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FortuneCookie
12/07/21 11:01:14 AM
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Let's say Disney's first choice for director of Episode X posted this on Twitter as a public response. There's no script yet and no cast. The director won't budge. The protagonist is a Black male or Disney finds a new director.

Do you think Disney would acquiesce? Would they find a new director and go with a White female protagonist? Would they find a new director and go with a Black female protagonist? Or would they go with a male protagonist of another ethnic group?
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CyricZ
12/07/21 11:03:13 AM
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I would say "I don't want Episode X".

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SSJ2GrimReaper
12/07/21 11:04:27 AM
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they'll do what they did with finn from the sequel trilogy and start him out as a main protagonist then turn him into comic relief black best friend side character

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Guide
12/07/21 11:05:03 AM
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That's a stupid and racist notion to work on

BUT

a Mace Windu origin story would be the best fucking thing

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FortuneCookie
12/07/21 11:05:54 AM
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It's just a matter of time before Episode X.

Disney didn't build a Star Wars land at Hollywood Studios and a $1,000 per night Star Wars hotel only to let the franchise quietly fade or be kept alive by humble streaming offerings. A series set thirty years after the events of Episode IX will be an ample opportunity for a soft reboot.
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EndOfDiscOne
12/07/21 11:06:12 AM
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Guide posted...
a Mace Windu origin story would be the best fucking thing
Read Shatterpoint

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Were_Wyrm
12/07/21 11:06:20 AM
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Sorry best I can do is a wookie

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lolife67
12/07/21 11:06:33 AM
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Depends on the director and how much clout/pull they have in the industry. Them saying this publicly would also make execs think twice about replacing him, as that'd be seen as blatantly racist and be horrible PR.

I don't really think Disney would be so against the idea that they'd replace a director, though. Why would they be?
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Tom Clark
12/07/21 11:07:11 AM
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The statement itself would be stupid, but Finn got done dirty in the sequel trilogy, so a movie where he could take a more central role would be something I would be interested in.

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FortuneCookie
12/07/21 11:07:18 AM
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SSJ2GrimReaper posted...
they'll do what they did with finn from the sequel trilogy and start him out as a main protagonist then turn him into comic relief black best friend side character

Finn was never the protagonist. He was third place behind Rey and Han.
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FortuneCookie
12/07/21 11:10:40 AM
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jeffhardyb0yz posted...
Disney has fired D&D and Rian Johnson. They wouldn't budge to these demands.

That's why I mentioned Twitter.

Once it's out there in the public that a director will only do the movie if the protagonist is a Black male, Disney faces public opinion. Do they go with a White lead? Do they outdo the director for inclusiveness and have a Black female lead? Or do they go with a male lead but make him Asian or Latino?

That's the real question. What would Disney do if someone publicly put them on the spot like that?
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CyricZ
12/07/21 11:10:51 AM
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Guide posted...
a Mace Windu origin story would be the best fucking thing
Why?

FortuneCookie posted...
It's just a matter of time before Episode X.

Disney didn't build a Star Wars land at Hollywood Studios and a $1,000 per night Star Wars hotel only to let the franchise quietly fade or be kept alive by humble streaming offerings. A series set thirty years after the events of Episode IX will be an ample opportunity for a soft reboot.
The very nature of "soft reboot" is to state that making an Episode X is a bad idea.

Star Wars movies, fine. I'm honestly still cautiously looking forward to Rogue Squadron (which is apparently back on the menu).

But I'm very much against an "Episode X". The Skywalker Saga is over.

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UndefeatedGOAT
12/07/21 11:12:02 AM
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They should have let Boyega use his real accent

its kind of racist that they didnt think a brit sounds black enough
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Guide
12/07/21 11:13:07 AM
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CyricZ posted...
Why?
Because Mace is the least bullshit-tolerant of all Jedi. He'll go for the fucking force choke.

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Gobstoppers12
12/07/21 11:14:51 AM
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I don't think there's a director alive with enough clout to threaten Disney lol

But I don't see why this would be a big deal, regardless. It's not like Disney is known for its lack of diversity these days.

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Smiffwilm
12/07/21 11:17:01 AM
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Finn got robbed, 'character development'-wise.

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Fony
12/07/21 11:18:37 AM
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I don't want to see any more of my brothers destroyed by Disney. I actually hope there's not even one black extra in the next one. Maybe if the lead writer was also black and not one of these "new blacks" from Twitter.

FYI, quick aside. Remember Pharell Williams coining new black?

https://www.thedailybeast.com/common-pharrell-and-the-new-black-an-ignorant-mentality-that-undermines-the-black-experience

How he was not blaming racism, blah blah blah?

Well google Pharell williams now. He is crying to the media because his cousin, a legal gun owner was gunned down like a dog by police because he drew his pistol in self defense in the vacinity of an active shooting.

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CyricZ
12/07/21 11:19:37 AM
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Guide posted...
Because Mace is the least bullshit-tolerant of all Jedi. He'll go for the fucking force choke.
Windu swallowed all kinds of BS in the PT and never actually Force-choked anyone.

I mean if you want a movie that's just Samuel L. Jackson wielding a lightsaber, ask for that, but that's not who Mace Windu the character is.

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SSJ2GrimReaper
12/07/21 11:20:09 AM
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Smiffwilm posted...
Finn got robbed, 'character development'-wise.
they did nothing with his ex stormtrooper background and alledged force sensitivity and just decided to turn him into kevin hart in space

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NoxObscuras
12/07/21 11:22:08 AM
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I don't think the director would have to give an ultimatum like that. They'd be able to steer the movie in the direction they want anyway.

Maybe they could continue the story with Finn now getting some training. He's definitely force sensitive.

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Guide
12/07/21 11:28:00 AM
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CyricZ posted...

Okay, my bad. He used force crush.

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CyricZ
12/07/21 11:30:09 AM
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Guide posted...
Okay, my bad. He used force crush.
Not in anything canon.

Yes I love the Genndy Tartakovsky Clone Wars miniseries, too, but it was declared non-canon long before Disney came along.

Also you can't just make an entire movie about Mace Windu soloing a bunch of battle droids.

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Guide
12/07/21 12:11:45 PM
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CyricZ posted...
but it was declared non-canon long before Disney came along.

Caring: No one! The canon warps to whatever benefits business, and has nothing to do with my badass Mace Windu fantasies.

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CyricZ
12/07/21 12:22:21 PM
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Guide posted...
Caring: No one! The canon warps to whatever benefits business, and has nothing to do with my badass Mace Windu fantasies.
And your fantasies are certainly valid.

But they're not going to be made into a movie.

The nickel has been spent on Mace Windu.

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Gobstoppers12
12/07/21 12:24:55 PM
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Guide posted...
Caring: No one! The canon warps to whatever benefits business, and has nothing to do with my badass Mace Windu fantasies.
I consider the 2003 clone wars to be the better version of the story. It's got the only version of Grievous who's a true badass.

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Guide
12/07/21 12:28:53 PM
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Gobstoppers12 posted...
I consider the 2003 clone wars to be the better version of the story. It's got the only version of Grievous who's a true badass.

Right! Fuckin, he has one good scene in literally all of the movies, but he's a proper felon in 03.

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HylianFox
12/07/21 12:42:48 PM
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I just want a Finn/Poe buddy pic/bromance

SSJ2GrimReaper posted...
they did nothing with his ex stormtrooper background and alledged force sensitivity and just decided to turn him into kevin hart in space

indeed

hmm... I wonder if Jedi use the force in any sort of auto-erotic capacity?
all this talk of force chokes and crushing has got my gears turning

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Guide
12/07/21 1:13:20 PM
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HylianFox posted...
I just want a Finn/Poe buddy pic/bromance

indeed

hmm... I wonder if Jedi use the force in any sort of auto-erotic capacity?
all this talk of force chokes and crushing has got my gears turning

That's sith talk.

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Scotty_Rogers
12/07/21 1:15:15 PM
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Imagine a Star Wars movie directed by Ryan Coogler starring Michael B Jordan

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InfinityMonster
12/07/21 1:20:24 PM
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Lots of reports indicate that the story team and KK don't really compromise when it comes to these types of decisions. If they want or don't want something, and the director is going against them, they have no problem letting them go. As seen by the countless "creative difference" exits we've had in the past few years.

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Ving_Rhames
12/07/21 1:23:17 PM
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Smiffwilm posted...
Finn got robbed, 'character development'-wise.

All of the ST characters did. Finn and Poe the hardest though. Rey didnt really have a character to develop, just obstacles that didnt matter.

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Gainerama
12/07/21 1:24:29 PM
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Shouldn't be too hard, Mace and Lando are both kick ass characters that deserve origin stories.
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Scotty_Rogers
12/07/21 1:27:40 PM
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Just stop milking Star Wars and create a new sci-fi/space opera/whatever the fuck franchise with a black cast

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DJquackquack
12/07/21 1:33:27 PM
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Tom Clark posted...
The statement itself would be stupid, but Finn got done dirty in the sequel trilogy, so a movie where he could take a more central role would be something I would be interested in.
Agreed

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JimmyFraska
12/07/21 3:00:03 PM
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They wouldn't acquiesce to a director who's putting himself out there so heavily on social media; the biggest directors that they would acquiesce to, don't do that, and usually don't even have social media.

They would let him say that if that was already their plan, though.
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FortuneCookie
12/07/21 3:09:30 PM
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InfinityMonster posted...
Lots of reports indicate that the story team and KK don't really compromise when it comes to these types of decisions. If they want or don't want something, and the director is going against them, they have no problem letting them go. As seen by the countless "creative difference" exits we've had in the past few years.

Ick.

Guess that answers that.
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12/07/21 3:34:57 PM
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Everyonedies
12/07/21 4:07:56 PM
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Won't happen because China doesn't like black protogantist and Disney wants their money. They even cut Finn off the posters of the movies he was in and the dude wasn't even the lead.

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lolife67
12/07/21 4:12:50 PM
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Everyonedies posted...
Won't happen because China doesn't like black protogantist and Disney wants their money.
Lol not anymore.
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