Current Events > Almost all stores in downtown San Francisco being boarded up.

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ShineboxPhil 12/03/21 11:11:35 PM #104:	Lol at boarding up a Zara and thinking that is luxury. --- https://imgur.com/gallery/SGyTfGm https://imgur.com/gallery/9mJroQV <cite>ShineboxPhil posted [p:960603701] in Almost all... [t:79793360]...</cite> <quote>Lol at boarding up a Zara and thinking that is luxury. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
lilORANG 12/03/21 11:13:25 PM #105:	3 pages in and not a bit of context. --- #FeelTheBern https://imgur.com/q5z4CUu https://imgur.com/6B9oFXh https://imgur.com/sy42Dlf <cite>lilORANG posted [p:960603745] in Almost all... [t:79793360]...</cite> <quote>3 pages in and not a bit of context.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
FortuneCookie 12/03/21 11:16:30 PM #106:	Doom_Art posted... bOtH sIdEs GuYz One should criticize both sides. Acting like Democrats should be untouchable is like saying you're not allowed to criticize police because cartels are worse. <cite>FortuneCookie posted [p:960603815] in Almost all... [t:79793360]...</cite> <quote>Doom_Art posted... </cite> <quote>bOtH sIdEs GuYz</quote> One should criticize both sides. Acting like Democrats should be untouchable is like saying you're not allowed to criticize police because cartels are worse. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Bishop9800 12/03/21 11:22:10 PM #107:	Ysmir posted... Isn't it funny how every conservative on CE magically lives in LA or SF and totally hates CA. Pretty much --- There are enough attention whores on CE as it is. <cite>Bishop9800 posted [p:960603954] in Almost all... [t:79793360]...</cite> <quote>Ysmir posted... </cite> <quote>Isn't it funny how every conservative on CE magically lives in LA or SF and totally hates CA.</quote> Pretty much </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
iPhone_7 12/03/21 11:46:11 PM #108:	Stalolin posted... @Houston the second example does seem to exaggerate - the first post however appears true. Here it is with sources. https://theappeal.org/retail-theft-ben-dugan-cvs-walgreens-shoplifting/ The number of reported shopliftings is down because stores stop bothering to call police because its such a **ing waste of time. The shoplifters are almost always long gone and even if caught its a misdemeanor, which means they dont give a f* if the person misses their court date because it just means more time wasted & paperwork over a misdemeanor. Police responding to our store would sometimes explain some of this stuff, prop 47, and pretty much end it with it is what it is, just stay safe. And sometimes it would be an officer whod be annoyed or pissed off that they had to respond to our store again. We just stopped calling unless it was a big hit or stuff was trashed (like whenever they smashed in the glass cabinet with the perfume & cologne). And two weeks after the George Floyd incident we were told the company changed the policy so that we no longer had to interact with shoplifters in any way, just notify management. No more soft-stops, no more asking if they needed help (as if we didnt **ing notice theyre shoplifting right in front us). EDIT: Found this, it seems like what one of the officers explained to us. Newsom has repeatedly said prosecutors can "stack" multiple misdemeanor thefts into a felony charge. But Pierson, the district attorney, said that "reveals a significant misunderstanding of the law in the wake of Prop. 47." Subsequent court decisions require that the repeated thefts involve the same victim and conduct eventually amounting to a loss exceeding $950, which Pierson said "is very difficult to prove." "The law here in California is very clear we cannot simply stack petty thefts into a felony," he said. --- Sig User Logic https://imgur.com/lA5fm7w <cite>iPhone_7 posted [p:960604469] in Almost all... [t:79793360]...</cite> <quote>Stalolin posted... </cite> <quote>@Houston the second example does seem to exaggerate - the first post however appears true. Here it is with sources. https://theappeal.org/retail-theft-ben-dugan-cvs-walgreens-shoplifting/</quote> The number of reported shopliftings is down because stores stop bothering to call police because its such a ing waste of time. The shoplifters are almost always long gone and even if caught its a misdemeanor, which means they dont give a f* if the person misses their court date because it just means more time wasted & paperwork over a misdemeanor. Police responding to our store would sometimes explain some of this stuff, prop 47, and pretty much end it with it is what it is, just stay safe. And sometimes it would be an officer whod be annoyed or pissed off that they had to respond to our store again. We just stopped calling unless it was a big hit or stuff was trashed (like whenever they smashed in the glass cabinet with the perfume & cologne). And two weeks after the George Floyd incident we were told the company changed the policy so that we no longer had to interact with shoplifters in any way, just notify management. No more soft-stops, no more asking if they needed help (as if we didnt ****ing notice theyre shoplifting right in front us). EDIT: Found this, it seems like what one of the officers explained to us. <quote>Newsom has repeatedly said prosecutors can "stack" multiple misdemeanor thefts into a felony charge. But Pierson, the district attorney, said that "reveals a significant misunderstanding of the law in the wake of Prop. 47." Subsequent court decisions require that the repeated thefts involve the same victim and conduct eventually amounting to a loss exceeding $950, which Pierson said "is very difficult to prove." "The law here in California is very clear we cannot simply stack petty thefts into a felony," he said.</quote> </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Stalolin 12/04/21 12:06:32 AM #109:	iPhone_7 posted... The number of reported shopliftings is down because stores stop bothering to call police because its such a **ing waste of time. wouldnt luxury brand chain stores need to report it for insurance? --- "Our selves are something we create, not discover." <cite>Stalolin posted [p:960604939] in Almost all... [t:79793360]...</cite> <quote>iPhone_7 posted... </cite> <quote>The number of reported shopliftings is down because stores stop bothering to call police because its such a **ing waste of time. </quote> wouldnt luxury brand chain stores need to report it for insurance? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
iPhone_7 12/04/21 12:10:17 AM #110:	Stalolin posted... wouldnt luxury brand chain stores need to report it for insurance? I assume so >_> --- Sig User Logic https://imgur.com/lA5fm7w <cite>iPhone_7 posted [p:960605030] in Almost all... [t:79793360]...</cite> <quote>Stalolin posted... </cite> <quote>wouldnt luxury brand chain stores need to report it for insurance?</quote>I assume so >_> </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Houston 12/04/21 12:46:58 AM #111:	It's becoming quite obvious certain people on CE can't or won't defend this or even give their honest input on the matter. The actions of the looters are bad. This is bad behavior. This is not normal. This is not just part of "living in a big city". Something is clearly wrong in CA right now, and if anyone says otherwise, I'd love to hear their input. --- "Sometimes you will never know the value of a moment until it becomes a memory." - Dr Seuss <cite>Houston posted [p:960605679] in Almost all... [t:79793360]...</cite> <quote>It's becoming quite obvious certain people on CE can't or won't defend this or even give their honest input on the matter. The actions of the looters are bad. This is bad behavior. This is not normal. This is not just part of "living in a big city". Something is clearly wrong in CA right now, and if anyone says otherwise, I'd love to hear their input. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Questionmarktarius 12/04/21 12:55:40 AM #112:	Houston posted... This is bad behavior. This is not normal. This is not just part of "living in a big city". Something is clearly wrong in CA right now, and if anyone says otherwise, I'd love to hear their input. I'd like to take this opportunity to recommend Leon Trotsky's book. https://www.marxists.org/archive/trotsky/1936/revbet/ Trotsky explains how capitalism works, and why Marxism falls apart. <cite>Questionmarktarius posted [p:960605828] in Almost all... [t:79793360]...</cite> <quote>Houston posted... </cite> <quote>This is bad behavior. This is not normal. This is not just part of "living in a big city". Something is clearly wrong in CA right now, and if anyone says otherwise, I'd love to hear their input.</quote>I'd like to take this opportunity to recommend Leon Trotsky's book. https://www.marxists.org/archive/trotsky/1936/revbet/ Trotsky explains how capitalism works, and why Marxism falls apart. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ModLogic 12/04/21 12:57:18 AM #113:	PatrickMahomes posted... is this because of that weird looting rule where they wont arrest you for stealing under $500 or w/e? lmfao what kind of morons decided that was a good idea --- https://youtu.be/l-iLiNCScno https://imgur.com/ZngbqJn https://imgur.com/lbSi0U3 https://imgur.com/xaRYKZM <cite>ModLogic posted [p:960605850] in Almost all... [t:79793360]...</cite> <quote>PatrickMahomes posted... </cite> <quote>is this because of that weird looting rule where they wont arrest you for stealing under $500 or w/e?</quote>lmfao what kind of morons decided that was a good idea </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Solid Snake07 12/04/21 1:01:42 AM #114:	Over under for when locals get fed up and go the New York route and stop appointing anti law enforcement dipshits to positions of influence? This shit is why trump is probably gonna be president again. --- "People incapable of guilt usually do have a good time" -Detective Rust Cohle <cite>Solid Snake07 posted [p:960605914] in Almost all... [t:79793360]...</cite> <quote>Over under for when locals get fed up and go the New York route and stop appointing anti law enforcement dipshits to positions of influence? This shit is why trump is probably gonna be president again. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Questionmarktarius 12/04/21 1:03:49 AM #115:	Solid Snake07 posted... Over under for when locals get fed up and go the New York route and stop appointing anti law enforcement dipshits to positions of influence? KCMO is somehow both simultaneously right now <cite>Questionmarktarius posted [p:960605942] in Almost all... [t:79793360]...</cite> <quote>Solid Snake07 posted... </cite> <quote>Over under for when locals get fed up and go the New York route and stop appointing anti law enforcement dipshits to positions of influence?</quote>KCMO is somehow both simultaneously right now </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
archedsoul 12/04/21 1:06:11 AM #116:	I feel like this type of stuff just gives Republicans an easy way to grab power. Long Island in NY got fucked pretty hard this past election. Long time Democrat DAs for both counties were replaced by relatively unknown Republicans. Simply because they ran on "bail reform bad". --- "Fear cuts deeper than swords." <cite>archedsoul posted [p:960605977] in Almost all... [t:79793360]...</cite> <quote>I feel like this type of stuff just gives Republicans an easy way to grab power. Long Island in NY got fucked pretty hard this past election. Long time Democrat DAs for both counties were replaced by relatively unknown Republicans. Simply because they ran on "bail reform bad". </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Questionmarktarius 12/04/21 1:10:28 AM #117:	archedsoul posted... "bail reform bad". The "Ayn Rand loon" perspective on this is that there shouldn't be bail. If you fucked someone else up, or stole some shit, or wrecked some shit, you're waiting in jail. <cite>Questionmarktarius posted [p:960606047] in Almost all... [t:79793360]...</cite> <quote>archedsoul posted... </cite> <quote>"bail reform bad".</quote>The "Ayn Rand loon" perspective on this is that there shouldn't be bail. If you fucked someone else up, or stole some shit, or wrecked some shit, you're waiting in jail. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ButteryMales 12/04/21 1:28:34 AM #118:	Who ran on "bail reform bad"? <cite>ButteryMales posted [p:960606337] in Almost all... [t:79793360]...</cite> <quote>Who ran on "bail reform bad"?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Questionmarktarius 12/04/21 1:29:44 AM #119:	ButteryMales posted... Who ran on "bail reform bad"? Richard Nixon <cite>Questionmarktarius posted [p:960606357] in Almost all... [t:79793360]...</cite> <quote>ButteryMales posted... </cite> <quote>Who ran on "bail reform bad"?</quote>Richard Nixon </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Stalolin 12/04/21 1:37:20 AM #120:	Houston posted... It's becoming quite obvious certain people on CE can't or won't defend this or even give their honest input on the matter. The actions of the looters are bad. This is bad behavior. This is not normal. This is not just part of "living in a big city". Something is clearly wrong in CA right now, and if anyone says otherwise, I'd love to hear their input. no one would reasonably defend this. My point is that theres no evidence that shows its as widespread as people claim. Yeah, its a big country, it happens, but it doesnt really that happen that often. And theres not one shred of evidence in the original post or in this thread about those specific stores and whats happening with them and why. Its just some rando on Twitter making a bunch of wild claims. --- "Our selves are something we create, not discover." <cite>Stalolin posted [p:960606453] in Almost all... [t:79793360]...</cite> <quote>Houston posted... </cite> <quote>It's becoming quite obvious certain people on CE can't or won't defend this or even give their honest input on the matter. The actions of the looters are bad. This is bad behavior. This is not normal. This is not just part of "living in a big city". Something is clearly wrong in CA right now, and if anyone says otherwise, I'd love to hear their input.</quote> no one would reasonably defend this. My point is that theres no evidence that shows its as widespread as people claim. Yeah, its a big country, it happens, but it doesnt really that happen that often. And theres not one shred of evidence in the original post or in this thread about those specific stores and whats happening with them and why. Its just some rando on Twitter making a bunch of wild claims. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Houston 12/04/21 1:51:10 AM #121:	Stalolin posted... no one would reasonably defend this. My point is that theres no evidence that shows its as widespread as people claim. Yeah, its a big country, it happens, but it doesnt really that happen that often. And theres not one shred of evidence in the original post or in this thread about those specific stores and whats happening with them and why. Its just some rando on Twitter making a bunch of wild claims. Are the pictures lying? A bunch of places are just randomly (and suddenly) boarding up? It may not be "widespread" but clearly what has transpired over the past week or so is having an impact. You're really going to take the position of, "We don't really know why stores are boarding up and there's no proof"? My goodness. https://www.businessinsider.com/san-francisco-stores-board-up-windows-smash-grab-thefts-2021-12 https://www.newsweek.com/san-francisco-stores-board-amid-wave-smash-grab-lootings-1655004 https://www.foxnews.com/us/san-francisco-mayor-london-breed-union-square-limiting-access-theft https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2021/nov/15/walgreens-closures-san-francisco-crime-debate --- "Sometimes you will never know the value of a moment until it becomes a memory." - Dr Seuss <cite>Houston posted [p:960606641] in Almost all... [t:79793360]...</cite> <quote>Stalolin posted... </cite> <quote>no one would reasonably defend this. My point is that theres no evidence that shows its as widespread as people claim. Yeah, its a big country, it happens, but it doesnt really that happen that often. And theres not one shred of evidence in the original post or in this thread about those specific stores and whats happening with them and why. Its just some rando on Twitter making a bunch of wild claims.</quote> Are the pictures lying? A bunch of places are just randomly (and suddenly) boarding up? It may not be "widespread" but clearly what has transpired over the past week or so is having an impact. You're really going to take the position of, "We don't really know why stores are boarding up and there's no proof"? My goodness. https://www.businessinsider.com/san-francisco-stores-board-up-windows-smash-grab-thefts-2021-12 https://www.newsweek.com/san-francisco-stores-board-amid-wave-smash-grab-lootings-1655004 https://www.foxnews.com/us/san-francisco-mayor-london-breed-union-square-limiting-access-theft https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2021/nov/15/walgreens-closures-san-francisco-crime-debate </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Questionmarktarius 12/04/21 1:53:05 AM #122:	Stalolin posted... My point is that theres no evidence that shows its as widespread as people claim. Crime has utterly collapsed in the US since the 1970s. This "flashrob" thing is statistically insignificant, but it's just enough of a spike to cause concern. <cite>Questionmarktarius posted [p:960606673] in Almost all... [t:79793360]...</cite> <quote>Stalolin posted... </cite> <quote>My point is that theres no evidence that shows its as widespread as people claim.</quote>Crime has utterly collapsed in the US since the 1970s. This "flashrob" thing is statistically insignificant, but it's just enough of a spike to cause concern. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Vicious_Dios 12/04/21 1:57:27 AM #123:	Ahhhhhh, San Francisco. The bastion of liberal utopia. --- S / K / Y / N / E <cite>Vicious_Dios posted [p:960606746] in Almost all... [t:79793360]...</cite> <quote>Ahhhhhh, San Francisco. The bastion of liberal utopia. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Questionmarktarius 12/04/21 1:58:12 AM #124:	Vicious_Dios posted... The bastion of liberal utopia. Meanwhile, in France... <cite>Questionmarktarius posted [p:960606765] in Almost all... [t:79793360]...</cite> <quote>Vicious_Dios posted... </cite> <quote>The bastion of liberal utopia.</quote>Meanwhile, in France... </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Houston 12/04/21 2:09:58 AM #125:	Vicious_Dios posted... Ahhhhhh, San Francisco. The bastion of liberal utopia. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7I0vkKy504U --- "Sometimes you will never know the value of a moment until it becomes a memory." - Dr Seuss <cite>Houston posted [p:960606909] in Almost all... [t:79793360]...</cite> <quote>Vicious_Dios posted... </cite> <quote>Ahhhhhh, San Francisco. The bastion of liberal utopia.</quote> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7I0vkKy504U </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Stalolin 12/04/21 2:43:59 AM #126:	Houston posted... Are the pictures lying? A bunch of places are just randomly (and suddenly) boarding up? It may not be "widespread" but clearly what has transpired over the past week or so is having an impact. You're really going to take the position of, "We don't really know why stores are boarding up and there's no proof"? My goodness. https://www.businessinsider.com/san-francisco-stores-board-up-windows-smash-grab-thefts-2021-12 https://www.newsweek.com/san-francisco-stores-board-amid-wave-smash-grab-lootings-1655004 https://www.foxnews.com/us/san-francisco-mayor-london-breed-union-square-limiting-access-theft https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2021/nov/15/walgreens-closures-san-francisco-crime-debate to which I would respond https://theappeal.org/retail-theft-ben-dugan-cvs-walgreens-shoplifting/ and I didnt say there was no proof. I said there hasnt been any proof posted about those stores in question. --- "Our selves are something we create, not discover." <cite>Stalolin posted [p:960607328] in Almost all... [t:79793360]...</cite> <quote>Houston posted... </cite> <quote>Are the pictures lying? A bunch of places are just randomly (and suddenly) boarding up? It may not be "widespread" but clearly what has transpired over the past week or so is having an impact. You're really going to take the position of, "We don't really know why stores are boarding up and there's no proof"? My goodness. https://www.businessinsider.com/san-francisco-stores-board-up-windows-smash-grab-thefts-2021-12 https://www.newsweek.com/san-francisco-stores-board-amid-wave-smash-grab-lootings-1655004 https://www.foxnews.com/us/san-francisco-mayor-london-breed-union-square-limiting-access-theft https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2021/nov/15/walgreens-closures-san-francisco-crime-debate</quote>to which I would respond https://theappeal.org/retail-theft-ben-dugan-cvs-walgreens-shoplifting/ and I didnt say there was no proof. I said there hasnt been any proof posted about those stores in question. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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