Current Events > I am actually curious what compels people to make the same movie repeatedly

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Talking about horror, guess it can apply to any genre but there are lots of comedy movies with similar premises that succeed because of the characters and the lines they deliver.

But with horror there are so many "a group of six teens steal away for a weekend of sex and drugs at a wood cabin in the forest only to be stalked by an evil unknown dude" movies out there that don't really do anything different from anything that already exists... Why do people make these?? What are they hoping to accomplish?

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Hexenherz posted...

What are they hoping to accomplish?

A safe enough script to get publisher funding

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This isn't really a new thing tbh. Look at westerns for instance. Completely sucked the genre dry by releasing the same movie over and over, every few weeks the same movie. No genre has been abused as bad as the western. Not even superhero films (which tbh vary way more than westerns).

There are movies that push genres (revisionist films) and there are a shit ton for every genre but most fall under the classical cycle because it's easier and "tried and true". These don't mean they're bad films though. Genre cycles are interesting to study.
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That's a good point. I haven't seen many Westerns unfortunately but I am familiar with many of the tropes and can see how that genre got tanked.

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Horror is a good mention, it's a very shallow genre if you think about it. I don't know how much left there is new to put out there that hasn't been done.

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Hexenherz posted...

That's a good point. I haven't seen many Westerns unfortunately but I am familiar with many of the tropes and can see how that genre got tanked.

The issue is that they were easy and cheap to make and they flooded the market. They were tied with other films (that people wanted to see) when they were sold to theaters. So for every good non-western movie that was released, maybe one or two bad westerns were tied to them in deals. Completely killed the genre until recently. We're in a mini western renaissance.

MabusIncarnate posted...

Horror is a good mention, it's a very shallow genre if you think about it. I don't know how much left there is new to put out there that hasn't been done.

I think there's a lot the horror genre still has to offer. Jordan Peele is doing good stuff. I think the next big horror subgenre will involve class politics in a big way. But American movies tend to not lean into class as hard as Korean or Japanese movies. The Purge movies tried but failed imo.

Also I think Ari Aster and Robert Eggers can both carry the genre on their back for a few years if they choose to do so.
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Yeah I still find horror movies here and that, even indie ones, that do something different, sometimes for the better. But there are just... plenty more meh ones.

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Not sure if you ever saw the first season of Channel Zero, but I like that style of horror, and stuff like Hereditary. It leans more away from a ton of gore and more on thrill an development, some are slow burns. I liked the Peele movies also.

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MabusIncarnate posted...

Not sure if you ever saw the first season of Channel Zero, but I like that style of horror, and stuff like Hereditary. It leans more away from a ton of gore and more on thrill an development, some are slow burns. I liked the Peele movies also.

I do intend to watch Channel Zero. Just finished up American Horror Story season 10 so taking a day or two break from the genre but eventually gonna get back in the saddle.

I keep hearing good things about Hereditary I should just tear off the bandaid and watch it, I loved Midsommar.

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First reason is money

Second has to do with contracts ,a movie studio only has so long to actually make a movie, so if they run into certain issues they typically have to revise or restart a movie. Since doing that for a good movie takes a lot of time, money, and legal stuff, they're incentivised to make something quick, easy and cheap.

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First season of Channel Zero was really great, one of the best horror seasons of any series i've seen. I didn't like the 2nd as much, each season is an entirely different cast and plot, so they were nothing alike. I gotta get to the rest, but let me know when you do get to it.

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Hexenherz posted...

Yeah I still find horror movies here and that, even indie ones, that do something different, sometimes for the better. But there are just... plenty more meh ones.

Yeah, it's because they're cheap and easy to make. Check out Saint Maud or Possessor tho if you want some more recent great horror movies. Both on Hulu.

MabusIncarnate posted...

Not sure if you ever saw the first season of Channel Zero, but I like that style of horror, and stuff like Hereditary. It leans more away from a ton of gore and more on thrill an development, some are slow burns. I liked the Peele movies also.

I think I've seen part of that first season and fell off just cuz of life. Iirc it was some puppet pirate TV show thing right? I liked it. And I loved Hereditary.

Both Hereditary and Midsommar give this feeling of dread in your stomach that horror movies don't really try to do. It's super impressive on the first watch. Makes them hard to watch. I like that lol Possessor fits that same model. Makes you feel gross after watching it.
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I thought Channel Awesome was a great show.

It's really what I thought American Horror Story should have been. Not the creators weird sex fantasies.