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spikethedevil
12/30/21 4:14:30 PM
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ThyCorndog posted...
"Oi bugger off ya tosser. Had me nosh sorted, till some wanker nicked it. S'all in shambles now, innit." -"""english"""

Someone teach them now to speak their supposed language, please

No one here speaks like that. Please stop getting your ideas of England from Americans attempting English accents.

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Funkydog
12/30/21 4:15:39 PM
#53:


Tom Clark posted...
I've heard Brummies pronounce it that way, tbf.
They also say Mom, so I think we need to disown them at some point.

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Criminalt
12/30/21 4:16:23 PM
#54:


spikethedevil posted...
No one here speaks like that. Please stop getting your ideas of England from Americans attempting English accents.
I blame Guy Ritchie.

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Tom Clark
12/30/21 4:17:00 PM
#55:


Funkydog posted...
They also say Mom, so I think we need to disown them at some point.

I mean, you're not wrong.

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Alteres
12/30/21 4:22:24 PM
#56:


Brummagem, huh.

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Punished_Blinx
12/30/21 4:25:33 PM
#57:


I love the wanker insult. Need that British accent for it to work effectively though. Certain Aussie accents can pull it off but not mine.

Bus wankers!

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spikethedevil
12/30/21 4:27:56 PM
#58:


Punished_Blinx posted...
I love the wanker insult. Need that British accent for it to work effectively though. Certain Aussie accents can pull it off but not mine.

Bus wankers!

English accent* But agreed.

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Punished_Blinx
12/30/21 4:28:24 PM
#59:


spikethedevil posted...
English accent* But agreed.

Yeah good point. Scottish and Welsh accents don't pull it off.

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ModLogic
12/30/21 4:29:16 PM
#60:


lmfao @ americans and "erb"

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Punished_Blinx
12/30/21 4:30:00 PM
#61:


ModLogic posted...
lmfao @ americans and "erb"

VeHUHcle.

Dunno if all Americans say it like that or just cops.

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DrizztLink
12/30/21 4:30:17 PM
#62:


Punished_Blinx posted...
Yeah good point. Scottish and Welsh accents don't pull it off.
The Scots have "wankstain."

https://youtu.be/m86ifCAiZfk

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spikethedevil
12/30/21 4:30:50 PM
#63:


Punished_Blinx posted...
Yeah good point. Scottish and Welsh accents don't pull it off.

Dont think the Northern Irish even use it.

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Taharqa_
12/30/21 4:47:05 PM
#64:


Choco posted...
that's dumb
it's spelled tortoise
but thanks for being the only one brave enough to answer

We like to shorten stuff. Why put those extra letters in? Take that 'u' out of some of these words, no need for some of those extra syllables either lol

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Flauros
12/30/21 4:54:05 PM
#65:


British people be like "I'm bri ish"

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Ar0ge
12/30/21 4:58:00 PM
#66:


Didn't the current English accent develop more recently? Like AFTER America was colonized. I read somewhere that the English spoke very similarly to the American accent back then.
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dave_is_slick
12/30/21 4:59:18 PM
#67:


Mussurana posted...
Not our fault you can't speak English properly.
No, America actually has the correct English. It's you guys who changed.

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Mussurana
12/30/21 5:00:50 PM
#68:


dave_is_slick posted...
No, America actually has the correct English. It's you guys who changed.
Incorrect, they both changed, it's called lingual drift.

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DrizztLink
12/30/21 5:02:42 PM
#69:


Ar0ge posted...
Didn't the current English accent develop more recently? Like AFTER America was colonized. I read somewhere that the English spoke very similarly to the American accent back then.

dave_is_slick posted...
No, America actually has the correct English. It's you guys who changed.
I made the same point, it turns out to be true to a degree but far more complicated than that.

Like the interplay between the indigenous populations and their language (moose is not an English word), America's "melting pot" muddying the waters, that sort of thing.

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dave_is_slick
12/30/21 5:03:20 PM
#70:


Mussurana posted...
Incorrect, they both changed, it's called lingual drift.

No, I'm objectively correct. Our English is objectively closer to the original than yours. This isn't an obscure fact.

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spikethedevil
12/30/21 5:04:14 PM
#71:


Ar0ge posted...
Didn't the current English accent develop more recently? Like AFTER America was colonized. I read somewhere that the English spoke very similarly to the American accent back then.

England has many accents.

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Itachi157
12/30/21 5:04:30 PM
#72:


dave_is_slick posted...
No, I'm objectively correct. Our English is objectively closer to the original than yours. This isn't an obscure fact.

I heard that's indeed a myth
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Punished_Blinx
12/30/21 5:04:55 PM
#73:


Thou fools are exclaiming that they are the ones who speak ye olde English? Saddle-gooses the lot of them!

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ThyCorndog
12/30/21 5:05:01 PM
#74:


dave_is_slick posted...
No, I'm objectively correct. Our English is objectively closer to the original than yours. This isn't an obscure fact.
r/shitamericanssay

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dave_is_slick
12/30/21 5:06:16 PM
#75:


DrizztLink posted...
I made the same point, it turns out to be true to a degree but far more complicated than that.

Like the interplay between the indigenous populations and their language (moose is not an English word), America's "melting pot" muddying the waters, that sort of thing.
I believe the exaggerated shift started around Shakespear's time. I think it was the snobbish upper class who didn't want to be associated with him which led to their English. Plus, they call candy "sweets" but "candy" came BEFORE they started doing that.

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dave_is_slick
12/30/21 5:06:42 PM
#76:


ThyCorndog posted...
r/shitamericanssay
Go ahead and look it up.

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Punished_Blinx
12/30/21 5:08:30 PM
#77:


dave_is_slick posted...
I believe the exaggerated shift started around Shakespear's time. I think it was the snobbish upper class who didn't want to be associated with him which led to their English. Plus, they call candy "sweets" but "candy" came BEFORE they started doing that.

Nothing you said disputes what he said. There are terms all over the place that have remained the same or changed around the world.

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DrizztLink
12/30/21 5:11:54 PM
#78:


ThyCorndog posted...
r/shitamericanssay
It's right to a degree but not nearly to the extent presented.

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DrizztLink
12/30/21 5:14:21 PM
#79:


dave_is_slick posted...
I believe the exaggerated shift started around Shakespear's time. I think it was the snobbish upper class who didn't want to be associated with him which led to their English. Plus, they call candy "sweets" but "candy" came BEFORE they started doing that.
You got it mixed up, I think.

The "traditional" American accent is closer to the pronunciation of Shakespeare's time than the "traditional" "higher-class" accents of England that came around about the 17-1800s or so.

Regardless, it's a massive oversimplification.

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K181
12/30/21 5:16:49 PM
#80:


Who gives a fuck about "original" English? The language has shifted everywhere it's spoken, no singular place has a claim to being closer to a "truer" form of English as languages naturally change over time.

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Ryven
12/30/21 5:19:45 PM
#81:


Taharqa_ posted...
Tor-toys? LOL

That's up with there with coo-pay (coupe), aluminEEum (aluminum), labORatory (laboratory)

Who do we have to blame for this? The Plantagenet dynasty?

Also

AdVER-tiz-ment
Vitta-mins
GAH-rage


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DrizztLink
12/30/21 5:22:31 PM
#82:


K181 posted...
Who gives a fuck about "original" English? The language has shifted everywhere it's spoken, no singular place has a claim to being closer to a "truer" form of English as languages naturally change over time.
The reason it typically comes up is when people are doing Shakespeare.

Again, super simplistically put, the American accent is relatively similar to Shakespearean English.

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RenescoStCewl
12/30/21 5:27:51 PM
#83:


This just reminds me of how trump says Yosemite.

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Mussurana
12/30/21 5:29:06 PM
#84:


DrizztLink posted...
Again, super simplistically put, the American accent is relatively similar to Shakespearean English.
Not really, it does retain a few older pronunciations, but only a few.

You aren't speaking Early Modern English over there.

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DrizztLink
12/30/21 5:31:18 PM
#85:


Mussurana posted...
Not really, it does retain a few older pronunciations, but only a few.

You aren't speaking Early Modern English over there.
That's why I said "super simplistically."

The reality is way more complex than I can get into or really fully understand, just pointing out that both arguments have a level of merit but it wasn't as simple as Dave thought.

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cjsdowg
12/30/21 5:31:45 PM
#86:


Choco posted...
how do americans pronounce it

Correctly. .

https://voca.ro/1o2FzvDODP1f

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Choco
12/30/21 7:03:57 PM
#87:


cjsdowg posted...
Correctly. .

https://voca.ro/1o2FzvDODP1f
"""correctly""" it's spelled tortoise

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hockeybub89
12/30/21 7:07:42 PM
#88:


Oh, cock

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FurryPhilosifer
12/30/21 7:08:49 PM
#89:


Ryven posted...
GAH-rage

It's gah-ridge, not gah-rage.

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Flauros
12/30/21 7:08:50 PM
#90:


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Punished_Blinx
12/30/21 7:14:53 PM
#91:


FurryPhilosifer posted...
It's gah-ridge, not gah-rage.

I say something that's more like gah-raj?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JhbJnlIvfyc

Like this. I'm a fancy frenchman.

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triple_lei
12/30/21 8:09:01 PM
#92:


I was expecting to be let down but this is actually pretty funny.

And what's the deal with them saying pass-ta (pasta) instead of "pahsta" like the rest of us? Heard both Gordon Ramsay and Robert Irvine pronounce it that way.
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thronedfire2
12/30/21 8:09:23 PM
#93:


Do they pronounce it the correct way?

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FurryPhilosifer
12/30/21 8:29:06 PM
#94:


triple_lei posted...
And what's the deal with them saying pass-ta (pasta) instead of "pahsta" like the rest of us? Heard both Gordon Ramsay and Robert Irvine pronounce it that way.
Hearing creepypasta pronounced "creepypawsta" will never not disturb me.

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DarkFists
12/30/21 8:45:27 PM
#95:


Punished_Blinx posted...
VeHUHcle.

Dunno if all Americans say it like that or just cops.
What? It's generally pronounced 'VEE-hick-le' here, never heard that one...now I'm curious

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PuppetPalClem
12/30/21 8:49:16 PM
#96:


What the fuck lmao

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Punished_Blinx
12/30/21 9:46:03 PM
#97:


DarkFists posted...
What? It's generally pronounced 'VEE-hick-le' here, never heard that one...now I'm curious

Sorta like this cop
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N7r0T_7H6Ko

I've heard it a few times like this and it always makes me laugh.

Ben Stiller says it normal here so must be a regional thing.

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thronedfire2
12/30/21 9:47:05 PM
#98:


vee-ickle

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Criminalt
12/31/21 3:46:56 PM
#99:


DrizztLink posted...
Again, super simplistically put, the American accent is relatively similar to Shakespearean English.
Regional American accents during the colonial period echoed the distinctive British accents of the settlers' regions of origin: East Anglia/Massachusetts, West Country/Virginia, North Midlands/Delaware Valley, northern British borderlands/Appalachian backcountry. No single American accent, and no single British, "Shakespearean" accent even at the time.

Surely the American accent has been far more susceptible to change over the centuries, thanks to demographic changes wrought by hugely diverse inflows of migrants and greater mobility across a vast continent?

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DrizztLink
12/31/21 6:24:45 PM
#100:


Criminalt posted...
Regional American accents during the colonial period echoed the distinctive British accents of the settlers' regions of origin: East Anglia/Massachusetts, West Country/Virginia, North Midlands/Delaware Valley, northern British borderlands/Appalachian backcountry. No single American accent, and no single British, "Shakespearean" accent even at the time.

Surely the American accent has been far more susceptible to change over the centuries, thanks to demographic changes wrought by hugely diverse inflows of migrants and greater mobility across a vast continent?
For fuck's sake.

That's why it says "super simplistically."

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