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OudeGeuze
12/13/21 9:16:16 PM
#1:


not negatively toxic, but positively toxic

calling out people for playing bad results in people enabling the bad player, people refuse outside help when you try to help them, and wont kick shitty/underperforming party members

for context, did a dungeon, tried to kick this horrible monk, his friends kept voting no and for some reason i stuck it out to the end

said monk used a whopping 3 abilities the entire dungeon (and no, he wasnt a bot)

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ultimate reaver
12/13/21 9:18:18 PM
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wait a minute your telling me some guys friends didnt ditch him to play video games with you?

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Dakimakura
12/13/21 9:19:37 PM
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tc sounds like the toxic one

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itachi15243
12/13/21 9:21:04 PM
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ultimate reaver posted...
wait a minute your telling me some guys friends didnt ditch him to play video games with you?

Dakimakura posted...
tc sounds like the toxic one


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PatrickMahomes
12/13/21 9:22:20 PM
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ultimate reaver posted...
wait a minute your telling me some guys friends didnt ditch him to play video games with you?

Dakimakura posted...
tc sounds like the toxic one


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ApherosyLove
12/13/21 9:22:37 PM
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ultimate reaver posted...
wait a minute your telling me some guys friends didnt ditch him to play video games with you?
Yeah for some reason he stuck it out to the end

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OudeGeuze
12/13/21 9:22:39 PM
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ultimate reaver posted...
wait a minute your telling me some guys friends didnt ditch him to play video games with you?
no, i was trying to kick this horrible monk that refused to use his kit and kept getting hit by mechanics and nearly causing wipes, the tank and healer kept refusing to kick him so i assume they were friends

Dakimakura posted...
tc sounds like the toxic one
nah, the ff14 community is notorious for coddling bad players and enabling shitty playstyle because "you dont pay my sub"
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DarthAragorn
12/13/21 9:23:22 PM
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Imagine being such a turd you use external programs to judge people in fucking dungeons

Not raids, dungeons

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OudeGeuze
12/13/21 9:24:48 PM
#9:


DarthAragorn posted...
Imagine being such a turd you use external programs to judge people in fucking dungeons

Not raids, dungeons
if you refuse to actually play your job and consistently fail mechanics and refuse outside help you absolutely deserved to be kicked from groups
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Rharyx211
12/13/21 9:25:03 PM
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Yeah, micromanaging how other people play their games is what's actually toxic here.

You cleared the dungeon, so just move on.
Having entire graphs and flowcharts open to try and prove to someone else how much they suck is super weird.

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MysteryMan923
12/13/21 9:25:40 PM
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You are the company you keep. Don't party with n00bs.

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OudeGeuze
12/13/21 9:26:24 PM
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MysteryMan923 posted...
You are the company you keep. Don't party with n00bs.
hard to when you use random queues
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Touch
12/13/21 9:26:33 PM
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TC so damn toxic smh

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Tenlaar
12/13/21 9:26:40 PM
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What Im getting from this story is that they didnt actually cause wipes, the rest of the group was fine with them, and you finished the dungeonyet still felt the need to make a post on here to complainand youre saying other people are the toxic ones.
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itachi15243
12/13/21 9:27:09 PM
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DarthAragorn posted...
Imagine being such a turd you use external programs to judge people in fucking dungeons

Not raids, dungeons

Tc is using 3rd party tools(against the rules) while:

ultimate reaver posted...
wait a minute your telling me some guys friends didnt ditch him to play video games with you?

Dakimakura posted...
tc sounds like the toxic one

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OudeGeuze
12/13/21 9:27:38 PM
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Tenlaar posted...
What Im getting from this story is that they didnt actually cause wipes, the rest of the group was fine with them, and you finished the dungeonyet still felt the need to make a post on here to complainand youre saying other people are the toxic ones.
yup, when you enable bad playstyles youre negatively affecting the community
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MysteryMan923
12/13/21 9:28:40 PM
#17:


OudeGeuze posted...
hard to when you use random queues

Just leave the party and find some people that don't suck.

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SpiritSephiroth
12/13/21 9:29:10 PM
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You're parsing in a dungeon. Not only that, but your using that information to bash on another player who is playing however he wants.

Again this is a DUNGEON, casual content. You'd have an argument if this was an extreme, savage or ultimate raid. But its not.

I'd report you in a heartbeat.

Edit: Keep in mind Yoshi-p literally stated that he doesn't mind parsers unless they use the information to dictate who stays in a party in casual content and if they use said information to bash other players. So yeah, you're literally going against TOS for this. Fortunately for you, you blanked your name out.

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Zikten
12/13/21 9:29:49 PM
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if you finished the dungeon and nobody died, why do you care? All that matters is if the party wipes or clears the dungeon.
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Dakimakura
12/13/21 9:31:13 PM
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SpiritSephiroth posted...
You're parsing in a dungeon. Not only that, but your using that information to bash on another player who is playing however he wants.

That's the reason FFXIV players can't have parsing meters for actual savage raiding content because shitheads use it to bash new players into quitting and justify their toxic behavior.

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Rharyx211
12/13/21 9:31:32 PM
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TC has gotta be trolling by this point, but if he's not, just remember: it's just a game; it's not that big of a deal.

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Kisai
12/13/21 9:36:14 PM
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TC's the toxic one. Guarantee he plays this game 24/7 and constantly shits on people for not knowing every detail of the entire game's mechanics and not having the rarest, more powerful weapons and armor. I had to deal with someone like that on PSO2. Because I didn't play as obsessively as he did, in his eyes, I basically never played the game at all.

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AngelicRadiance
12/13/21 9:36:46 PM
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All MMO communities are toxic

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OudeGeuze
12/13/21 9:38:15 PM
#24:


SpiritSephiroth posted...
player who is playing however he wants.
when you refuse to use more than 3 skills you should be kicked, regardless of content, you're blatantly refusing to at least trying to play your job and perform your role
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MysteryMan923
12/13/21 9:39:34 PM
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Zikten posted...
if you finished the dungeon and nobody died, why do you care? All that matters is if the party wipes or clears the dungeon.

Thank God I never pted with you back in my ffxi days.

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Zikten
12/13/21 9:39:50 PM
#26:


OudeGeuze posted...

when you refuse to use more than 3 skills you should be kicked, regardless of content

You beat the dungeon. There is no reason to care beyond that. You are the type of person who makes other plays quit mmos, which slowly kills your game
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ssjevot
12/13/21 9:40:57 PM
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I don't know how it's done on Western servers, but the party finder will generally say what type of experience you need to join their group. If you are doing random content though that's really not expected to get people who know what they're doing, because it's basically impossible to fail the normal content in the game. If you are doing end game content and you aren't using party finder to find a group with appropriate experience that's probably on you.

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Pitlord_Special
12/13/21 9:41:56 PM
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OudeGeuze posted...
when you refuse to use more than 3 skills you should be kicked, regardless of content

Maybe their friend has a physical disability that keeps them from being able to play optimally and so they carry him through the story to give him the opportunity to experience it with them? Sucks that you had a bad attitude about it and that party was more charitable than you deserved since they couldve easily kicked you before the last boss if they wanted to be toxic.

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Dakimakura
12/13/21 9:42:35 PM
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Pitlord_Special posted...
Maybe their friend has a physical disability that keeps them from being able to play optimally and so they carry him through the story to give him the opportunity to experience it with them? Sucks that you had a bad attitude about it and that party was more charitable than you deserved since they couldve easily kicked you before the last boss if they wanted to be toxic.

Yeah, it could have been his wife

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Delirious_Beard
12/13/21 9:42:40 PM
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isn't dungeon content a total joke in that game? who cares

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Zikten
12/13/21 9:43:11 PM
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MysteryMan923 posted...


Thank God I never pted with you back in my ffxi days.

seems you are the only person here that is defending TC
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SSJKirby
12/13/21 9:43:55 PM
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imagine being this mad about someone you'll never see again

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Dakimakura
12/13/21 9:44:01 PM
#34:


Delirious_Beard posted...
isn't dungeon content a total joke in that game? who cares

Yes, it is a game for casuals to have fun and enjoy the story up until savage raid content.

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Kloe_Rinz
12/13/21 9:44:06 PM
#35:


One of those things is not like the others

calling out players for playing shit - how about you be a less toxic person and give them constructive criticism

wont kick shitty players - good, fuck off back to WoW if thats your mindset. You should be giving them constructive criticism instead

players wont take constructive criticism - I dont believe you ever gave them any, but even if you did and they still dont listen, yes thats a problem but its unrelated to this topic since you just want your toxic behaviour to be acceptable

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MysteryMan923
12/13/21 9:45:33 PM
#36:


Zikten posted...
seems you are the only person here that is defending TC

I'm probably also the only one here who was in a really good endgame/HNM linkshell for ffxi


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ChrisTaka
12/13/21 9:47:25 PM
#37:


OudeGeuze posted...
not negatively toxic, but positively toxic

Ngl the FFXIV community is one of the only communities I would consider too nice lmao

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Background_Guy
12/13/21 9:49:31 PM
#38:


...Have I seen this thread before? I feel like a thread with this exact opening line was posted before.
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Rharyx211
12/13/21 9:53:10 PM
#39:


Yeah, p much every encounter I've had with some who actually gave out actual helpful tips and pointers was really nice.

When I was starting as a Tank, I didn't know about pulling with AOEs until this one dude in a dungeon told me about it -- I had just been pulling enemies one at a time beforehand. After I switched it up, he gave me a "good job!" and we finished the dungeon. It was super wholesome.

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SpiritSephiroth
12/13/21 9:55:09 PM
#40:


OudeGeuze posted...
when you refuse to use more than 3 skills you should be kicked, regardless of content, you're blatantly refusing to at least trying to play your job and perform your role

Or you could leave the party yourself and join a new one, since you're the odd one out there not them. They're playing the content at their own place, and it's only one person trying to push them forward when they don't want to, and that's you.

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OudeGeuze
12/13/21 10:09:51 PM
#41:


MysteryMan923 posted...
I'm probably also the only one here who was in a really good endgame/HNM linkshell for ffxi
shoutouts to jp SAMs camping NM/HNM spawns

SpiritSephiroth posted...
Or you could leave the party yourself and join a new one, since you're the odd one out there not them. They're playing the content at their own place, and it's only one person trying to push them forward when they don't want to, and that's you.
in a group setting with randoms you dont get to decide the pace of the group by doing less than the bare minimum
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Zikten
12/13/21 10:10:57 PM
#42:


OudeGeuze posted...

shoutouts to jp SAMs camping NM/HNM spawns

in a group setting with randoms you dont get to decide the pace of the group by doing less than the bare minimum

in a group with random, if you are the only person whining, you are the person who should be kicked
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Zikten
12/13/21 10:11:47 PM
#43:


also they did do the bare minimum. You finished the dungeon. That proves they did the bare minimum needed to clear the content
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OudeGeuze
12/13/21 10:13:05 PM
#44:


Zikten posted...
also they did do the bare minimum. You finished the dungeon. That proves they did the bare minimum needed to clear the content
or the fact that i did 49% of the damage in a 4 man group means i carried an extreme amount of deadweight doing less than the bare minimum
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Zikten
12/13/21 10:15:05 PM
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OudeGeuze posted...

or the fact that i did 49% of the damage in a 4 man group means i carried an extreme amount of deadweight doing less than the bare minimum

you should have quit the group. Like I said, people like you drive people to quit mmos
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Dakimakura
12/13/21 10:16:35 PM
#46:


OudeGeuze posted...
or the fact that i did 49% of the damage in a 4 man group means i carried an extreme amount of deadweight doing less than the bare minimum

And I am certain they did just fine without you. You weren't needed so you were kicked for crying too much.


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Zikten
12/13/21 10:18:25 PM
#47:


If you are wondering why I am responding so much TC, I've had bad experiences with people like you. People like you are why I've cut down on online gaming and going back to single player stuff
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Questionmarktarius
12/13/21 10:19:29 PM
#48:


OudeGeuze posted...
positively toxic
what, like whiskey?
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Buzz Killjoy
12/13/21 10:19:35 PM
#49:


MysteryMan923 posted...
I'm probably also the only one here who was in a really good endgame/HNM linkshell for ffxi

Nah

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Kim_Seong-a
12/13/21 10:23:22 PM
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What dungeon was this?

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