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David1988 12/19/21 12:10:03 AM #1: |
scientists https://www.msn.com/en-gb/entertainment/music/use-of-fear-to-control-behaviour-in-covid-pandemic-was-totalitarian-admit-scientists/ar-BB1gKceh Scientists on a committee that encouraged the use of fear to control peoples behaviour during the Covid pandemic have admitted its work was unethical and totalitarian. Members of the Scientific Pandemic Influenza Group on Behaviour (SPI-B) expressed regret about the tactics in a new book about the role of psychology in the Governments Covid-19 response. SPI-B warned in March last year that ministers needed to increase the perceived level of personal threat from Covid-19 because a substantial number of people still do not feel sufficiently personally threatened. Gavin Morgan, a psychologist on the team, said: Clearly, using fear as a means of control is not ethical. Using fear smacks of totalitarianism. Its not an ethical stance for any modern government. By nature I am an optimistic person, but all this has given me a more pessimistic view of people. Mr Morgan spoke to author Laura Dodsworth, who has spent a year investigating the Governments tactics for her book A State of Fear, published on Monday. Ministers have faced repeated accusations that they ramped up the threat from the pandemic to justify lockdowns and coerce the public into abiding by them a claim that will be examined by the forthcoming public inquiry into the pandemic response. SPI-B is one of the sub-committees that advises the Scientific Advisory Group for Emergencies (Sage), led by Sir Patrick Vallance, the chief scientific adviser. One SPI-B scientist told Ms Dodsworth: In March [2020] the Government was very worried about compliance and they thought people wouldnt want to be locked down. There were discussions about fear being needed to encourage compliance, and decisions were made about how to ramp up the fear. The way we have used fear is dystopian. The use of fear has definitely been ethically questionable. Its been like a weird experiment. Ultimately, it backfired because people became too scared. Another SPI-B member said: You could call psychology mind control. Thats what we do clearly we try and go about it in a positive way, but it has been used nefariously in the past. One warned that people use the pandemic to grab power and drive through things that wouldnt happen otherwise We have to be very careful about the authoritarianism that is creeping in. Another said: Without a vaccine, psychology is your main weapon Psychology has had a really good epidemic, actually. As well as overt warnings about the danger of the virus, the Government has been accused of feeding the public a non-stop diet of bad news, such as deaths and hospitalisations, without ever putting the figures in context with news of how many people have recovered, or whether daily death tolls are above or below seasonal averages. Another member of SPI-B said they were "stunned by the weaponisation of behavioural psychology" during the pandemic, and that psychologists didnt seem to notice when it stopped being altruistic and became manipulative. They have too much power and it intoxicates them. Steve Baker, the deputy chairman of the Covid Recovery Group of Tory MPs, said: If it is true that the state took the decision to terrify the public to get compliance with rules, that raises extremely serious questions about the type of society we want to become. If were being really honest, do I fear that Government policy today is playing into the roots of totalitarianism? Yes, of course it is. What nonsense, clearly they didnt use enough fear if theres still so many people unvaccinated. Hell, if fear wont work then might as well pass legislation that allows the government to forcibly lockdown or vaccinate people during times of emergency like a pandemic, its for the peoples own good --- "Let's be honest...I'm everybody's type. I just gotta highlight the parts that appeal to her the most" - No_U_L7 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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JimmyFraska 12/19/21 12:12:06 AM #2: |
Change the law or nothing changes ... Copied to Clipboard!
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DrizztLink 12/19/21 12:13:25 AM #3: |
JimmyFraska posted... Change the law or nothing changesYeah, we gotta do something about the plague rats. --- http://guidesmedia.ign.com/guides/9846/images/slowpoke.gif https://i.imgur.com/M8h2ATe.png https://i.imgur.com/6ezFwG1.png ... Copied to Clipboard!
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AltyMcAltface 12/19/21 12:23:57 AM #4: |
fuck that, we should be fearing a global pandemic that has killed 5 million people --- I'm an alt. My main is DuranOfForcena. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Ruvan22 12/19/21 12:40:35 AM #5: |
Seems the parent group (SAGE) has been under some criticism itself.. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scientific_Advisory_Group_for_Emergencies#Structure_and_function ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Questionmarktarius 12/19/21 12:42:41 AM #6: |
JimmyFraska posted... Change the law or nothing changesThat "law" already exists. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jacobson_v._Massachusetts ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Turtlemayor333 12/19/21 12:49:38 AM #7: |
Clearly the experts and scientists are the fascists, and definitely not the people trying to overthrow the government because of an election they lost. And they call this "left wing media." --- http://i.imgur.com/WWk7D.jpg http://i.imgur.com/hE7v5GL.jpg http://i.imgur.com/sY9YLKe.jpg http://i.imgur.com/9e67vqt.jpg ... Copied to Clipboard!
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ArchHero 12/19/21 12:50:52 AM #8: |
"to justify lockdowns" Is this some kind of anti-lockdown article? --- GF, a veritable utopia where pro-LGBT posts are deleted. I considered becoming an FBI agent, or just a judge, in college but ended up writing stories/poems. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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David1988 12/19/21 12:55:22 AM #9: |
ArchHero posted... "to justify lockdowns" Is this some kind of anti-lockdown article? Sounds like it, these scientists are doing their profession a disservice, as another poster have said, we should be fearing a global pandemic that has killed 5 million people --- "Let's be honest...I'm everybody's type. I just gotta highlight the parts that appeal to her the most" - No_U_L7 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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iPhone_7 12/19/21 12:56:48 AM #10: |
There was fear mongering? --- Sig User Logic http://i.imgur.com/lA5fm7w.jpg ... Copied to Clipboard!
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David1988 12/19/21 12:59:05 AM #11: |
iPhone_7 posted... There was fear mongering? Warning people of the seriousness of covid with million dead is fear mongering apparently, some "scientists." --- "Let's be honest...I'm everybody's type. I just gotta highlight the parts that appeal to her the most" - No_U_L7 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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