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Shotgunnova
12/10/21 7:30:32 AM
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Moraine gets "exiled" for being "bad" and everyone turns their back on her; Mat has a shadow monster hoovered out of thrown back into the dagger; Egwene gives over the Aes Sedai bling rings; and the False Dragon mouths off, then wishes for death in the next breath. Funniest part was Moraine BTFO-ing that red Aes Sedai with her spilled secret, though.

And now the gang is all together again. Oh, except Mat, who didn't jump into the creepy magical portal into a creepy, lightless cave. Can't blame him. I'm curious where the Eye of the World is, though, since this feels like the RPG-esque "traverse the whole continent" type of adventure.



Let's face it: the binding soul/magic contract Moraine gave definitely has wording that allows her to be called back, so she's gotta return at some point (Chekhov's magical pact). They're about to go into Mordor, though, so I'd give it a few seasons before they cash in.

Oh, and mark any book spoilers.

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white barret
12/10/21 7:38:37 AM
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Mat and the dagger legit bothered me

Episodes of build up, and Moiraine is like stupid boy and its done in a two minute scene

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UnicornRaline
12/10/21 7:51:48 AM
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It's been kinda bugging me that they skipped two whole cities from the books so far.

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Shotgunnova
12/10/21 7:55:03 AM
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white barret posted...
Mat and the dagger legit bothered me
Episodes of build up, and Moiraine is like stupid boy and its done in a two minute scene
He was advised not to touch anything when going into the city, right? I guess "also don't take anything" kinda overlaps with that. So, yeah, hopefully that's a lesson learned.

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pinky0926
12/10/21 7:56:17 AM
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I can't quite bring myself to watch this series because the books were such a huge investment that ultimately let me down.

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white barret
12/10/21 8:04:59 AM
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pinky0926 posted...
I can't quite bring myself to watch this series because the books were such a huge investment that ultimately let me down.
The books ended awesome though

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white barret
12/10/21 8:05:34 AM
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UnicornRaline posted...
It's been kinda bugging me that they skipped two whole cities from the books so far.
Yeah theyre rushing too much I agree

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pinky0926
12/10/21 8:08:56 AM
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white barret posted...
The books ended awesome though

The books peaked at around book 5, and then Robert Jordan slowly began to lose the plot as he developed a hyper fixation on the fashion principles and body language expressions of literally over a thousand different female characters who are completely unimportant to the plot. Book 10 is quite literally one of the worst books I've ever read in my life.

And then it was sort of saved by Brandon Sanderson, but I found the prose and tone shift jarring by that point.

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white barret
12/10/21 8:18:43 AM
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pinky0926 posted...
The books peaked at around book 5, and then Robert Jordan slowly began to lose the plot as he developed a hyper fixation on the fashion principles and body language expressions of literally over a thousand different female characters who are completely unimportant to the plot. Book 10 is quite literally one of the worst books I've ever read in my life.

And then it was sort of saved by Brandon Sanderson, but I found the prose and tone shift jarring by that point.
I liked the tonal shift tbh, went from omg more world building to were actually finishing the story, especially after dealing with GRRM

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pinky0926
12/10/21 8:45:00 AM
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white barret posted...
I liked the tonal shift tbh, went from omg more world building to were actually finishing the story, especially after dealing with GRRM

It did remarkably improve things but it still felt like an odd change to me.

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WrkHrdPlayHrdr
12/10/21 8:52:03 AM
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I thought it was a good episode. I really wish they would have spent some more time answering questions before they opened The Ways. There's still some core concepts that haven't been explained like ta'veren. I'm still not even sure they will talk about that but I feel like they half to. And I think Moraine mentioned it once in the first episode to Lan.

Matt staying behind was weird. I know he has a new actor next season so maybe it has something to do with it, I don't know.

I'm hyped though.

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white barret
12/10/21 8:56:02 AM
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WrkHrdPlayHrdr posted...
I thought it was a good episode. I really wish they would have spent some more time answering questions before they opened The Ways. There's still some core concepts that haven't been explained like ta'veren. I'm still not even sure they will talk about that but I feel like they half to. And I think Moraine mentioned it once in the first episode to Lan.

Matt staying behind was weird. I know he has a new actor next season so maybe it has something to do with it, I don't know.

I'm hyped though.
Yeah its heavily rumored that since the actor who played Mat straight ghosted and quit the show they just cut him out and thats why the dagger stuff was so rushed.

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white barret
12/10/21 8:56:43 AM
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Hes been recasted already for next season

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g0ldie
12/10/21 8:58:13 AM
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it took me the longest to recognize the False Dragon dude - it's the Professor from Money Heist!

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white barret
12/10/21 9:01:26 AM
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g0ldie posted...
it took me the longest to recognize the False Dragon dude - it's the Professor from Money Heist!
That laugh scene he had in this show was great lol

Also I thought wed get something more this episode from him that woulda been so awesome but goes into book spoilers

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Shotgunnova
12/10/21 12:09:01 PM
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Are you talking about the scene where he laughs in Mat's weird vision/daydream? Never seen that dude before, but he has such an intense look, he steals pretty much every scene he's in.

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white barret
12/10/21 12:24:41 PM
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Shotgunnova posted...
Are you talking about the scene where he laughs in Mat's weird vision/daydream? Never seen that dude before, but he has such an intense look, he steals pretty much every scene he's in.
Hes Logain, hes the guy who claimed to be the Dragon Reborn earlier.

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Fade2black001
12/10/21 12:30:29 PM
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Never heard of this show

Is it good?

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Compsognathus
12/10/21 12:35:48 PM
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white barret posted...
Mat and the dagger legit bothered me

Episodes of build up, and Moiraine is like stupid boy and its done in a two minute scene
Spoilers through the Great Hunt:
Obviously the nature of adapting plots for a show means somethings will be abbreviated or cut. And frankly having Mat's TGH plot of "whining and moaning for an entire book" is perfectly fine by me.

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Shotgunnova
12/10/21 12:41:50 PM
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white barret posted...
Hes Logain, hes the guy who claimed to be the Dragon Reborn earlier.
I meant I'd never seen him in any other media. I know who he is in the show. :P

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WrkHrdPlayHrdr
12/10/21 12:49:16 PM
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Fade2black001 posted...
Never heard of this show

Is it good?

If you like fantasy stuff with magic and wizards and shit, yes. It's still on it's first season so they are still doing some lore building. Also the CGI can be hit or miss sometimes and apparently it's because of Covid and they couldn't do as well remotely. But it's already been renewed for Seasons 2 and 3 so it will be around for a little while. I expect production values to jump some too with the new seasons.

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white barret
12/10/21 12:54:01 PM
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Fade2black001 posted...
Never heard of this show

Is it good?
Its one of my fav fantasy book series ever besides Harry Potter and A Song of Ice And Fire)

oh and its complete unlike ASOIAF

It has the potential to be great but we shall see

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ScazarMeltex
12/10/21 12:58:25 PM
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UnicornRaline posted...
It's been kinda bugging me that they skipped two whole cities from the books so far.
It's about pacing I think. Neither city plays much function in the overall narrative of the first book. Caemlyn is important only because of the people that he meets there, but those don't have to happen there, or even happen till later because the relationships don't form until much later. And because they keep hitting on how important Tar Vallon and the White Tower are you have to show those to the viewers to drive it home. You've only got 8 episodes, so we condense. I don't have to care for it, but I get why they did it.

The stuff with Matt is odd for sure but he doesn't really become a good character till about a third of the way through book 3, the rest up till then is matt bitching and being kind of evil off and on because of the dagger.

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white barret
12/11/21 8:43:33 AM
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So for non book readers, who is your favorite character so far and why?

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3PiesAndAFork
12/11/21 8:49:02 AM
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Now they're moving too quickly. This series could do with 10 episode seasons.

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indica
12/11/21 8:52:06 AM
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Shotgunnova posted...
I meant I'd never seen him in any other media. I know who he is in the show. :P
Are you talking about the fake dragon dude in your topic pic? (I've never read the books) The actor is in the wildly popular Spanish show "Casa de Papel" or "Money Heist" is the English name of it I think. Pretty good show, obviously nothing like this.

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white barret
12/11/21 8:52:59 AM
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3PiesAndAFork posted...
Now they're moving too quickly. This series could do with 10 episode seasons.
I dont mind them rushing through the first book, but yeah there was one particular event that irritates me why they rushed it, but I did find out there was a real life reason for it

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Shotgunnova
12/11/21 8:59:52 AM
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indica posted...
Are you talking about the fake dragon dude in your topic pic? (I've never read the books) The actor is in the wildly popular Spanish show "Casa de Papel" or "Money Heist" is the English name of it I think. Pretty good show, obviously nothing like this.
Never seen it.

white barret posted...
So for non book readers, who is your favorite character so far and why?
Egwene is a QT3.14 with a firm stabbin' hand, so I gotta go with her.

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white barret
12/11/21 9:11:39 AM
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Shotgunnova posted...
Never seen it.

Egwene is a QT3.14 with a firm stabbin' hand, so I gotta go with her.
Money Heist is actually on my list, heard its good but idk when Ill get around to watching it, shows on the list get delayed, like I just finished Invincible, which is pretty awesome btw.

Lol and I like Egwene, she dont take no mess. In the show I think my favorites have been her and Perrin, they had a good chemistry as actors in their traveling with the Tinkers portion.

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ROBANN_88
12/11/21 2:10:36 PM
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book spoilers
i am wondering how they're gonna get the Dagger into Padan fains hands now, since now it's probably in some Tar valon storage room rather than in the Horns chest

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Shotgunnova
12/12/21 7:09:32 PM
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Yeah, Egwene and Perrin are pretty good together. I thought that, with Rand away, she might start falling for that big ol' hunka wolfin' love, but it looks like that ain't happening. If he has some kind of non-One Power power, I'm curious what it'd be. I don't think they've said there's any other power out there (omitted for time constraints?), and "One Power" already kinda seems definitive, haha.

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V-E-G-Y-
12/12/21 7:13:10 PM
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Never heard of dis show but da topic title brings me back some good tv memories

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Shotgunnova
12/12/21 7:13:34 PM
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No, I read the first book, decades ago. That's how I remembered (minor book spoilers) something chased the group out of Two Rivers from the air.

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Shotgunnova
12/12/21 7:14:57 PM
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V-E-G-Y- posted...
Never heard of dis show but da topic title brings me back some good tv memories
Remembering those Walking Dead topics only brings pain and agony now.

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Medussa
12/12/21 7:15:33 PM
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Shotgunnova posted...
No, I read the first book, decades ago. That's how I remembered (minor book spoilers) something chased the group out of Two Rivers from the air.

yeah. another minion of the dark, like the trollocs and fade we've seen. Draghar. kind of a mix between a vampire and a siren. but they only show up a couple times in the whole series, so probably not the worst thing to just drop.

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Shotgunnova
12/12/21 7:20:52 PM
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I don't have many other memories of the first book. The scenes where everyone is sleeping (after the ferry) and Rand is angsting, and sheltering in that shadow-filled city, kinda ring a bell, but that's about it.

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white barret
12/14/21 8:08:13 AM
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AAAAAAAAHHHHHHH @Shotgunnova you havent heard of the leaks have you?

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Shotgunnova
12/14/21 8:41:19 AM
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No, and I don't wanna hear 'em. :P

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