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Rharyx211
01/01/22 5:01:01 PM
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https://twitter.com/Wario64/status/1477119032771821570

The President said this is for people who "play to contribute" as opposed to people who "play to have fun."

This of course comes right after crypto miners and blockchain processors contributed to the shortage of parts that resulted in them having to stop selling copies of FF14.

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Doe
01/01/22 5:13:15 PM
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Maybe it's because I've had some years in business school, maybe it's just because I'm not a complete moron, but I don't understand how there's actual cryptoheads on twitter and shit that get excited about this. They seem to think that if you just connect a blockchain to something then the assets HAVE to rise in value. Like blockchain is a money printer that will magically alleviate all poverty in the world.

Historically the only games that have success with digital economies (eg TF2, CSGO) are games with no termination date that receive unending upkeep from the developers. If you try to put such an economy, whether it's blockchain or traditional, in a game that's not clearly intended to be live for literally more than a decade, then it will quickly devolve into speculation of when people will move on or when the next game is released, which would cause a permanent market crash as everyone tries to get rid of their assets before there's literally nobody left that even wants to buy one at any price.

Blockchain changes nothing about the fundamentals of a digital economy as already explored in these titles; the only difference is you may be able to buy and sell them outside of the game client more easily, but once again, such solutions have already been invented by the communities of the aforementioned games.

So what's with all these NFT announcements if the conclusion that it will go nowhere can be arrived at so easily? Well it's because investors aren't always that smart. Blockchain and cryptography are somewhat complicated technologies that inevitably get distilled into "digital magic" explanations by tech communicators. So you have a technology that could be easily implemented in just about ANYTHING (regardless of actual effectiveness), that investors and the public think prints money. So why not tell investors you're experimenting with this digital magic?


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Turbam
01/01/22 5:18:13 PM
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https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/8/3/7/AANKsdAAAVsF.png

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DeadBankerDream
01/01/22 5:20:55 PM
#4:


Rharyx211 posted...
This of course comes right after crypto miners and blockchain processors contributed to the shortage of parts that resulted in them having to stop selling copies of FF14.
What?

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Dakimakura
01/01/22 5:22:14 PM
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how much 2b's ass cost?

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Strider102
01/01/22 5:25:17 PM
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Each episode of the remaining 9+ episodes of FF7Remake gonna be chopped up into mini episodes, each one you gotta buy.

RIP Final Fantasy

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Smashingpmkns
01/01/22 5:26:03 PM
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So do gamers love microtransactions now or what

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AngelicRadiance
01/01/22 5:30:08 PM
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lol SE

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Jagr_68
01/01/22 5:36:40 PM
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Notice how only the dogshit companies are starting with this nft stuff.

inb4NintendoreleasesamiiboNFTs

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SocialistGamer
01/01/22 5:37:33 PM
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If it weren't for FFXIV, I think Square would be pretty close to bankruptcy after all the flops they've had.

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HylianFox
01/01/22 5:45:44 PM
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>NFTs
>metaverse

we are witnessing the death of gaming right here
and of course it's fucking Square Enix

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ssjevot
01/01/22 6:01:12 PM
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SocialistGamer posted...
If it weren't for FFXIV, I think Square would be pretty close to bankruptcy after all the flops they've had.

Most of their revenue actually comes from mobile games.

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YookaLaylee
01/01/22 6:02:57 PM
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HylianFox posted...
>NFTs
>metaverse

we are witnessing the death of gaming right here
and of course it's fucking Square Enix

Gaming can never die because of how easy it is now for anyone to make an indie game

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KFHEWUI
01/01/22 6:06:30 PM
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SocialistGamer posted...
If it weren't for FFXIV, I think Square would be pretty close to bankruptcy after all the flops they've had.

Plus the fact that they are piggybacking off of Enix.

I realize that some people who "play to have fun" and who currently form the majority of players have voiced their reservations toward these new trends, and understandably so.

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/4/7/7/AAKYEFAACw39.jpg

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AngelicRadiance
01/01/22 6:10:56 PM
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Literally everyone plays to have fun lol

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creativerealms
01/01/22 6:11:34 PM
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Screw you square.

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Rharyx211
01/01/22 6:22:36 PM
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Strider102 posted...
Each episode of the remaining 9+ episodes of FF7Remake gonna be chopped up into mini episodes, each one you gotta buy.

RIP Final Fantasy
Yeah, isn't FF7 ironically about a big corporation harming the planet with their shitty practices?

How are they turning themselves into Shinra in real life.

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creativerealms
01/01/22 6:27:50 PM
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Rharyx211 posted...
Yeah, isn't FF7 ironically about a big corporation harming the planet with their shitty practices?

How are they turning themselves into Shinra in real life.
Now I am picturing huge Mako reactors being used to mine fake currency and create crappy digital art.

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HylianFox
01/01/22 6:33:44 PM
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AngelicRadiance posted...
Literally everyone plays to have fun lol

Pretty sure nobody plays Square Enix games for fun

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Back_Stabbath
01/01/22 6:33:57 PM
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Half Life 3 will be a NFT that only the owner can enjoy

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iPhone_7
01/01/22 6:35:54 PM
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NFTs/crypto is ruining the environment & accelerating climate change. Shame on Square Enix

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Spidey5
01/01/22 6:45:43 PM
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I'm starting to believe I'll never understand what an NFT is. I thought it was some kind of image people uploaded that for some reason has value. Now its... parts of a video game? Eh, don't bother explaining it to me. I'm okay with not knowing what this shit is.

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DarthAragorn
01/01/22 6:46:27 PM
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Spidey5 posted...
I'm starting to believe I'll never understand what an NFT is. I thought it was some kind of image people uploaded that for some reason has value. Now its... parts of a video game? Eh, don't bother explaining it to me. I'm okay with not knowing what this shit is.
It cannot be funged!

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GrandConjuraton
01/01/22 6:55:51 PM
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Am I missing something? I don't see how this should effect anyone who isn't interested in NFTs, though I still think NFTs as a concept is entirely asinine.

Seems silly to be getting upset...

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Jiek_Fafn
01/01/22 7:01:16 PM
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Spidey5 posted...
I'm starting to believe I'll never understand what an NFT is. I thought it was some kind of image people uploaded that for some reason has value. Now its... parts of a video game? Eh, don't bother explaining it to me. I'm okay with not knowing what this shit is.
Probably limited edition skins or cosmetic items of other kinds. That'd be the easiest thing to implement.

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DoomSwell
01/01/22 8:35:07 PM
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Everybody is forgetting what the T stands for. Even some sellers think an NFT is the jpeg but its not; its more like the URL of a jpeg. Its literately the reciept of the product, not the product itself. That means the server admin could change the link to a picture of furry porn and you cant do anything.

The supposed value is supposed to come from scarcity (one of a kind jpeg lol) or previous owners. Again, youre basically buying a reciept with an autograph on it; NOT the product the reciept is for.

Edit; forgot to say T stands for token, as in "access" too something; like an arcade game.

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Cobra1010
01/01/22 8:52:00 PM
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Doe posted...
Maybe it's because I've had some years in business school, maybe it's just because I'm not a complete moron, but I don't understand how there's actual cryptoheads on twitter and shit that get excited about this. They seem to think that if you just connect a blockchain to something then the assets HAVE to rise in value. Like blockchain is a money printer that will magically alleviate all poverty in the world.

Historically the only games that have success with digital economies (eg TF2, CSGO) are games with no termination date that receive unending upkeep from the developers. If you try to put such an economy, whether it's blockchain or traditional, in a game that's not clearly intended to be live for literally more than a decade, then it will quickly devolve into speculation of when people will move on or when the next game is released, which would cause a permanent market crash as everyone tries to get rid of their assets before there's literally nobody left that even wants to buy one at any price.

Blockchain changes nothing about the fundamentals of a digital economy as already explored in these titles; the only difference is you may be able to buy and sell them outside of the game client more easily, but once again, such solutions have already been invented by the communities of the aforementioned games.

So what's with all these NFT announcements if the conclusion that it will go nowhere can be arrived at so easily? Well it's because investors aren't always that smart. Blockchain and cryptography are somewhat complicated technologies that inevitably get distilled into "digital magic" explanations by tech communicators. So you have a technology that could be easily implemented in just about ANYTHING (regardless of actual effectiveness), that investors and the public think prints money. So why not tell investors you're experimenting with this digital magic?

I like this guy. Gamefaqs has too many bullshitters and low effort troll. Its a nice change to have a proper post to read and actually learn something.

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DarthAragorn
01/01/22 8:57:13 PM
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DoomSwell posted...
Everybody is forgetting what the T stands for. Even some sellers think an NFT is the jpeg but its not; its more like the URL of a jpeg. Its literately the reciept of the product, not the product itself. That means the server admin could change the link to a picture of furry porn and you cant do anything.

The supposed value is supposed to come from scarcity (one of a kind jpeg lol) or previous owners. Again, youre basically buying a reciept with an autograph on it; NOT the product the reciept is for.

Edit; forgot to say T stands for token, as in "access" too something; like an arcade game.
So wait

Can it be funged or not

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Ricemills
01/04/22 12:02:08 AM
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nice, they will go alobg nicely with Square's movie division.

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Kami_no_Kami
01/04/22 12:17:23 AM
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When is little green panda on a skateboard being added to FFXIV?
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Trumble
01/04/22 12:21:00 AM
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Spidey5 posted...
I'm starting to believe I'll never understand what an NFT is. I thought it was some kind of image people uploaded that for some reason has value. Now its... parts of a video game? Eh, don't bother explaining it to me. I'm okay with not knowing what this shit is.

Take away all the fluff, and an NFT is essentially a crypto token (like a cryptocurrency, but it exists on another coin's blockchain instead of having its own) that can't be divided into partial units, and usually exists in very limited quantity, possibly even only one of a kind.

Declaring that a particular NFT represents ownership of a piece of art is one way in which they can be used. Posession of the NFT unlocking gear in a game is another. But strip away what people see it as / what software does with it, and it's ultimately a (usually) low-supply, indivisible, crypto token.

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