Board 8 > After having his name cleared, ZeRo is returning to making content.

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ExThaNemesis
11/17/21 3:50:24 PM
#51:


Anyway I should say that he's not gonna be accepted back into the community with open arms.

The people who want to watch his content can do so, and the people who don't want him around can avoid/ignore him like they were doing.

Like Nairo, he's not gonna be a presence at tournaments or competing in any serious capacity anymore.

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swordz9
11/17/21 3:50:28 PM
#52:


The fact he was gonna kill himself over it just makes me even more convinced he was guilty not gonna lie
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HashtagSEP
11/17/21 3:51:34 PM
#53:


ExThaNemesis posted...
He has recanted that admission and said that it was made under duress and included in what was meant to be his suicide note.

So you believe it's more reasonable that he made up his confession, and for some reason decided to outright lie in a suicide note in a way that made him look bad and would guide any lasting impression of him... You believe that's more reasonable than "I want to be famous again plz how do we do this?"

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ExThaNemesis
11/17/21 3:53:34 PM
#54:


I think it's believable that a dude with ZeRo's mental health background was like "Okay yeah fuck it, it's all true, goodbye" especially after the week+ he'd had.

And in that screenshot, part of what Technicals and ZeRo did was prove Leffen and Jisu had been lying/colluding the whole time so... it's a good thing they WERE talking about how to control the narrative? lol

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HashtagSEP
11/17/21 3:55:47 PM
#55:


Okay, but you can see how any logical person would find it strange that he'd decide to commit suicide because of "lies" the internet said, and then... Leave a note going "Yeah, that's all true."

That coupled with his blatant desire to control the narrative now does not make him look innocent at all, dude.

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changmas
11/17/21 3:57:00 PM
#56:


welp looks like weve moved the goalposts far beyond presenting only facts and now were at actually its good that he colluded with the accused to control the narrative

brilliant stuff here. anyway i think that just about wraps things up here in a neat little bow

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ExThaNemesis
11/17/21 4:07:43 PM
#57:


"colluding with the accused" is a funny way of putting "gathered evidence to exonerate him"

also can I just say how frustrating it is to post a video, and then argue about the content of said video with people who refuse to watch it?

If I seem aggressive it's prolly coz of that lol

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ExThaNemesis
11/17/21 4:08:37 PM
#58:


And yes, I can see how a logical person might not be able to understand the motivations of someone on the verge of committing suicide, but I guess as someone who has been on that verge himself it makes more sense to me.

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ChaosTonyV4
11/17/21 4:09:14 PM
#59:


Weird topic, bro.

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ExThaNemesis
11/17/21 4:09:57 PM
#60:


Logically, ZeRo's situation was just "You won't be able to make videos playing a fighting game anymore"

But in his head "All my friends have just turned on me and the world thinks I'm a dangerous scumbag and now I can't do the only thing I'm good at" is probably more what it was like.

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ExThaNemesis
11/17/21 4:10:20 PM
#61:


ChaosTonyV4 posted...
Weird topic, bro.

IKR? First topic I've made in forever and this is what we get.

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ExThaNemesis
11/17/21 4:12:06 PM
#62:


Anyway, I suppose I should've titled the topic "after having his name cleared of almost everything" but that wouldn't have fit within the character limit.

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swordz9
11/17/21 4:13:51 PM
#63:


Im sure its completely normal for innocent people to panic, admit/lie/backtrack stuff and then consider killing themselves after. Totally normal behavior of an innocent person right there folks.
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ExThaNemesis
11/17/21 4:14:40 PM
#64:


If everyone in the world lived with perfect mental health at all times you'd probably have a point, swordz.

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ExThaNemesis
11/17/21 4:17:01 PM
#65:


I wonder if Leffen lives in the USA or overseas, and how you would even go about charging someone not in the country with a defamation suit?

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swordz9
11/17/21 4:29:26 PM
#66:


I dont know anything about him as a person.
Given the two scenarios its just far easier to believe he was guilty of at least some of the shit he was accused of instead of him being completely innocent, admitting he did it anyways, considering killing himself, not going through with it and then claiming it was all lies and trying to restore his former fame/reputation. The latter is so hard to even consider remotely believable on any level.
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WhiteLens
11/17/21 4:29:49 PM
#67:


ExThaNemesis posted...
I wonder if Leffen lives in the USA or overseas, and how you would even go about charging someone not in the country with a defamation suit?

He lives in Sweden.

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colliding
11/17/21 4:41:58 PM
#68:


In the year 2021 people don't need to take classes in media literacy to know potential misinformation when they see it. I don't have to click the link to verify the phishing attempt.

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ExThaNemesis
11/17/21 6:05:57 PM
#69:


Yes, anything that has information not conforming to your worldview is a phishing attempt bro you keep that head in the sand

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Leafeon13N
11/17/21 7:02:01 PM
#70:


colliding posted...
people don't need to take classes in media literacy to know potential misinformation when they see it.
Actually they really do and this should be a required class.
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HashtagSEP
11/18/21 4:27:39 PM
#72:


I mean he was in a clear enough mind to first make excuses for some of the stuff before actually admitting it straight up.

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