Current Events > Message Boards, Projection, and Coherentism

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Does this sound too ambitious?

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so far it sounds too vague

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it doesn't grab me.

i'm not like fuck i gotta read this paper. what's coherentism?

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NonDairyMiltank posted...

so far it sounds too vague

1. People communicate on message boards
2. Certain posts are consistent with other posts despite spatial and temporal displacement
3. There could be reason to believe this consistency is actually coherence
4. Users project, in addition to the pragmatic message, various levels of meaning that coheres with posts throughout the board
C. ???

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Fluttershy posted...

it doesn't grab me.

i'm not like fuck i gotta read this paper. what's coherentism?

"Montreal is east of Toronto, Vancouver is west of Ontario and Montreal, so Vancouver is west of Toronto"

That's the gist of it

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Woozul posted...

How do you plan to connect these? Im really interested in using qualitative methodology to examine digital information but I would like to see how you connect the dots here.

Not sure. It's just a seed of an idea I've had for a while. The goal is to generalize to communication broadly so the digital part is less relevant.


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That's the gist of it

still not getting it. and i think relating whatever you're trying to say using geography is kinda up your own ass. could you just tell me? like, i asked clearly. be clear. clear is good.

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But I guess the connection is just in the idea that the additional meaning you get from discovering how some messages cohere with other message could be evidence for something like "being able to detect information from a vast distance"

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Fluttershy posted...

That's the gist of it

still not getting it. and i think relating whatever you're trying to say using geography is kinda up your own ass. could you just tell me? like, i asked clearly. be clear. clear is good.

Dude. It's like 200 years of philosophy. I'm not gonna be able to tell you exactly what it is. Also no one even agrees on what it is generally.

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@Woozul

Original content DO NOT steal

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I'm not gonna be able to tell you exactly what it is.

if you're giving up before you start, why should i read it?

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Fluttershy posted...

I'm not gonna be able to tell you exactly what it is.

if you're giving up before you start, why should i read it?

You fool, you're ignoring the multi year training montage

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I see it a lot

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You fool, you're ignoring the multi year training montage

i'm not ignoring it the track is just way more engaging than the visuals.

but i think you're not taking what i'm saying personally and i appreciate you for it. reach me!

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Fluttershy posted...

You fool, you're ignoring the multi year training montage

i'm not ignoring it the track is just way more engaging than the visuals.

but i think you're not taking what i'm saying personally and i appreciate you for it. reach me!

If you want a basic version it's just the idea that truth comes from things cohering with each other, instead of things being based on a foundation. Coherence is, I think, a relation between a group of propositions where their individual truth reinforces the truth of the other propositions.

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so: truthiness.

i think you're arguing that people are guided by a sense of things adding up.

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GameFan462 posted...

I see it a lot

Oh, this paper exists more than once?

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Fluttershy posted...

so: truthiness.

I don't know what that means but you seem confident enough

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who is the intended audience?

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toreysback posted...

who is the intended audience?

Probably just gonna post it on /lit/ since it's not gonna be good lol

Not that I will actually write it

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if you can post it anonymously why wouldn't you?

hello?

do you know how much shitty mlp fanfiction i've had to see because it was in the form of greentext? how do you have any reservations whatsoever?

also anonymity allows people to rip apart your work, and that's the healthiest thing for you. be destroyed and be reborn into the writer you want!

i can only cajole you so hard from here. get that shit out there. i had no idea.

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Fluttershy posted...

if you can post it anonymously why wouldn't you?

hello?

do you know how much shitty mlp fanfiction i've had to see because it was in the form of greentext? how do you have any reservations whatsoever?

also anonymity allows people to rip apart your work, and that's the healthiest thing for you. be destroyed and be reborn into the writer you want!

i can only cajole you so hard from here. get that shit out there. i had no idea.

Honestly, there is no way this is actually a new idea. ESPECIALLY on lit

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so the fuck what? they can rip you for that too. you're already ripping yourself for it. i can get in on that if you feel the need.

get a new idea guy.

i can't think of a healthier atmosphere than no-holds-barred for an aspiring writer. you need to come face-to-face with every shitty bad critic take that will exist so you'll know what to expect. /lit/ is full of people up their own assholes and is therefore ideal.

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Fluttershy posted...

so the fuck what? they can rip you for that too. you're already ripping yourself for it. i can get in on that if you feel the need.

get a new idea guy.

i can't think of a healthier atmosphere than no-holds-barred for an aspiring writer. you need to come face-to-face with every shitty bad critic take that will exist so you'll know what to expect. /lit/ is full of people up their own assholes and is therefore ideal.

No idea why you're so into this

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a lot of my friends happen to be writers. i think they like me because i'm cruel on command.

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Fluttershy posted...

a lot of my friends happen to be writers. i think they like me because i'm cruel on command.

I'm not a writer I just like talking about it

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i can't hear you.

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Do you want to know the sound a post makes?

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i don't trust that you have the chops to accurately write it but okay try if you insist

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Fluttershy posted...

i don't trust that you have the chops to accurately write it but okay try if you insist

I already said I'm not gonna write it. Think you missed that.

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Woozul posted...

Thats not really my specific area of interest, i was just curious how you connected the concepts. Maybe a preliminary concept analysis would be good, along with a visual diagram? Could be useful to establish a baseline of what it is, and what it is not.

Communication theories would be a good place to start, but I would like to see how you plan to divorce the digital aspect of it. Psychology of digital communication and in person communication is inherently tied to this, and you may want to see if you can find what they have in common.

Could (possibly) pull from forums vs face to face interview data on a given topic and use the preliminary concept analysis as the framework for your discussion.

Assuming this is more of a blog type of post and not something to be published. Still interesting but collaboration with content experts would be beneficial if that is the end goal.

No one wants to collab with me.

As for the rest of the post... That is a lot of stuff to do but maybe it's worth doing?

I think this ended up being me gauging how good the idea is and if it would be well recieved

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I already said I'm not gonna write it. Think you missed that.

if you decided to write it, it isn't like i'd ever know.

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Fluttershy posted...

I already said I'm not gonna write it. Think you missed that.

if you decided to write it, it isn't like i'd ever know.

Well it PROBABLY exists already. If I was able to think of it other people certainly have already.

I'm not original at all

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Woozul posted...

Adding to that, even the role of anonymity needs to be discussed. Might be good to say, look at the level of personal information disclosed on the forum you pull data from. Generally, broadly speaking - you are probably going to see more consistency in communication with platforms where people typically disclose more about themselves and in person communication. On the other hand, many, many message boards do not require any significant level of disclosure of personal info, which may impact level of information disclosure of incredibly personal information as it is perceived as not identifiable.
I mean of course there are liars and trolls and other concerns across digital platforms Im going out on a limb here and saying that you arent stating people are consistently and frequently genuinely admitting to sniffing farts of someone theyre attracted to though lol

MedeaLysistrata posted...

But I guess the connection is just in the idea that the additional meaning you get from discovering how some messages cohere with other message could be evidence for something like "being able to detect information from a vast distance"

How interesting do you think this is?

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From that post I gather that I have found a penny in the penny mine that is my brain

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Woozul posted...

I think its a very interesting concept to explore and may even ultimately tie into pattern recognition and how we use intuition.

What does it have to do with pattern recognition? Ostensibly the flow of the board is arbitrary (unless you monsters really are posting to some kind of ordered rhythm) so I think the idea that someone can pick up on something that was said on, say, page 3, by reading into other messages on page 1, and then write a post cohering with the page 3 post... seems to have nothing to do with patterns...


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Well it PROBABLY exists already. If I was able to think of it other people certainly have already.

I'm not original at all

ugh fucking excuses. go get shredded already so you can grow.

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Fluttershy posted...

go get shredded already so you can grow.

I don't think the body and the mind have that much to do with each other.

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i think the mind is part of the body.

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Fluttershy posted...

i think the mind is part of the body.

If you think that then I have to assume you also think the mind probably doesn't exist, in which case why post here?

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that's a hefty assumption -- i think the mind is to software as the body is to hardware.

but to answer your question: why post here? it's the weekend and i'm like five beers in. try and stop me.

i got the guinness mint chocolate stout.

it really isn't that bad.

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Fluttershy posted...

that's a hefty assumption -- i think the mind is to software as the body is to hardware.

but to answer your question: why post here? it's the weekend and i'm like five beers in. try and stop me.

I'm just wondering why this role has a new actor tbh

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what role?

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Fluttershy posted...

what role?

Critical interlocutor, formerly played by Xeth

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oh, shit. time and place. i'll interlocute like a motherfucker if i get the chance. i just happened to see you.

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