Current Events > The US law system lets too many assholes go on technicaliaites.

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It shouldn't be "to the letter of the law"

We should convict people who aren't following the "spirit of the law"

Fuck em, d00d

Goes both ways.

I hate asshole criminals getting off easy too, but your "convict people who aren't following the "spirit of the law"" mentality is flawed and a incredibly dangerous way to think TC.

Number090684 posted...

I hate asshole criminals getting off easy too, but your "convict people aren't following the "spirit of the law"" mentality is flawed and a incredibly dangerous way to think TC.

Nah. If an asshole gets something bad happen to him, a decent guy who may ahve gotten put away due to a "no tolerance policy" type law wouldn't happen.

pogo_rabid posted...

Nah. If an asshole gets something bad happen to him, a decent guy who may ahve gotten put away due to a "no tolerance policy" type law wouldn't happen.

In the unholy fuck are you trying to say here?

Or billionaries who get away with tax evasion because they use tiny loopholes would get their shit pushed in by the legal system, becuase they know what they're doing, you know what they're doing, everyone knows what they're doing. Fuckers like that shouldn't be protected.

If it wasn't for China would would be jailing the most people in the world.

omega cookie posted...

In the unholy fuck are you trying to say here?

THIS IS WHAT I'M TALKIN ABOUT BRO

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/2/9/0/AAd2inAACv2i.jpg

You eating cheese right out the bag?

omega cookie posted...

You eating cheese right out the bag?

it's all i had

cjsdowg posted...

If it wasn't for China would would be jailing the most people in the world.

The United States has the largest prison population in the world, and the highest per-capita incarceration rate.

Disagree

that system is already in place, its why we have a jury of peers instead of a jury of random lawyers and judges. randoms off the street dont know the "letter of the law", and while they're instructed before they deliberate it doesn't change the fact that they're bringing their own bias and opinions.

People love to talk about how grave an injustice wrongful convictions are, but there's also a list of wrongful exoneratations that nobody seems to give af about.

lilORANG posted...

People love to talk about how grave an injustice wrongful convictions are, but there's also a list of wrongful exoneratations that nobody seems to give af about.

Because a wrongful conviction is far, far worse than a wrongful exoneration. The law should be structured so that no innocent person is ever deprived of their freedom.

pogo_rabid posted...

it's all i had

So uncivilized.

2 things:
First, it was set up that way because they felt it was better to have some people escape prosecution than to put people in jail that shouldnt be. Im ok with that.

Second, billionaires and others not paying tax isnt necessarily evasion or taking advantages of loop holes. Its not paying a tax they dont have to.

whitelytning posted...

First, it was set up that way because they felt it was better to have some people escape prosecution than to put people in jail that shouldnt be. Im ok with that.

You mean rich folk who can afford lawyers

holy shit am i hungover

This was an action movie clich of the 80s and early 90s. "The system" didn't do enough to punish the scumbags, so renegade cops had to take justice into their own hands.

It's a nice story, except it doesn't work that way in real life. When the law breaks itself to get you, it's seldom if ever for the cause of justice.

Rayman2943 posted...

You mean rich folk who can afford lawyers

No. See the 6th amendment.

FortuneCookie posted...

This was an action movie clich of the 80s and early 90s. "The system" didn't do enough to punish the scumbags, so renegade cops had to take justice into their own hands.

It's a nice story, except it doesn't work that way in real life. When the law breaks itself to get you, it's seldom if ever for the cause of justice.

It's

Just

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REVOKED

whitelytning posted...

No. See the 6th amendment.

Dude I'm sure all those inner city kids can get the same people defending them like Harvey Weinstein did.

Black guy doesn't do anything? Can't afford a lawyer? 25 years anyways.

Rayman2943 posted...

Dude I'm sure all those inner city kids can get the same people defending them like Harvey Weinstein did.

Black guy doesn't do anything? Can't afford a lawyer? 25 years anyways.

Hello, I'm your public defender, would you like the plead guilty or to plead guilty and we kick you in the dick?"

That evidentiary kerfuffle was pretty fucking blatant in the Weinstein case. Even an overworked and sleep deprived PD would have sniffed that out without trouble, so that's not really a good point for comparison.

Rayman2943 posted...

Dude I'm sure all those inner city kids can get the same people defending them like Harvey Weinstein did.

Black guy doesn't do anything? Can't afford a lawyer? 25 years anyways.

They dont get the same counsel but they do get the right to an attorney.

"I hate that the system doesn't give the verdict I expected"

whitelytning posted...

They dont get the same counsel but they do get the right to an attorney.

Rayman2943 posted...

You mean rich folk who can afford lawyers

Yes. The people who escape prosecution are rich. Poor minorities don't. Who r u kidding

Lots of good public defenders out there. The reality is PDs get more trial experience than private defense attorneys.

Rayman2943 posted...

Yes. The people who escape prosecution are rich. Poor minorities don't. Who r u kidding

You are objectively incorrect. The right to counsel is a benefit that is much better to have than not. I can acknowledge that it isnt perfect and has issues but it helps a lot of people and is clearly a positive feature of the American system.