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Cleo_II
12/21/21 12:25:24 PM
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First it was incessant comments by family and strangers about the activity level of my uterus to make a baby. Why dont you have a baby yet?? When baby?? Do you hate kids?? Now I have a baby and its Why dont you want another?? Thats so selfish! Children should have siblings

My husband of course never gets a single comment like that.

4 years of trying, several rounds of invasive and physically and mentally demanding treatments, a difficult pregnancy that made me sick for all of it still suffering sciatica and back pain to the point I have an MRI tomorrow, an emergency c section and long/painful recovery. Hormones upon hormones that fucked with my mind and body. Having to go in multiple times to get cold rods inserted in me. Over 100 painful needles in my stomach and hips. And Im selfish for not wanting to put my body through that again because Ur baybee NEedS a SibLINggg

Fuck people I swear.
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bluezero
12/21/21 12:26:57 PM
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Tell them that. Or just fuck em, it's your life.

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monkmith
12/21/21 12:28:02 PM
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they're likely people suffering with multiple kids and want others to suffer like they do.

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SweetNut_Farm
12/21/21 12:28:08 PM
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It's your decision and not anyone's else to decide. I'm sorry you've had such a hard time.

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lww99
12/21/21 12:28:55 PM
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Totally feel it. Im dreading those question this year.

think Im just gonna have to be honest and say we lost one last year, and she had to have cancer testing for a year as a result.

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emblem boy
12/21/21 12:31:59 PM
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That sucks. Hopefully they stop with that shit.

Cleo_II posted...
Now I have a baby and its Why dont you want another?? Thats so selfish! Children should have siblings


Ugh. My friend was giving me the same bullshit when I told him we only planned on having one kid.

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evilpresident
12/21/21 12:33:06 PM
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Tell them to go fuck themselves.

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JuanCarlos1
12/21/21 12:34:04 PM
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Fuck em. So many reasons today to not have so many kids. From child care costs, environmental footprint, your own ability to enjoy life less stressful. Shouldnt weight on you so much what they think. Theyre not gonna carry or take care of the baby.

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LordFarquad1312
12/21/21 12:34:16 PM
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evilpresident posted...
Tell them to go fuck themselves.


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segasaturn
12/21/21 12:35:12 PM
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Cleo_II posted...
Why dont you want another?? Thats so selfish! Children should have siblings
I guess they forgot that your child could make friends quite easily at a school.

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TheGoldenEel
12/21/21 12:38:46 PM
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Sorry to bring up politics but I think of this in relation to abortion rights

my wife had sciatic pain for the first half of her pregnancy and gestational diabetes for the second half, not to mention all the other things that come with pregnancy like nausea etc

and there are people (mostly men of course) who want to force women to go through that. Just give it up for adoption as if pregnancy is some simple thing

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Cleo_II
12/21/21 12:39:12 PM
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monkmith posted...
they're likely people suffering with multiple kids and want others to suffer like they do.
One is my mother and another is my brother. Both have had 3 kids. My mom was a SAHM and honestly neglected us a lot. My brother just had his third girl and hes beyond miserable. Theyre wonderful girls but at 3, with him as the sole earner, its so much pressure on him.

But its easy for him to tell me Im selfish. His wife is fertile and every pregnancy was a breeze for her. They have my mother and her parents at their beck and call for babysitting. They are in Canada where childcare is much less expensive. My husband and I are on our own and in SoCal. No babysitting help except our nanny that costs $20/hr

lww99 posted...
Totally feel it. Im dreading those question this year.

think Im just gonna have to be honest and say we lost one last year, and she had to have cancer testing for a year as a result.
Ugh Im sorry. I dont get why people dont mind their own fucking business. In my experience, being honest with people didnt help. It just invited more questions.

emblem boy posted...
That sucks. Hopefully they stop with that shit.

Ugh. My friend was giving me the same bullshit when I told him we only planned on having one kid.
I dont get why people care so much. Plus one kid means they get dedicated attention and all your resources. Having one kid means I can pay for private education, save to pay her college tuition, etc. I plan on giving my daughter the absolute best life possible. I always wanted two kids but after what I went through, I have no desire to do it again. My daughter is amazing and I feel fulfilled.
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kelemvor
12/21/21 12:43:00 PM
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If you change your mind you can always adopt. My Wife's 1st cousin had some medical issues after her first child, and couldnt conceive again. They pulled a child put of an abusive situation and even though they don't look like siblings, her two kids are close in age and are like best buds.

And good on you for even having one kid without help. I have three but my Wife's retired grandma lives down the street and helps us out.

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Mearcstapa
12/21/21 12:48:23 PM
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Anyone who criticizes somebody as being selfish for not having kids is a fucking moron.

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gunplagirl
12/21/21 12:51:08 PM
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It's depressing that so many people define women's value on their ability to produce kids. Like we're expected to have a bunch but also provide them the best everything, and also still have to work a good upstanding job so we're good role models to our kids because suddenly being a housewife is only acceptable if we're rich.

Please be firm and stick your foot down and refuse to budge. Explain that they're being presumptuous and that it's not any of their business how you go about your life or how you're handling your child. And if they can't handle it, then tell them to never mention it again.

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Cleo_II
12/21/21 12:55:22 PM
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segasaturn posted...
I guess they forgot that your child could make friends quite easily at a school.
Oh no thats not the same apparently. Which is funny because my brother and younger sister have a terrible relationship and are barely on speaking terms. Theres no guarantee siblings will get along.

TheGoldenEel posted...
Sorry to bring up politics but I think of this in relation to abortion rights

my wife had sciatic pain for the first half of her pregnancy and gestational diabetes for the second half, not to mention all the other things that come with pregnancy like nausea etc

and there are people (mostly men of course) who want to force women to go through that. Just give it up for adoption as if pregnancy is some simple thing
Going through pregnancy has made me more pro choice than ever before. If men had to experience it, anti abortion laws would have never existed. And if they were bleeding through practically diapers for weeks post labor, along with terrible cramps, pain from potential tearing or surgery, while sleeping in 1-2 hour stretches to feed a baby around the clock, we would have a year of paid maternity leave like every other first world country and not be expected back to work 3 days later.

I had 6 months of paid maternity leave and it made me realize how privileged I am to have such great benefits. I cannot fathom how most women in the US have to be back at work so soon. Its frankly barbaric.

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Cleo_II
12/21/21 1:00:24 PM
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gunplagirl posted...
It's depressing that so many people define women's value on their ability to produce kids. Like we're expected to have a bunch but also provide them the best everything, and also still have to work a good upstanding job so we're good role models to our kids because suddenly being a housewife is only acceptable if we're rich.

Please be firm and stick your foot down and refuse to budge. Explain that they're being presumptuous and that it's not any of their business how you go about your life or how you're handling your child. And if they can't handle it, then tell them to never mention it again.
Yes were supposed to sacrifice our bodies and sanity, but also youre a shit mom if you: dont breastfeed, breastfeed too much, have a career because selfish woman who cares more about job than kid, are a SAHM because wow must be nice to have your partner pay for everything, have your kid watch 20 minutes of TV so you can get enough time to actually shower because ScrEEn TiME is baaaad while they watch hours and hours of TV, and on and on
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IronWolf87
12/21/21 1:01:17 PM
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I'm an only child and not having siblings isn't that bad. Just make sure to get your kid involved in structured social activities where they can make friends and be patient with them if they're shy/introverted and they'll be fine.
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Drpooplol
12/21/21 1:02:12 PM
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I feel you. My wife has been getting all sorts of those comments. It's so shitty, and so clearly sexist when she's the only one of us getting those comments.

On a separate note, we planned on only having one kid, but my wife got a job at a daycare and has fallen in love with all of the kiddos and now wants to have another kid, while I still feel pretty strongly on just wanting one. Now I feel like I'm disappointing her. Buh

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NatsuSama
12/21/21 1:02:24 PM
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@Cleo_II
Ignore them.

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Omnislasher
12/21/21 1:03:01 PM
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nothing matters more than what others think of me
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gunplagirl
12/21/21 1:03:36 PM
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Cleo_II posted...
Yes were supposed to sacrifice our bodies and sanity, but also youre a shit mom if you: dont breastfeed, breastfeed too much, have a career because selfish woman who cares more about job than kid, are a SAHM because wow must be nice to have your partner pay for everything, have your kid watch 20 minutes of TV so you can get enough time to actually shower because ScrEEn TiME is baaaad while they watch hours and hours of TV, and on and on
Can't forget that you also can't breastfeed if you're in a heterosexual relationship because "think about your husband" concerns that they'll shrink if you do that. You know, all the old wives tales that aren't even true of most women. :l

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DyingPancake
12/21/21 1:08:23 PM
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We decided long ago we were only having one and 4 years later we still hear about it. That stuff never works on me though as Ill just straight up tell people we only wanted one

My wife gets it worse though since she works in a hospital and talks to patients all the time. Like when one woman says she didnt know what true motherhood was until she had more.

Our daughter was also born deaf in one ear and needs a hearing aide (she functions just as well as any other kid now) and if we had another kid there would be a 50% chance of it happening again and we wouldnt want to risk that anyway. Other people told her You should just have one anyways. It probably wouldnt happen again.

Just heartless things to say to someone honestly

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ScazarMeltex
12/21/21 1:09:58 PM
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Tell them to piss off. It's what my wife and I did. We've been married for almost 18 years now. Our families mostly gave up after the first 5 6ears.

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Omnislasher
12/21/21 1:13:18 PM
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i think i'll start telling breeders what i really think

even things out a little bit
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BlazinBlue88
12/21/21 1:13:21 PM
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Mearcstapa posted...
Anyone who criticizes somebody as being selfish for not having kids is a fucking moron.
You'll hear both sides of this. You're either selfish for not having kids or selfish for having biological kids and not adopting a child in need. Though I'm sure you'd hear more of the former than the later.

My wife and I just had our 12th conversation on whether we want a kid or not. We both still can't decide. I don't have a strong need to have a kid and she spent her entire life taking care of her three younger siblings. Her 12 yo brother lives with us so we basically have a kid. Between him, our 5 dogs, and financial costs of having a kid, I'm not sure if we'll decide to have one but who knows.

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NoxObscuras
12/21/21 1:14:54 PM
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As a guy, I absolutely got all of those comments after my son was born. So many people insisting that he needs a sibling. I definitely sympathize with you.

I say screw those people. You do what's best for you. If you don't want another one, then that's perfectly okay.

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PatrickMahomes
12/21/21 1:15:05 PM
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YEah the answer is to ignore them, tell them to fuck off, or tell them one was always the plan.

If they press further after #3, then revert to #1 or #2.

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Cleo_II
12/21/21 1:16:37 PM
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Drpooplol posted...
I feel you. My wife has been getting all sorts of those comments. It's so shitty, and so clearly sexist when she's the only one of us getting those comments.

On a separate note, we planned on only having one kid, but my wife got a job at a daycare and has fallen in love with all of the kiddos and now wants to have another kid, while I still feel pretty strongly on just wanting one. Now I feel like I'm disappointing her. Buh
Eh it happens. I may change my mind later too who knows. But it takes two to make that decision. Dont have another kid just to make her happy because chances are you will resent her and hurt your relationship more than if you stood firm.

DyingPancake posted...
We decided long ago we were only having one and 4 years later we still hear about it. That stuff never works on me though as Ill just straight up tell people we only wanted one

My wife gets it worse though since she works in a hospital and talks to patients all the time. Like when one woman says she didnt know what true motherhood was until she had more.

Our daughter was also born deaf in one ear and needs a hearing aide (she functions just as well as any other kid now) and if we had another kid there would be a 50% chance of it happening again and we wouldnt want to risk that anyway. Other people told her You should just have one anyways. It probably wouldnt happen again.

Just heartless things to say to someone honestly
People are really fucked up. I assume they must have really disappointing lives where they only feel joy by trying to make others feel bad. Im genuinely over the moon with my daughter. She is the best thing to ever happen to me. I dont go around telling people they should have kids too.

gunplagirl posted...
Can't forget that you also can't breastfeed if you're in a heterosexual relationship because "think about your husband" concerns that they'll shrink if you do that. You know, all the old wives tales that aren't even true of most women. :l
Dude, Ive had men tell me it was better I have a c section and easier. Genuine W T F. Being sliced open and my organs shifted around, fearing I or my baby might die on the operating table, most awful recovery period in my life, I STILL have pain where they cut me, a terrible scar, and somehow thats better because my husband doesnt have to suffer loose vagina. I cant make this shit up.
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pikachupwnage
12/21/21 1:19:45 PM
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evilpresident posted...
Tell them to go fuck themselves.


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CyricZ
12/21/21 1:20:17 PM
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Hey Cleo. I don't have anything to add other than my support. I hope your family members cool off.

Also since you've been sparse on the board lately, life update: I'm nearly six months into a new and great relationship. :)

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meralonne
12/21/21 1:21:10 PM
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My wife and I had two kids. She was on bedrest with preeclampsia both times. Had two wonderful sons. We wanted a daughter but it was just too dangerous so we said nope. When people asked me if we were going to try for a third, I'd explain the situation. Once. Beyond that?

evilpresident posted...
Tell them to go fuck themselves.

Do not let them dictate to you what you should do with your body, TC.

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Cleo_II
12/21/21 1:27:23 PM
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meralonne posted...
My wife and I had two kids. She was on bedrest with preeclampsia both times. Had two wonderful sons. We wanted a daughter but it was just too dangerous so we said nope. When people asked me if we were going to try for a third, I'd explain the situation. Once. Beyond that?

Do not let them dictate to you what you should do with your body, TC.
Thats so hard. A friend of mine nearly died of eclampsia. She wont be trying for a second. Doctors also told her not to.

And no none of their shaming gets to me. I dont plan on having a second kid just to give her a sibling lol. If I do have a second kid its because I will feel like I want to and my husband does as well. Just wanted to vent.

CyricZ posted...
Hey Cleo. I don't have anything to add other than my support. I hope your family members cool off.

Also since you've been sparse on the board lately, life update: I'm nearly six months into a new and great relationship. :)
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Jiek_Fafn
12/21/21 1:38:00 PM
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Yeah, other people are real shitbags when it comes to this stuff. You've posted some incredibly honest takes on the issues that you've experienced with this. Thanks for that. Not enough women do and instead fall into only sharing the good parts and then weirdly perpetuate that those good parts are the whole thing. That's weird af to me.

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Dakimakura
12/21/21 1:38:28 PM
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Adopt a kid

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Trumble
12/21/21 1:39:47 PM
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monkmith posted...
they're likely people suffering with multiple kids and want others to suffer like they do.

This is generally it. The same people who insist on this often in general insist everyone should have to go through whatever they had to go through, no matter how easily it could be avoided.

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Funkydog
12/21/21 1:40:20 PM
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Tell them if they carry it to term you'll happily raise it as your own.

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Cleo_II
12/21/21 1:47:37 PM
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Jiek_Fafn posted...
Yeah, other people are real shitbags when it comes to this stuff. You've posted some incredibly honest takes on the issues that you've experienced with this. Thanks for that. Not enough women do and instead fall into only sharing the good parts and then weirdly perpetuate that those good parts are the whole thing. That's weird af to me.
I honestly didnt expect my pregnancy to be so bad. Women just generally talk about how great everything is. Until you have one and THEN they tell you how horrible it was for them and how much they hated pregnancy. I asked my mom why and she said women do that to not scare others away from it. Nah fuck that, people should make informed decisions so Im honest about my experience to people. I dont mean to scare people away and for me it was worth it in the end. But I have a friend who was lukewarm about it because she feared pregnancy and only heard about it being rainbows and butterflies and shit from her sister, and now has second thoughts after I shared everything with her.
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kingdrake2
12/21/21 1:47:50 PM
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Cleo_II posted...
Over 100 painful needles in my stomach


1 shot too many. those shit hurt very badly :(.
it's worse than the foot, ass or an arm.

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bigblu89
12/21/21 1:49:36 PM
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Just tell them you prefer your husband finishing on your tits.

That usually shuts them up.

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Cleo_II
12/21/21 1:53:47 PM
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kingdrake2 posted...
1 shot too many. those shit hurt very badly :(.
it's worse than the foot, ass or an arm.
The stomach ones werent too bad since the needles were small but one of the meds burned going in so that sucked every time. I learned to ice beforehand to help numb it a bit. The hip ones were the worst because they were muscular injections with big long ass needles. I had a crying fit and froze in terror the first time my husband showed me the needle. I had to have one daily for about 12 weeks straight. And they hurt badly every time. I had a bruise that took about six months to disappear. I have embryos on ice if I ever wanted another baby, but Id have to have those daily hip injections again and I just cant do it. Id also have to have another c section. My family knows still and still call me selfish lol crazy
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gunplagirl
12/21/21 2:03:31 PM
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Cleo_II posted...
Dude, Ive had men tell me it was better I have a c section and easier. Genuine W T F. Being sliced open and my organs shifted around, fearing I or my baby might die on the operating table, most awful recovery period in my life, I STILL have pain where they cut me, a terrible scar, and somehow thats better because my husband doesnt have to suffer loose vagina. I cant make this shit up.
D; being called dude makes me feel like crud so could you please not refer to me as one even if it's a regional dialect? Thank you.

As for the stuff you said, I mean what do men know about womanhood? Apparently some of them know everything, based on how much some of them talk like that. "Hey did you know if your boobs are sore it means you're actually full of toxins from your diet" takes make me laugh until I remember they're serious.

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mybbqrules
12/21/21 2:08:57 PM
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"ThE cHiLd neEds a SiBLinG!"

*me, a father of one living child (his sister passed away at 35 weeks in utero) watching the neighbor boys fight like wildcats all the damn time*

Yeah, fuck that noise. Plus, costs of everything are so prohibitive these days.
I wouldn't be nearly as polite to people throwing this shit at me.

Plus, my son and my nephew (who is also a single child) are already behaviorally two of the most well-adjusted young individuals I've ever met.

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Alucard188
12/21/21 2:10:24 PM
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People really need to get out of another woman's womb. Some people want many kids, some people only want one kid, and some people don't want any kids. It's not anyone's place to judge or persecute them for that.

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TheOtherMike
12/21/21 2:11:21 PM
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I was also a difficult pregnancy; my mom was horribly sick the whole time, had some infections, emergency c section, rough recovery (for her, I was fine). They had originally wanted two kids but decided she didn't need to go through all that again, so I was an only child. Any time someone inquired about it, my parents just told them the pregnancy was too hard on my mom to do again. That pretty much always shut it down.
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