Board 8 > Rate the VG Story Day 155: Phantasy Star II

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Lightning Strikes
11/14/21 6:08:10 PM
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Todays game is Phantasy Star II. How would you rate the story on a scale from 1-10?

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Previous Results:
Planescape: Torment - 9.83 (12 votes)
Higurashi When They Cry - 9.69 (8 votes)
Omori - 9.67 (6 votes)
Outer Wilds - 9.61 (22 votes)
Silent Hill 2 - 9.5 (20 votes)
Deus Ex - 9.35 (11 votes)
Nier Automata - 9.25 (31 votes)
Phoenix Wright: Ace Attorney: Trials and Tribulations - 9.2 (34 votes)
The Legend of Heroes: Trails in the Sky SC - 9.15 (19 votes)
13 Sentinels: Aegis Rim - 9.1 (14 votes)
The House in Fata Morgana - 9.1 (10 votes)
Yakuza 0 - 9.03 (13 votes)
Red Dead Redemption 2 - 9 (8 votes)
Mother 3 - 8.98 (14 votes)
Steins;Gate - 8.94 (9 votes)
Metal Gear Solid 3: Snake Eater - 8.91 (30 votes)
Umineko When They Cry - 8.88 (13 votes)
Grim Fandango - 8.88 (13 votes)
Zero Escape: Virtues Last Reward - 8.88 (20 votes)
Return of the Obra Dinn - 8.85 (10 votes)
Silent Hill 4: The Room - 8.83 (6 votes)
Suikoden II - 8.8 (11 votes)
Persona 3 - 8.76 (22 votes)
Xenogears - 8.73 (24 votes)
Tales of Berseria - 8.69 (14 votes)
Metal Gear Solid 2: Sons of Liberty 8.67 (31 votes)
Final Fantasy Tactics - 8.67 (27 votes)
Metal Gear Solid - 8.67 (27 votes)
Dragon Quest V - 8.64 (14 votes)
Pyre - 8.64 (7 votes)
Bastion - 8.63 (12 votes)
Persona 4 - 8.59 (31 votes)
The Legend of Zelda: Majoras Mask - 8.56 (27 votes)
Disco Elysium - 8.56 (16 votes)
Undertale - 8.45 (42 votes)
Paper Mario: The Thousand Year Door - 8.45 (16 votes)
The Legend of Heroes: Trails in the Sky the 3rd - 8.42 (12 votes)
What Remains of Edith Finch - 8.41 (19 votes)
Yakuza: Like a Dragon - 8.4 (5 votes)
Chrono Trigger - 8.39 (40 votes)
Mass Effect 2 - 8.38 (28 votes)
South Park: The Stick of Truth - 8.38 (17 votes)
Star Wars: Knights of the Old Republic - 8.37 (15 votes)
Final Fantasy X - 8.31 (56 votes)
Final Fantasy VII - 8.28 (37 votes)
Dragon Quest XI - 8.27 (16 votes)
Ghost Trick: Phantom Detective 8.21 (19 votes)
Snatcher - 8.2 (5 votes)
Final Fantasy VI - 8.19 (43 votes)
Phoenix Wright: Ace Attorney - 8.17 (42 votes)
The Walking Dead Season 1 - 8.17 (21 votes)
Phoenix Wright: Ace Attorney: Dual Destinies - 8.16 (16 votes)
The Last of Us - 8.13 (35 votes)
Horizon: Zero Dawn - 8.06 (18 votes)
Silent Hill - 8.04 (14 votes)
The Wolf Among Us - 8.04 (14 votes)
Xenoblade Chronicles - 7.94 (27 votes)
The Legend of Heroes: Trails in the Sky - 7.94 (17 votes)
Hades - 7.91 (21 votes)
Spec Ops: The Line - 7.9 (17 votes)
Bloodborne - 7.88 (20 votes)
Life is Strange - 7.85 (31 votes)
Professor Layton and the Unwound Future - 7.75 (6 votes)
The Sexy Brutale - 7.7 (5 votes)
Nine Hours, Nine Persons, Nine Doors - 7.69 (31 votes)
Bioshock - 7.64 (23 votes)
Doki Doki Literature Club - 7.64 (27 votes)
Celeste - 7.56 (26 votes)
Skies of Arcadia - 7.54 (14 votes)
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The Last Story - 7.47 (6 votes)
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Tales of Symphonia - 7.42 (30 votes)
Mass Effect - 7.35 (28 votes)
Earthbound - 7.33 (19 votes)
Batman: Arkham Asylum - 7.3 (22 votes)
Zero Escape: Zero Time Dilemma - 7.27 (20 votes)
Uncharted 2: Among Thieves - 7.26 (29 votes)
Tales of the Abyss - 7.25 (29 votes)
Hotel Dusk: Room 215 - 7.25 (12 votes)
Red Dead Redemption - 7.23 (11 votes)
Resident Evil 4 - 7.19 (25 votes)
Danganronpa V3: Killing Harmony - 7.17 (25 votes)
Mass Effect 3 - 7.16 (21 votes)
Metal Gear Solid 4: Guns of the Patriots - 7.11 (23 votes)
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To the Moon - 7.07 (7 votes)
Super Paper Mario - 7.04 (23 votes)
Assassins Creed II - 7.04 (13 votes)
Final Fantasy VIII - 7.01 (31 votes)
The Vanishing of Ethan Carter - 7 (5 votes)
Hollow Knight - 6.98 (21 votes)
INSIDE - 6.93 (15 votes)
Gone Home - 6.91 (17 votes)
Bioshock Infinite - 6.87 (19 votes)
Assassins Creed: Brotherhood - 6.83 (6 votes)
The World Ends With You - 6.79 (24 votes)
Death Stranding - 6.73 (13 votes)
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Firewatch - 6.65 (10 votes)
Dark Souls - 6.62 (20 votes)
Danganronpa: Trigger Happy Havoc - 6.61 (29 votes)
Chrono Cross - 6.53 (18 votes)
Valkyria Chronicles - 6.5 (16 votes)
Xenoblade Chronicles 2 - 6.5 (13 votes)
Deus Ex: Human Revolution - 6.45 (10 votes)
Resident Evil 7: Biohazard - 6.38 (12 votes)
Final Fantasy V - 6.37 (26 votes)
Grand Theft Auto V - 6.36 (11 votes)
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Professor Layton and the Curious Village - 6.15 (15 votes)
DOOM (2016) - 6.15 (13 votes)
Tales of Vesperia - 6.13 (24 votes)
Shadow of the Colossus - 5.94 (27 votes)
Assassins Creed III - 5.94 (8 votes)
Sonic Adventure 2 - 5.89 (26 votes)
Star Fox 64 - 5.8 (25 votes)
Uncharted 3: Drakes Deception - 5.8 (24 votes)
Final Fantasy IV - 5.76 (32 votes)
Sekiro: Shadows Die Twice - 5.72 (9 votes)
Tales of Xillia - 5.71 (12 votes)
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Dishonored - 5.67 (9 votes)
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Final Fantasy XIII-2 - 5.62 (13 votes)
Kingdom Hearts - 5.51 (31 votes)
The Wonderful 101 - 5.5 (4 votes)
Castlevania: Symphony of the Night - 5.43 (14 votes)
Professor Layton and the Diabolical Box - 5.3 (10 votes)
Grand Theft Auto IV - 5.27 (13 votes)
Uncharted: Drakes Fortune - 5.26 (28 votes)
Far Cry 3 - 5.21 (8 votes)
Fable - 5 (12 votes)
Apollo Justice: Ace Attorney - 4.93 (24 votes)
Mega Man X4 - 4.89 (13 votes)
Fire Emblem Fates: Birthright - 4.85 (13 votes)
Final Fantasy XIII - 4.79 (29 votes)
Final Fantasy X-2 - 4.79 (19 votes)
Final Fantasy XV - 4.79 (19 votes)
Fallout 3 - 4.76 (17 votes)
Starcraft II: Wings of Liberty - 4.72 (9 votes)
Super Smash Bros. Brawl - 4.64 (40 votes)
Fallout 4 - 4.43 (15 votes)
Final Fantasy - 4.23 (20 votes)
Danganronpa Another Episode: Ultra Despair Girls - 3.94 (9 votes)
Metal Gear Solid: Portable Ops - 3.89 (9 votes)
Resident Evil 6 - 3.74 (17 votes)
Final Fantasy Tactics Advance - 3.69 (13 votes)
Star Ocean: The Last Hope - 3.43 (15 votes)
Starcraft II (overall) - 3.4 (5 votes)
Fire Emblem Fates: Conquest - 3.31 (16 votes)
Dissidia: Final Fantasy - 3.29 (12 votes)
Fire Emblem Fates (overall) - 3.29 (12 votes)
Starcraft II: Legacy of the Void - 2.83 (6 votes)
Sonic the Hedgehog (2006) - 2.66 (16 votes)
Starcraft II: Heart of the Swarm - 2.57 (7 votes)
Fire Emblem Fates: Revelation - 2.4 (10 votes)
Tales of Zestiria - 2.38 (8 votes)

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Leonhart4
11/14/21 6:08:58 PM
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AxemRedRanger
11/14/21 6:28:08 PM
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3/10

Phantasy Star II is from 1989 and feels every bit like the pre-SNES game that it is. A decent setting idea with a few notable moments but the plot and characterization are so spare and underwhelming its hard to care. I generally expect any JRPG in the last 30 years where any effort whatsoever was put into the story to be better than this simply by trying.

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NFUN
11/14/21 6:31:29 PM
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who nommed this one

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Axl_Rose_85
11/14/21 8:46:12 PM
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2

I mean not that the original set a standard for storyline or anything but this one was unnecessarily convoluted with bad translation that kinda plagued video games of its time. It is better than Phantasy Star III but that game is a bottom tier JRPG. Now Phantasy Star IV, that is a fantastic game with a very good story.
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Fiop
11/14/21 9:47:48 PM
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4/10

I ended up playing this on Phantasy Star Collection for GBA, so way after it was released. It was probably decent enough for its time at least, but isn't so good by today's standards.

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Lightning Strikes
11/15/21 2:07:23 AM
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Up.

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Zylothewolf
11/15/21 2:12:23 AM
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10/10, my favourite plot in any game.

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Axl_Rose_85
11/15/21 3:58:54 AM
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Zylothewolf posted...
10/10, my favourite plot in any game.

Explain.

You're the same person who review bombed Final Fantasy VIII with a 1.
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Zylothewolf
11/15/21 4:13:55 AM
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Axl_Rose_85 posted...
Explain.

You're the same person who review bombed Final Fantasy VIII with a 1.

FFVIII story is just awful. Theres a reason why fan theories like Squall dies at the end of disc 1 or Rinoa is Ultimecia in the future got so much attention. If you want I can explain why I love Phantasy Star 2 when I get home and dont have to write on my phone.


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Axl_Rose_85
11/15/21 5:58:48 AM
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Zylothewolf posted...
FFVIII story is just awful. Theres a reason why fan theories like Squall dies at the end of disc 1 or Rinoa is Ultimecia in the future got so much attention. If you want I can explain why I love Phantasy Star 2 when I get home and dont have to write on my phone.

Yeah I'm very wildly curious to see how anyone thinks Phantasy Star II has a 10/10 storyline.

This is like saying watching paint dry is one of the most exciting experiences in life.

And also so far, your explanation for why you think FFVIII is a 1 in storyline has literally no explanation.

So I ask TC. When is review bombing and score inflation called into question for something like this? Or is it ok for everyone to dish out suspicious 10s and 1s without question?
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Leonhart4
11/15/21 9:08:19 AM
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Zylothewolf posted...
FFVIII story is just awful. Theres a reason why fan theories like Squall dies at the end of disc 1 or Rinoa is Ultimecia in the future got so much attention.

By this logic, any game with fan theories has a terrible story.

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Leonhart4
11/15/21 9:13:57 AM
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Axl_Rose_85 posted...
And also so far, your explanation for why you think FFVIII is a 1 in storyline has literally no explanation.

So I ask TC. When is review bombing and score inflation called into question for something like this? Or is it ok for everyone to dish out suspicious 10s and 1s without question?

It's okay for someone to hate FFVIII. A lot of people do. People don't have to justify low scores.

It doesn't get suspicious until something happens along the lines of, say, someone changing their ratings to affect the overall score.

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AxemRedRanger
11/15/21 10:52:21 AM
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I can sorta buy "Phantasy Star II's story is a 10/10" being a real opinion. My general understanding of Phantasy Star II's popularity is that it got a lot of praise back in the day (for a Genesis JRPG anyways) and that it still tends to make top 100 Genesis lists but that people who didn't play it back in the day don't tend to like it much.

I mean, I obviously don't agree with him, but if his shit taste plus nostalgia or whatever says it's a 10/10, it's valid.

Am looking forward to the explanation though!

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paulg235
11/15/21 1:15:30 PM
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6

Obviously doesn't hold up anymore, but was alright for its time.

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Lightning Strikes
11/15/21 4:16:26 PM
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Any more?

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Axl_Rose_85
11/15/21 8:56:19 PM
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Leonhart4 posted...
It's okay for someone to hate FFVIII. A lot of people do. People don't have to justify low scores.

It doesn't get suspicious until something happens along the lines of, say, someone changing their ratings to affect the overall score

Yeah his explanation for both his 10 and 1 score were extremely vague which is why I'm calling him out on that. I didn't say anything when he scored FF8 a 1 initially but Phantasy Star II, a 10?

And what exactly is 'suspicious' about me openly saying I'm changing my score because hyperbole lovefest scores were clearly inflating Hades' storyline scores. If I did that without saying anything then you can call it suspicious. Besides TC didn't even count my score and I am completely fine with that. I said my piece and I'm not backing down from what I said. I would do the same for many other games if this were allowed but it isn't so I'm not doing it anymore.
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LeonhartFour
11/15/21 8:58:23 PM
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Axl_Rose_85 posted...
Yeah his explanation for both his 10 and 1 score were extremely vague

Most people don't explain their scores.

Axl_Rose_85 posted...
I would do the same for many other games if this were allowed but it isn't so I'm not doing it anymore.

which is exactly why it isn't allowed, you aren't the arbiter of what's an acceptable score no matter how much you seem to believe you are

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AxemRedRanger
11/22/21 1:56:23 PM
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never got that explanation huh

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