Current Events > Wil Wheaton explains the harmfulness Dave Chappelle's transphobic 'jokes'

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When you can't defend transphobia, just accuse the guy pointing it out of being a racist. That makes your transphobia okay because even potential racists are always wrong about everything.

Tyranthraxus posted...

When you can't defend transphobia, just accuse the guy pointing it out of being a racist. That makes your transphobia okay because even potential racists are always wrong about everything.

He went out of his way to blame his actions on black guy then complained about another black guy for supporting a white women. BEFORE complaining about the white women in question.

And once more this is America, making black people the face of every messed up aspect of America.

Who the fuck is Wil Wheaton?

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cjsdowg posted...

He went out of his way to blame his actions on black guy then complained about another black guy for supporting a white women. BEFORE complaining about the white women in question.

And once more this is America, making black people the face of every messed up aspect of America.

This is so shameless lol. You're just as bad as the dude who said that Dave can't punch down on trans people because they're predominantly white

Gwynevere posted...

This is so shameless lol. You're just as bad as the dude who said that Dave can't punch down on trans people because they're predominantly white

There isn't anything shameful about pointing out that Wil is a racist opportunist. He has more smoke for Dave then he had for Chris Hardwick. Hell you could not even address the points I brought up.

MasterVading posted...

Who the fuck is Wil Wheaton?

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He was on Star Trek the Next Generation, and Family Guy.

cjsdowg posted...

There isn't anything shameful about pointing out that Wil is a racist opportunist.

Holy shit dude, you really have to be doing this as a joke.

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I agree with what he says. That's why comedy, satire should be really just for adults who understand and differenciate real life and satire....which sadly is not most adults.

gatorsPENSbucs posted...

oly shit dude, you really have to be doing this as a joke.

This is the history that Wil has on this subject.

https://archive.md/PSnAQ#selection-205.0-225.704

Wil has supported TERFS then attack Dave.

cjsdowg posted...

There isn't anything shameful about pointing out that Wil is a racist opportunist. He has more smoke for Dave then he had for Chris Hardwick. Hell you could not even address the points I brought up.

It's because there's nothing worth addressing in your post. You're presenting this in such a way that homophobia and transphobia from black comedians can't be criticized because we still have shit for race relations in the US, which is complete bullshit. Bigotry is bigotry, and it's incredibly hypocritical to try to deflect from that.

Gwynevere posted...

It's because there's nothing worth addressing in your post. You're presenting this in such a way that homophobia and transphobia from black comedians can't be criticized because we still have shit for race relations in the US, which is complete bullshit. Bigotry is bigotry, and it's incredibly hypocritical to try to deflect from that.

That isn't want I claimed at all. I pointed out how people like to make Black people responsible for all of Americans issues. He never heard the F word from anyone else but Eddie. And he never seen a TERF before Dave. Wil litereally endorsed TERFS. But is Dave who is the issue. But whatever the BIG black Bogeymen is always here for you dump your issues on.

cjsdowg posted...

That isn't want I claimed at all. I pointed out how people like to make Black people responsible for all of Americans issues. He never heard the F word from anyone else but Eddie. And he never seen a TERF before Dave. Wil litereally endorsed TERFS. But is Dave who is the issue. But whatever the BIG black Bogeymen is always here for you dump your issues on.

Wheaton is using Eddie Murphy as an example from when he was young because it is a relevant comparison to what Dave's comments/stance is doing nowadays. You claiming that it is because Eddie and Dave are black and there is a vendetta against them because they're black is just distracting from the issue. This is very similar to what Chappelle seemed to do in his comedy special. I don't recall the exact thing he said but I remember getting the impression Dave thought Trans people don't have it so hard from a societal point of view and that black people still have it hard, so this Trans conversation shouldn't even matter. Someone can correct me if I'm wrong on that.

Either way, come off it. Stop trying to distract from the Trans conversation and minimize the issue. Guess what? We live in a world where both black people and trans people are treated shitty. It's not a competition. We should not disregard one's plight over another, nor should anyone be so willing to punch down and make another group's experience harder.

cjsdowg posted...

Wil litereally endorsed TERFS

He literally endorsed a TERFs block list and essentially immediately backed out of that.

AlCalavicci posted...

Wheaton is using Eddie Murphy as an example from when he was young because it is a relevant comparison to what Dave's comments/stance is doing nowadays. You claiming that it is because Eddie and Dave are black and there is a vendetta against them because they're black is just distracting from the issue. This is very similar to what Chappelle seemed to do in his comedy special. I don't recall the exact thing he said but I remember getting the impression Dave thought Trans people don't have it so hard from a societal point of view and that black people still have it hard, so this Trans conversation shouldn't even matter. Someone can correct me if I'm wrong on that.

Either way, come off it. Stop trying to distract from the Trans conversation and minimize the issue. Guess what? We live in a world where both black people and trans people are treated shitty. It's not a competition. We should not disregard one's plight over another, nor should anyone be so willing to punch down and make another group's experience harder.

He blamed Eddie for him being homophobic. Do you know how fucking homophobic rich ass white people were in the 80s. AIDS killed scores of people because the government didn't want to be seen stopping an illness that "only" hurt gay people. The police raided gay bars, and beat gay people on the streets. And the list can go on. But nope none of that impacted him at all but Eddie did. If he just complained about Dave, that would be on thing. But he blames his personally flaw on a black man.
And you don't see an issue with this.

cjsdowg posted...

He blamed Eddie for him being homophobic. Do you know how fucking homophobic rich ass white people were in the 80s. AIDS killed scores of people because the government didn't want to be seen stopping an illness that "only" hurt gay people. The police raided gay bars, and beat gay people on the streets. And the list can go on. But nope none of that impacted him at all but Eddie did. If he just complained about Dave, that would be on thing. But he blames his personally flaw on a black man.
And you don't see an issue with this.

He is relating a personal experience about how a comedian that he liked as a kid saying homophobic things normalized him saying homophobic things. And that Dave normalizing similar comments about trans people makes other people think its ok to say these things.

I dont know why you went on a tangent about the government, AIDS, and police, and accuse Will of leaving stuff out like that that affected him. Did it affect him? I have no idea, but if he didnt have a personal experience in any of those areas than it is irrelevant to this discussion, but as always you want to distract and make this issue about everything else.

You are the one choosing to see race in this and assume that Will is blaming Eddie for homophobia and that its a race issue. Again, this is not a competition between who has it worse, black people or trans people (there are black trans people by the way). Stop minimizing one groups plight because you think by some stretch some d-list celebrity is making an attack on black people (hes not).

Tyranthraxus posted...

After that line he says "[I'm team TERF.] I agree. I agree, man. Gender is a fact."

Wooowwwwww! Chap with the knee slappers!

Oh no, I mean, Chap with the outta date cranky rants thrown out at people.

Was he asked his opinion?

Because I have never once asked what the fuck Wil Wheaton has to say about anything