mario. It was a rough time.


Yeah like I said if youre a kid with no income I get it, but if youre an adult and can easily purchase all 3 (which pretty much every gamer can based on how much they spend on games + DLC) but choose not to out of some weird loyalty, youre fucking weird.
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eston
01/18/22 12:46:55 PM
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Even from a cost perspective I don't think it makes a lot of sense to spend $500 on a console that isn't going to be my primary console when I've got a 9-year-old to clothe and feed

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Guide
01/18/22 12:48:19 PM
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lejonbrames posted...
(which pretty much every gamer can based on how much they spend on games + DLC)
ayt you lost me

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NoxObscuras
01/18/22 12:48:49 PM
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I never even knew there were console wars before Gen 6 (PS2 vs Xbox). Learn something new lol.

But yeah, I've never cared about console wars. Gen 7 I had a Xbox 360, but no PS3. Gen 8 I had a PS4, but no Xbox One. Being "loyal" to a company that doesn't even know you exist is ridiculous to me.

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MedeaLysistrata
01/18/22 12:53:33 PM
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MedeaLysistrata
01/18/22 12:58:26 PM
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Ok, I slowed my braindown:

-Library legacy and promise of backwards compatibility
-Multiplat performance
-Exclusives

If your solution is just buy all of them, then you are not consider any kind of audience and are just making an abstract claim

Some people just want to play Fortnite, other people want to play RPGs. So you show loyalty to what does your niche best because support apparently makes companies be consistent


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lolife67
01/18/22 12:58:58 PM
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As an adult with a full time job, when would you find the time to play all 3 consoles like that? Unless you're an adult with a full time job and no other semblance of a life, I guess?
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lejonbrames
01/18/22 1:13:24 PM
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lolife67 posted...
As an adult with a full time job, when would you find the time to play all 3 consoles like that? Unless you're an adult with a full time job and no other semblance of a life, I guess?


Do you think I work 100 hours a week? Im done at 3:30 every day. Also having 3 consoles doesnt increase the amount of demand needed to play video games, it just means I have access to whatever games come out that intrigue me.
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lejonbrames
01/18/22 1:15:12 PM
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MedeaLysistrata posted...
Some people just want to play Fortnite, other people want to play RPGs. So you show loyalty to what does your niche best because support apparently makes companies be consistent


This is personal preference, which is normal and fine. Its different than actively rooting against the other plastic box because its not the one you bought.
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FortuneCookie
01/18/22 1:17:32 PM
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Console Wars is one of my favorite YouTube series.

Not the CBS one, the one CBS stole the logo from.
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lolife67
01/18/22 1:19:11 PM
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lejonbrames posted...
Im done at 3:30 every day.
Do you think most adults with full time jobs get off that early? Also, do you think all full time jobs pay the same rate?
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MedeaLysistrata
01/18/22 1:20:34 PM
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lejonbrames posted...
This is personal preference, which is normal and fine. Its different than actively rooting against the other plastic box because its not the one you bought.
Yeah, that specific issue is annoying. Like when you have to dislike the thing that someone likes.

I don't really see how disliking a maladjusted behavior is "not understanding" and issue though

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lejonbrames
01/18/22 1:21:38 PM
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lolife67 posted...

Do you think most adults with full time jobs get off that early? Also, do you think all full time jobs pay the same rate?


Uh if they start at 7 like I do then yes, definitely. Im working the same 40 hours they are.

And regarding pay rates:

lejonbrames posted...
I mean think about the amount of money we usually spend on games and DLC, thats a LOT of PS5s, Series Xs and Switchs worth of money.
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lejonbrames
01/18/22 1:22:43 PM
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MedeaLysistrata posted...
I don't really see how disliking a maladjusted behavior is "not understanding" and issue though


If we agree that it IS maladjusted behavior and thats all there is to it then I guess I do understand it afterall.
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MedeaLysistrata
01/18/22 1:22:58 PM
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lejonbrames posted...
I mean think about the amount of money we usually spend on games and DLC, thats a LOT of PS5s, Series Xs and Switchs worth of money.
This has nothing to do with rooting against a plastic box

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BeyondWalls
01/18/22 1:23:46 PM
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Guide posted...
It is mostly from kids without money, really. Back in the day, the Sega kids had to pretend they didn't like Mario. It was a rough time.
Mario sucked and Super Mario World is a boring game. Nobody wants to walk around with slow ass Mario after burning up the screen as Sonic.

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MedeaLysistrata
01/18/22 1:24:20 PM
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lejonbrames posted...
If we agree that it IS maladjusted then I guess I do understand it afterall.
I mean, tribalism isn't maladjusted. Bullying someone because they don't have the console you like is

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lejonbrames
01/18/22 1:24:47 PM
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MedeaLysistrata posted...

This has nothing to do with rooting against a plastic box


Well if they can easily afford the other consoles but instead choose not to get them and hope the other consoles are worse than the one they bought, then yeah theyre fucking weird.

Seems like the answer to this topic is that im right and it is just immature manchildren who fight console wars.
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MedeaLysistrata
01/18/22 1:26:33 PM
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lejonbrames posted...
weird

immature

Huge difference

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lejonbrames
01/18/22 1:28:08 PM
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MedeaLysistrata posted...


Huge difference


I mean whichever disparaging word well agree on would work.
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