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Antifar
12/15/21 10:10:51 PM
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https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2021/dec/15/revealed-los-angeles-police-social-media-surveillance-technology

The Los Angeles police department worked with a Polish firm that specializes in strategic communications to monitor social media and collect millions of tweets last year, including thousands related to Black Lives Matter and defund the police, according to records reviewed by the Guardian.

Internal LAPD documents, obtained by the Brennan Center for Justice through public records requests, reveal that the department conducted a one-month trial of social media monitoring software from Edge NPD, a company that typically worked in advertising and marketing, had no prior experience contracting with law enforcement and was based thousands of miles away in Warsaw, Poland.

During the trial in fall 2020, Edge NPD tracked tweets on roughly 200 keywords for LAPD, the records show. In the process, the software collected millions of tweets, according to Edge NPDs CEO, Dobromir Cias. The data set included tens of thousands of tweets related to Black Lives Matter and racial justice protests, some of them from prominent Black activists outside LA and private civilians advocating for reforms, the files show.

The records suggest that LAPD was interested in using the companys services in part to help the department respond to negative narratives. Cias told the Guardian the company also aimed to flag possible threats.

The documents did not reveal what LAPD did with the data that was collected, and the department did not respond to repeated requests for comment.

LAPD ultimately did not pursue a permanent contract with the firm. But still, experts said, the trial raised serious concerns.

They wondered about the effectiveness of pulling in so much data, in so little time. Some said that, although law enforcement, journalists and researchers regularly monitor public online activity, it was troubling that a police agencys social media monitoring activities appeared to include tracking a broad swath of critics. And the partnership also raised questions about oversight of surveillance technology, as well as police agencies data collection practices.

LAPDs test run with Edge NPD came as law enforcement agencies have increasingly been forced to take their investigations online, and have sought tools to do so. Tech firms have responded by pushing new innovations and pursuing police contracts, and LAPD and the New York police department, with some of the largest budgets in the US, have often been at the forefront of piloting software.

Edge NPD primarily assists private companies with market research and helps them ensure that advertising campaigns arent jeopardized by bots and trolls, Cias told the Guardian.

The company was connected to LAPD by a US government agency that had used the firms software. A representative of that federal department emailed Edge NPD in September 2020, saying LAPD was interested in using its services for public safety and strategic communications and to identify disruptive social media activity being artificially amplified by malign actors.

ABTShield, Edge NPDs proprietary software, could help LAPD identify as early as possible when activity that could lead to civil unrest is being amplified via social media, the US representative wrote, adding, From a messaging perspective, knowing what the negative narratives being artificially amplified are would allow the communications team to create effective and timely responses.

During the 40-day trial in October and November of 2020, Edge NPD provided LAPD with a dashboard monitoring tweets related to six topics: civil unrest, American policing, domestic extremism and white nationalism, election security, potential danger and the conflict between Armenia and Azerbaijan (which at the time was prompting local LA protests).

The two entities discussed roughly 200 possible keywords to follow, including lapdchiefmoore, abolish the police, nojusticenopeace, police budget, police killing and acab (a protest slogan that stands for all cops are bastards). In one email, Cias suggested adding defund the police and BLM to the list of keywords to follow.

An LAPD official agreed that BLM would be good to monitor, but added that there are MANY legitimate people who are using that to express their rights, records show.

Cias said that in addition to the dashboard, on occasion he would also personally send tweets to LAPD that he thought might signal a public safety threat.

The major goal was to actually pass [along] quickly anything that looks kind of dangerous, he said. He acknowledged he didnt always confirm whether the content he was forwarding was legitimate: When youre passing this information, you dont really know how serious it is. I think its up to law enforcement to really verify if its true We dont do fact checking.

At one point, the records show, Cias emailed the department a post from a critic who had tweeted a video that appeared to show an LAPD officer tackling a journalist with a comment the department was overfunded and high on power. (Cias told the Guardian he was sharing it as an example of how defund narratives were gaining traction online.)



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DoctorPiranha3
12/15/21 10:12:25 PM
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Sounds like an ample use of resources.
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Ruvan22
12/15/21 10:15:58 PM
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I wonder what Darkprince's take on this will be
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DarthAragorn
12/15/21 10:17:26 PM
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Ruvan22 posted...
I wonder what Darkprince's take on this will be
Probably the same as when cops beat or shoot dogs or unarmed people

Completely absent but whenever someone does something bad to cops he'll be the one to post about it!

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darkprince45
12/15/21 10:32:14 PM
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Pretty sure every police department and federal agency does this.

Article: Police use public social media posts with keywords to identify possible threats to public safety

Darth: foaming at the mouth for me

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OudeGeuze
12/15/21 10:33:38 PM
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darkprince45 posted...
Pretty sure every police department and federal agency does this.

Article: Police use public social media posts with keywords to identify possible threats to public safety

Darth: foaming at the mouth for me
The only threat to public safety is cops and it's clear they weren't monitoring themselves
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thronedfire2
12/15/21 10:34:44 PM
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idk not sure why anyone would be surprised by this. twitter is probably a goldmine of information because people think they can just say whatever they want on the internet

the FBI probably did the same thing for the Jan 6th investigation

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darkprince45
12/15/21 10:35:07 PM
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OudeGeuze posted...
The only threat to public safety is cops and it's clear they weren't monitoring themselves
lmao

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darkprince45
12/15/21 10:35:44 PM
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thronedfire2 posted...
idk not sure why anyone would be surprised by this. twitter is probably a goldmine of information because people think they can just say whatever they want on the internet

the FBI probably did the same thing for the Jan 6th investigation
Yes. and these same posters were laughing and giggling when a bunch of them got caught based off their tinder convo's, social media posts and pictures as well

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Antifar
12/15/21 10:35:55 PM
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Mary Pat Dwyer, a Brennan Center fellow, questioned why LAPD was wasting limited resources to chase content online that doesnt pose any kind of safety threat, including ordinary political speech and criticisms of police. Its striking the volume of information that they were pulling in and the terms they were using. Its hard to understand how LAPD would even be processing all of this.

It creates a much larger haystack of data that doesnt actually lead to any real, tangible, positive outcome for communities, said Steven Renderos, executive director of the national racial justice organization Media Justice. Instead it just equips the police department with more data that helps it kind of justify its own efforts to to tell a better story about itself.

He pointed out that the list included keywords such as domestic extremism and racist that were purportedly intended to capture tweets about white supremacy. No one is describing themselves as a domestic extremist, Renderos said. Instead you then start filtering in tweets and messages from people who are merely protesting white supremacy. Take these keywords together and what its actually doing is capturing a subset of thought and dissent among people. And thats dangerous.

They also worried what an agency like LAPD could ultimately do with such data. I dont trust the Los Angeles police department to use a tool with this amount of data in a way thats responsible, because history has shown us that they cant, said Renderos.

LAPD has faced several racial profiling scandals over the years. The Guardian also recently revealed that LAPD was engaging in broad collection of civilians social media data, and had partnered with a different tech firm that claimed its algorithms could identify people who may commit crimes in the future, with criteria that experts said was discriminatory. Those revelations prompted Facebook to demand that LAPD stop collecting data on its platform for surveillance.

Activists caught up in the surveillance said they were not surprised. The software flagged tweets by Bree Newsome Bass, who received national attention in 2015 when she climbed a flagpole to remove a confederate flag at the South Carolina statehouse. In a thread included in the files, Newsome Bass advocated for demilitarizing police and putting funding toward mental health first responders. The resistance to defunding police is 100% about racism & normalizing the daily violence police forces inflict on marginalized communities for the benefit of ruling classes, she wrote.

Its political targeting, Newsome Bass told the Guardian. Weve seen instance after instance where police agencies are focused more on policing Black people who are demanding equality and civil rights than actually preventing any violence Theyre making the case for defunding the police even further. Theyre using taxpayer dollars to monitor our social media where were talking about how were wasting money on police.

Theres nothing violent or criminal about saying defund the police, added Melina Abdullah, co-founder of Black Lives Matter LA. We have a right to say defund the police. The idea that LA is tracking this kind of ideology should be very scary to people.

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ChocoboMogALT
12/15/21 10:37:17 PM
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darkprince45 posted...
lmao
25 dogs a day.

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darkprince45
12/15/21 10:39:38 PM
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If this topic is just gonna turn into the whining circle jerk with the same posters instead of an actual discussion. Then, enjoy it yourselves

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DarthAragorn
12/15/21 10:40:16 PM
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darkprince45 posted...
If this topic is just gonna turn into the whining circle jerk with the same posters instead of an actual discussion. Then, enjoy it yourselves
Easily offended?

Maybe you really are a cop

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darkprince45
12/15/21 10:41:50 PM
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DarthAragorn posted...
Easily offended?

Maybe you really are a cop
I don't think anyone is offended lol

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ElatedVenusaur
12/15/21 10:42:11 PM
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They're just laying the groundwork for if/when dissent against the security state is criminalized. That way they know who to round up in advance.

In the short term, they know who to nail to wall on petty charges.

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ArchHero
12/15/21 10:43:30 PM
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darkprince45 posted...
If this topic is just gonna turn into the whining circle jerk with the same posters instead of an actual discussion. Then, enjoy it yourselves
Buh bye.

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Ruvan22
12/15/21 10:43:31 PM
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darkprince45 posted...
Pretty sure every police department and federal agency does this.

Article: Police use public social media posts with keywords to identify possible threats to public safety

Darth: foaming at the mouth for me
How exactly are you defining "threats to public safety" ?
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ChocoboMogALT
12/15/21 10:44:02 PM
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darkprince45 posted...
If this topic is just gonna turn into the whining circle jerk with the same posters instead of an actual discussion. Then, enjoy it yourselves
You continue to engage.
I'll be honest, I have no intention of engaging in the topic itself and don't think you should either unless you actually have evidence that they were actively pursuing dangerous individuals. Might as well make a file on every depressed white male in high school (needs saying, this is satire).

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greyfox747
12/15/21 10:44:24 PM
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darkprince45 posted...
If this topic is just gonna turn into the whining circle jerk with the same posters instead of an actual discussion. Then, enjoy it yourselves
Man, youre really upset about TC posting the part of the article that said youre wrong, huh

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Solid Snake07
12/15/21 10:44:40 PM
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Did you really need a news article to tell you that law enforcement tracks social media?

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NinjaWarrior455
12/15/21 10:52:37 PM
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Seems like a massive waste of taxpayer money that could be better used for many better things

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Ruvan22
12/15/21 10:52:38 PM
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Solid Snake07 posted...
Did you really need a news article to tell you that law enforcement tracks social media?
Ehhh it's more specific - anti police social media
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DarthAragorn
12/15/21 10:53:59 PM
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NinjaWarrior455 posted...
Seems like a massive waste of taxpayer money that could be better used for many better things
So, police.

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ScazarMeltex
12/15/21 10:58:21 PM
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darkprince45 posted...
Pretty sure every police department and federal agency does this.

Article: Police use public social media posts with keywords to identify possible threats to public safety

Darth: foaming at the mouth for me
People who think the cops should be defunded = "threats to public safety".
Sounds about right.

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Intro2Logic
12/15/21 11:01:21 PM
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darkprince45 posted...
Pretty sure every police department and federal agency does this.
You get how that's worse, right?

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Gwynevere
12/16/21 6:52:50 AM
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"Police actually need more funding"

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FunkyCat
12/16/21 7:31:28 AM
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Almost guaranteed any government agency around the world is already doing this tbh.

Doesn't make it ok, but just a reality that we are all heavily monitored by the forces above us.

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Kakapo
12/16/21 7:34:00 AM
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Obviously keeping their eyes on the things that matter.

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UnfairRepresent
12/16/21 7:35:50 AM
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We were always at war with East Asia

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hockeybub89
12/16/21 7:38:15 AM
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Minority Report type beat

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Antifar
12/17/21 8:42:35 PM
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https://twitter.com/AnimeNewsNet/status/1471914353850990601

Lol

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IShall_Run_Amok
12/17/21 8:44:30 PM
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They probably do the same thing for people tweeting about their dogs.

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Background_Guy
12/17/21 9:39:09 PM
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Keyword monitoring is an extremely common thing for any entity dealing in PR or advertising
I've worked in it myself, at an marketing company.
Assume any decent sized company or government agency is doing it to some extent.
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