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Ysmir 12/03/21 4:37:37 PM #1: |
https://thehill.com/policy/defense/584091-ap-hundreds-of-us-military-explosives-stolen-lost
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DarthAragorn 12/03/21 4:41:04 PM #2: |
There's no white supremacist problem in the US, the cops would have done something about it if there were
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SSJPurple 12/03/21 4:44:13 PM #3: |
And this brings me back to that timeless Chris Rock quote.
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iPhone_7 12/03/21 4:49:03 PM #4: |
The reason those explosives havent been used in all this time is probably cause those white supremacists died of meth overdoses.
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treewojima 12/03/21 4:50:24 PM #5: |
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berlyman101 12/03/21 4:50:27 PM #6: |
I sure hope it's more military enthusiasts jamming them up their butts.
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Ysmir 12/05/21 11:19:34 PM #7: |
One more bump
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TheChariot 12/05/21 11:43:40 PM #8: |
Wish one of them wound up in my possession. I always wanted to see something go BOOM!
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Pogo_Marimo 12/05/21 11:58:10 PM #9: |
Weird to tie this to white supremacists when most of this is probably just ol' boys stealing them to detonate in some backwoods for entertainment or just plain clerical error and people covering their asses. Y'all need to stop with the doomsaying all the time.
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Ysmir 12/06/21 12:17:58 AM #10: |
Pogo_Marimo posted...
Weird to tie this to white supremacists when most of this is probably just ol' boys stealing them to detonate in some backwoods for entertainment or just plain clerical error and people covering their asses. Y'all need to stop with the doomsaying all the time.The person tweeting that is a historian of white power movements...? --- The artist formerly known as the artist formerly known as the artist formerly known as the artist formerly known as the artist formerly known as RebelElite791. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Pogo_Marimo 12/06/21 1:01:01 AM #11: |
Ysmir posted...
The person tweeting that is a historian of white power movements...?And? A historian drew a parallel to something that happened 40 years ago? How is that proof or evidence of anything at all? Do you think munitions disappearing from the military is something new? Do you think it happened once in the 80s and now once again in the last decade? The U.S. military is a gigantic organization that is constantly losing track of munitions and materiel on account of bureaucracy and corruption. Not every instance of something going missing is because "this boogeyman did it". Being a historian means using evidence based reasoning to reach conclusions. There is no evidence currently that any substantial amount of military-grade explosives is going to white supremacists groups planning a race war. It's pure speculation. Let's use a bit of critical reasoning here:
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Ysmir 12/06/21 1:06:31 AM #12: |
Lmao this dude's literally calling a historian who has made these subjects her life's work a "fearmongerer and doomsayer." Get a fucking grip, jesus.
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darkprince45 12/06/21 1:06:44 AM #13: |
wait hold on, I just read the article
In response to the data, Defense officials said only a small minority of service members have stolen explosives and that the amount of those lost or stolen is tiny when compared to overall armament stockpiles. Where is this connection to white supremacy? I never saw a reference? Are we under the assumption that because some military members lost stuff in the 80s. That the KKK is gonna start some massive civil with a land mine from the 1980s??? Im seriously confused --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Atralis 12/06/21 1:11:04 AM #14: |
In a country with more than 300 million civilian owned firearms out in the wild..... meh?
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Pogo_Marimo 12/06/21 9:35:20 AM #15: |
Ysmir posted...
Lmao this dude's literally calling a historian who has made these subjects her life's work a "fearmongerer and doomsayer." Get a fucking grip, jesus.Appeal to authority. As someone who has invested a tremendous amount of time into the study of history as well, I can assure you that historians are far from infallible,n especially when it comes to predicting the future. --- 'Cause you know that I have no fear, ain't gonna walk into the river and disappear. I'm gonna be a powerful man. Red blood running down the broken sand. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Doom_Art 12/06/21 9:38:09 AM #16: |
Pogo_Marimo posted...
Appeal to authority.You can't just throw out terms and expect that to win an argument for you lol Pogo_Marimo posted... As someone who has invested a tremendous amount of time into the study of history as well Reading wikipedia isn't studying history lol --- Not removing this until Mega Man 64 is released on the Wii Virtual Console. Started on: 12/1/2009 https://imgur.com/mPvcy ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Pogo_Marimo 12/06/21 9:44:43 AM #17: |
Doom_Art posted...
You can't just throw out terms and expect that to win an argument for you lol Have I? I already wrote a post summarizing the history of military munitions used in White Supremacist terrorism within the last 5 decades (None), then defined three different logical approaches as to why that is. Why are you criticizing for shallow arguments when the extent of TC's arguments are, "Someone on twitter asserted it without evidence so it must be true!" Reading wikipedia isn't studying history lol You know so much about me, wow. You and TC WOULD get along, you both like baseless assertions. --- 'Cause you know that I have no fear, ain't gonna walk into the river and disappear. I'm gonna be a powerful man. Red blood running down the broken sand. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Ysmir 12/06/21 10:15:39 AM #18: |
Pogo_Marimo posted...
Appeal to authority. As someone who has invested a tremendous amount of time into the study of history as well, I can assure you that historians are far from infallible,n especially when it comes to predicting the future...LMAO --- The artist formerly known as the artist formerly known as the artist formerly known as the artist formerly known as the artist formerly known as RebelElite791. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Pogo_Marimo 12/06/21 10:23:13 AM #19: |
God, you suck at arguing.
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monkmith 12/06/21 10:23:59 AM #20: |
Pogo_Marimo posted...
And? A historian drew a parallel to something that happened 40 years ago? How is that proof or evidence of anything at all? --- Taarsidath-an halsaam. Quando il gioco e finito, il re e il pedone vanno nella stessa scatola ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Pogo_Marimo 12/06/21 10:26:01 AM #21: |
Can literally anyone actually refute what I said? This is getting a bit silly now.
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Ysmir 12/06/21 10:26:07 AM #22: |
Pogo_Marimo posted...
God, you suck at arguing.Ive read a lot of history so im basically as qualified as a historian is not worth engaging seriously with --- The artist formerly known as the artist formerly known as the artist formerly known as the artist formerly known as the artist formerly known as RebelElite791. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Foppe 12/06/21 10:29:28 AM #23: |
They have lost what, 8 nukes officially?
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monkmith 12/06/21 10:31:10 AM #24: |
Pogo_Marimo posted...
Can literally anyone actually refute what I said? This is getting a bit silly now. --- Taarsidath-an halsaam. Quando il gioco e finito, il re e il pedone vanno nella stessa scatola ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Pogo_Marimo 12/06/21 10:49:34 AM #25: |
Ysmir posted...
Ive read a lot of history so im basically as qualified as a historian is not worth engaging seriously withThat's not what I said, but I appreciate the attempt to besmirch my character instead of engaging my arguments. A true gentlemen's approach to debate. Tell me, since you seem to trust the conclusions of Kathleen Belew so much, I would presume you've founded this trust based on a review of her previous work. What did you find so impressive about her research at the University of Chicago that drew you to her? What in her new book really spoke to you about the thoroughness of her approach? Because, I mean, pfft, surely you didn't just see a tweet from someone on the internet and believe it out of hand? Why, the only reason someone would do something so blatantly stupid would be if said tweet was provocative and bias-confirming enough that it excited you beyond your temperance to apply critical thinking first. Not all historians are good, and not all good historians are right all the time. You are doing no one any favors by believing the account of one person so completely, especially when the account is by all metrics purely speculative. You are not supporting the fight against white supremacy. You are supporting fear mongering. I mean, there is actually zero evidence that she provides to support her implications. None. I hope that is abundantly clear to you, at least. --- 'Cause you know that I have no fear, ain't gonna walk into the river and disappear. I'm gonna be a powerful man. Red blood running down the broken sand. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Doom_Art 12/06/21 10:52:41 AM #26: |
Pogo_Marimo posted...
That's not what I saidThat's exactly what you said lol Pogo_Marimo posted... Tell me, since you seem to trust the conclusions of Kathleen Belew so much, I would presume you've founded this trust based on a review of her previous work. What did you find so impressive about her research at the University of Chicago that drew you to her? What in her new book really spoke to you about the thoroughness of her approach?Oh damn, our boy can Google! --- Not removing this until Mega Man 64 is released on the Wii Virtual Console. Started on: 12/1/2009 https://imgur.com/mPvcy ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Pogo_Marimo 12/06/21 10:53:45 AM #27: |
monkmith posted...
I'm looking for discourse, and I guess my mistake was coming to a message board for that. Lord forbid people defend their claims or be held accountable for their baseless comments. --- 'Cause you know that I have no fear, ain't gonna walk into the river and disappear. I'm gonna be a powerful man. Red blood running down the broken sand. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Pogo_Marimo 12/06/21 10:57:44 AM #29: |
shockthemonkey posted...
Maybe you should realize no one cares to write a thesis to you, a stranger trying to downplay reality.Do you care about reality? Can someone at least answer me this: Do you actually care if she's correct or not? --- 'Cause you know that I have no fear, ain't gonna walk into the river and disappear. I'm gonna be a powerful man. Red blood running down the broken sand. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Doom_Art 12/06/21 10:57:45 AM #30: |
Seriously lol
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Pogo_Marimo 12/06/21 11:07:28 AM #32: |
I'm not going to be shamed for seeking veracity, but feel free to think what you want. If your concern is with petty things like grandstanding some false superiority over me instead engaging with an honest debate about critically analyzing statements in the era of social media, then I am comfortable with ignoring your criticisms. With over 30 posts and no good faith arguments, I've said my piece and I'll leave it at that.
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Doom_Art 12/06/21 11:09:15 AM #33: |
god why does every dude like this sound like they're vomiting up a thesaurus
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Ysmir 12/06/21 11:19:01 AM #34: |
Shit like this is a direct result of the kind of mentality that drove CableZL to meltdown for 200 posts about how Youtube is a real education just as much as higher ed is
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