Current Events > 8 John Does in the Ghislaine Maxwell case might be made public.

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X-wingPilot
01/16/22 10:42:35 PM
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https://news.yahoo.com/ghislaine-maxwell-ends-fight-keep-132059878.html

Ghislaine Maxwell ends fight to keep the names of 8 'John Does' a secret after Virginia Giuffre demands they be made public

Ghislaine Maxwell has ended her fight to keep the names of eight "John Does' sealed, her attorney said in a letter.

The letter said that the listed "Does" has legal counsel to assert their "own respective privacy rights."

It follows efforts by Prince Andrew accuser Virginia Giuffre's legal team to get the "John Does" identified.

Ghislaine Maxwell will no longer fight to keep the names of eight "John Does" a secret.

Lawyers for Virginia Giuffre, who have accused Maxwell and Jeffrey Epstein of sex trafficking, have asked a judge to unseal material from an earlier civil lawsuit she filed against Maxwell.

The lawsuit was settled in 2017, but Giuffre has fought for years to have material from it unsealed. The "John Does" all appear to be people who have stepped into the litigation over the years and asserted privacy rights for parts of the sealed material.

In a letter Wednesday to Loretta Preska, the judge overseeing the case, Maxwell's attorney Laura Menninger said Wednesday that her client will leave it to the court to decide whether the names should be unsealed.

"Each of the listed Does has counsel who have ably asserted their own respective privacy rights," the letter, submitted by Menninger, said.

The fact that Maxwell, a longtime associate of Epstein, who was convicted of five sex-trafficking charges, is no longer opposing the unsealing does not necessarily mean that all names will be released. Preska will consider the arguments set forth by each of the anonymous "John Does," which have been made in court filings that have not all been made public.

A review of court filings from MailOnline found that six of the "John Does" have objected to unsealing court documents that would make their identities public. One of them, John Doe 17, wishes to keep their identity secret to avoid "annoyance and embarrassment," the media outlet reported.

Another, "John Doe 151," said that the disclosure of his name would lead to him being "hounded" by the media, and added that he wishes to maintain a "private life," MailOnline said.

Following Maxwell's conviction on sex-trafficking charges last month, Sigrid McCawley, one of Giuffre's attorneys in the case, said there was no longer any reason to keep the identities of the "John Does."

"Now that Maxwell's criminal trial has come and gone, there is little reason to retain protection over the vast swaths of information about Epstein and Maxwell's sex-trafficking operation that were originally filed under seal in this case," said Sigrid McCawley, a Giuffre attorney, according to a letter seen by the Independent...
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Sir_Gawain
01/16/22 10:44:21 PM
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Esrac
01/16/22 10:46:10 PM
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What are the odds she gets suicided first?
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Doom_Art
01/16/22 10:54:02 PM
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Esrac posted...
What are the odds she gets suicided first?
Well I mean Trump already had her boyfriend offed but he was actually in power then, so it might be harder for him to do that to her now.

Hard to say

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Horrorbooksguy
01/16/22 10:54:40 PM
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Esrac posted...
What are the odds she gets suicided first?
Won't matter. They already know who they are, this is about letting us know.
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Background_Guy
01/16/22 10:56:34 PM
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Esrac posted...
What are the odds she gets suicided first?
The courts already have the info, man.
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X-wingPilot
01/16/22 10:57:44 PM
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Smashingpmkns
01/16/22 10:58:05 PM
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Trump and Clinton about to Predator Epic Handshake the shit out of this.

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gamer167
01/16/22 11:00:39 PM
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Clinton, and Trump shaking in der boots right now.
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X-wingPilot
01/16/22 11:07:21 PM
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https://epstein.flights/about#where-is-donald-trump

Where is Donald Trump?

Logs unsealed in 2019 revealed that Donald Trump flew on Epstein's jet in 1997, from Palm Beach to Newark alongside Jeffrey Epstein, Mark Epstein, Ghislane Maxwell, Glen and Eva Dubin, and an unidentified passenger. The raw log is visible on page 470 of the DocumentCloud link. New logs released in December 2021 further revealed that Trump flew on Epstein's jet in 1993, 1994 and 1995.

These entries are not currently indexed on the website because they are included in records which are not yet completely digitized. This is not a political or editorial choice, we simply have not had time to add the logs from these releases yet


Trump only flew with Epstein once in 1997; and never to Epstein island. This is consistent with Trump saying he kicked Epstein out of his property in Florida for hitting on an underage daughter of a party attendee.
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Doom_Art
01/16/22 11:17:46 PM
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X-wingPilot posted...
Trump only flew with Epstein once in 1997
And several times in the years before that lol

X-wingPilot posted...
This is consistent with Trump saying he kicked Epstein out of his property in Florida for hitting on an underage daughter of a party attendee.

There's a record of them remaining good friends until the late 00s where they both tried to purchase the same property and had a falling out over it.

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Delirious_Beard
01/16/22 11:19:02 PM
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how does it feel to be this much of a failure, SMAL

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X-wingPilot
01/16/22 11:19:38 PM
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Doom_Art posted...
And several times in the years before that lol


Source?

Meanwhile, Bill Clinton flew on Epstein's private jet at least 26 times.
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Omnislasher
01/16/22 11:20:43 PM
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X-wingPilot posted...
https://epstein.flights/about#where-is-donald-trump

Where is Donald Trump?

Logs unsealed in 2019 revealed that Donald Trump flew on Epstein's jet in 1997, from Palm Beach to Newark alongside Jeffrey Epstein, Mark Epstein, Ghislane Maxwell, Glen and Eva Dubin, and an unidentified passenger. The raw log is visible on page 470 of the DocumentCloud link. New logs released in December 2021 further revealed that Trump flew on Epstein's jet in 1993, 1994 and 1995.

These entries are not currently indexed on the website because they are included in records which are not yet completely digitized. This is not a political or editorial choice, we simply have not had time to add the logs from these releases yet

Trump only flew with Epstein once in 1997; and never to Epstein island. This is consistent with Trump saying he kicked Epstein out of his property in Florida for hitting on an underage daughter of a party attendee.

Trump must've had dibs
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X-wingPilot
01/16/22 11:21:51 PM
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X-wingPilot posted...


Source?

Meanwhile, Bill Clinton flew on Epstein's private jet at least 26 times.


Never mind, I thought you said after lol. It's still consistent with their falling out after Trump learned the truth about Epstein. Meanwhile, Ghislaine Maxwell was invited to Chelsea Clinton's wedding.
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Doom_Art
01/16/22 11:25:16 PM
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X-wingPilot posted...
It's still consistent with their falling out after Trump learned the truth about Epstein
That's clearly not the case, unless he "learned the truth" after being good friends with him and partying with him for over 2 decades lol

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X-wingPilot
01/16/22 11:26:06 PM
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X-wingPilot posted...
Meanwhile, Bill Clinton flew on Epstein's private jet at least 26 times.


X-wingPilot posted...
Meanwhile, Ghislaine Maxwell was invited to Chelsea Clinton's wedding.
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Doom_Art
01/16/22 11:27:13 PM
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iunno why you assume i give a fuck about the clintons lol

fuck em

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Frolex
01/16/22 11:42:45 PM
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Doom_Art posted...
iunno why you assume i give a fuck about the clintons lol

fuck em

it's the only way the trump cultists can justify their worship of a frequent flier of Epstein's child abuse airlines with their "Save the children" narrative

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X-wingPilot
01/16/22 11:43:44 PM
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Doom_Art posted...
iunno why you assume i give a fuck about the clintons lol


So you're okay with locking up the Clintons?
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Doom_Art
01/16/22 11:49:34 PM
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X-wingPilot posted...
So you're okay with locking up the Clintons?
i mean bill sure why not

Frolex posted...
it's the only way the trump cultists can justify their worship of a frequent flier of Epstein's child abuse airlines with their "Save the children" narrative

seriously they'd be better served just discarding trump altogether rn

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X-wingPilot
01/16/22 11:51:04 PM
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Doom_Art posted...
i mean bill sure why not


And people say bipartisanship is dead.
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Doom_Art
01/16/22 11:52:32 PM
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i mean i dislike people who take advantage of kids

i don't defend the ones i align with politically, tc lol

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BigSLM1993
01/16/22 11:54:02 PM
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Doom_Art posted...
i mean i dislike people who take advantage of kids

i don't defend the ones i align with politically, tc lol
The fact they thought they were gonna pull a "gotcha" on it is just embarrassing
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Doom_Art
01/16/22 11:56:16 PM
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BigSLM1993 posted...
The fact they thought they were gonna pull a "gotcha" on it is just embarrassing
im like 90% sure OP is SMAL so this all kinda tracks lol

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Background_Guy
01/17/22 12:20:39 AM
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Oh no we Democrats might have to give up Bill Clinton.

What would we do without Bill Clinton? He's so important to the modern Democratic Party. If we imprisoned Bill Clinton there would be so many negative consequences for American liberalism like
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muchdran
01/17/22 12:23:32 AM
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@Doom_Art with damage control, cant wait tell the truth comes out.
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Heineken14
01/17/22 12:35:07 AM
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X-wingPilot posted...


So you're okay with locking up the Clintons?


Lol, why the fuck would anyone be opposed to that if they have anything to do with it.

Also amusing you people always have to toss Hillary in there too, for good measure.

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Doom_Art
01/17/22 7:15:16 AM
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muchdran posted...
@Doom_Art with damage control, cant wait tell the truth comes out.
what are you talking about @muchdran

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AEW
01/17/22 7:19:42 AM
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Esrac posted...
What are the odds she gets suicided first?

Doesnt matter. The names are already known. This is just here not fighting them being released. If she died then theyd be released anyway.
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X-wingPilot
01/17/22 5:29:34 PM
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Bump
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Lordgold666
01/17/22 5:30:52 PM
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Still wondering why when she didnt drop names originally the whole world didnt start rioting and burning down best buys

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Kami_no_Kami
01/17/22 5:53:18 PM
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X-wing acting like we have a problem with Bill Clinton going to prison. Hes almost certainly a rapist, just like Trump. Adding child molester to the mix wont change that he should be in prison.

That said, 8 is far too low. Most likely no one youd know off-hand is going to prison. Probably the least wealthy 8 of all of Epsteins customers.
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hockeybub89
01/17/22 5:59:03 PM
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Kami_no_Kami posted...
X-wing acting like we have a problem with Bill Clinton going to prison. Hes almost certainly a rapist, just like Trump. Adding child molester to the mix wont change that he should be in prison.

That said, 8 is far too low. Most likely no one youd know off-hand is going to prison. Probably the least wealthy 8 of all of Epsteins customers.
Republicans wish so hard that "the left" had ride-or-die loyalty to Democrat politicians like they do to Trump and the like.

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Heineken14
01/17/22 7:41:00 PM
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hockeybub89 posted...

Republicans wish so hard that "the left" had ride-or-die loyalty to Democrat politicians like they do to Trump and the like.


Yep. It's why every single conversation about Donnie's connections to Epstein and his countless accusations of sexual abuse even regarding younger women is met with ".....yeah, but what about the Clintons!" from right wingers while any time those obvious deflections are brought up they are met with "if they're involve, fuck 'em!" by the left.

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owally
01/17/22 7:43:29 PM
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So how many years you think she will get after naming people, im guessing 5-10

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Heineken14
01/17/22 7:44:28 PM
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owally posted...
So how many years you think she will get after naming people, im guessing 5-10


Nah, gotta bump it up higher then that. Cover your ass for when she isn't "suicided" and you don't have to make excuses on why They let her live.

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Collat
01/17/22 7:46:11 PM
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Kami_no_Kami posted...
X-wing acting like we have a problem with Bill Clinton going to prison. Hes almost certainly a rapist, just like Trump. Adding child molester to the mix wont change that he should be in prison.

Trump Supporters: "B-but if Trump goes away for this, then there's a good chance the Clintons could end up in jail too! Checkmate Liberal."

Everyone else: "Good."
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Rathinor
01/17/22 7:49:13 PM
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Kami_no_Kami posted...
X-wing acting like we have a problem with Bill Clinton going to prison. Hes almost certainly a rapist, just like Trump. Adding child molester to the mix wont change that he should be in prison.

That said, 8 is far too low. Most likely no one youd know off-hand is going to prison. Probably the least wealthy 8 of all of Epsteins customers.
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mybbqrules
01/17/22 7:54:54 PM
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"A review of court filings from MailOnline found that six of the "John Does" have objected to unsealing court documents that would make their identities public. One of them, John Doe 17, wishes to keep their identity secret to avoid "annoyance and embarrassment," the media outlet reported.

Another, "John Doe 151," said that the disclosure of his name would lead to him being "hounded" by the media, and added that he wishes to maintain a "private life," MailOnline said."

"Why can't you people let us fuck kids in peace!?"

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whitelytning
01/17/22 8:09:33 PM
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mybbqrules posted...
"A review of court filings from MailOnline found that six of the "John Does" have objected to unsealing court documents that would make their identities public. One of them, John Doe 17, wishes to keep their identity secret to avoid "annoyance and embarrassment," the media outlet reported.

Another, "John Doe 151," said that the disclosure of his name would lead to him being "hounded" by the media, and added that he wishes to maintain a "private life," MailOnline said."

"Why can't you people let us fuck kids in peace!?"

This is why there is more to this story than the article makes it seem. She is essentially telling a judge that she doesnt object to their disclosure anymore not that she will name them. They likely have their own objections and the judge isnt going to release them.

In sum, it is still extremely unlikely that this action alone will result in any of them being known. Its clickbait.

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hockeybub89
01/17/22 8:14:02 PM
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Heineken14 posted...
Yep. It's why every single conversation about Donnie's connections to Epstein and his countless accusations of sexual abuse even regarding younger women is met with ".....yeah, but what about the Clintons!" from right wingers while any time those obvious deflections are brought up they are met with "if they're involve, fuck 'em!" by the left.
And from my experience, their takeaway from that is "lol the libs are so triggered!"

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X-wingPilot
01/18/22 1:37:10 AM
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Heineken14
01/18/22 8:14:02 AM
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