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MARKINGRAM22
11/12/21 6:11:44 PM
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Literally a Caucasian Spanish person playing a Caucasian Cuban person of Spanish decent. It is no different than a British person playing an American.
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Arcanine2009
11/12/21 6:22:47 PM
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They don't get that casting companies do try and look for certain backgrounds for certain casts, but they want to still hire the best talent who applied for the position. So sometimes a person who they are looking for (specific background) doesn't apply or isn't good enough acting wise.

Like go apply for that role or something similar yourself and prove you have the talent for the role instead of complaining.

-we got this complaint with not enough south east Asians voicing for characters in Raya the Last Dragon

-Or not enough afro Latin actors in In The Heights

and not enough middle eastern or North African actors for the main cast if Dune as well.

SJWs will bitch about everything.

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DeadBankerDream
11/12/21 6:23:45 PM
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Why do I have to do research to find out what you're talking about?

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Jiek_Fafn
11/12/21 6:26:37 PM
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DeadBankerDream posted...
Why do I have to do research to find out what you're talking about?
I'm a big Lucy fan so I did it.
Javier Bardem is playing Desi Arnez in a movie about his and Lucille Ball's relationship. Nicole Kidman is playing Lucy

Javier doesn't really look the part, but tbh I don't think that's the point of the movie. Kidman doesn't really look like Lucy either. Also she's Australian which no one cares about

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Atralis
11/12/21 6:35:47 PM
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DeadBankerDream posted...
Why do I have to do research to find out what you're talking about?

Lucille Ball (redhead) and Desi Arnaz (Cuban) had a hit comedy sitcom called "I love Lucy" in the 1950's that replays to this day on classic tv networks (was on Nick at Night when I was a kid).. They were married in real life and later divorced.

The big point that people are missing if they are outraged about this is that people's conceptions of race have changed over time. Desi Arnaz was a Latino but he grew up in Cuba as a rich white Latino. He was seen as white even in the United States and it wasn't seen as a racially mixed marriage. People in the 50's still had a ton of direct experience of having large white immigrant communities fresh off the boat from Europe, particularly southern Europe and honestly Spain itself was an incredibly poor country so being Spanish vs being a Spanish person from Cuba didn't really mean much.
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Jiek_Fafn
11/12/21 6:40:24 PM
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Atralis posted...
Lucille Ball (redhead) and Desi Arnaz (Cuban) had a hit comedy sitcom called "I love Lucy" in the 1950's that replays to this day on classic tv networks (was on Nick at Night when I was a kid).. They were married in real life and later divorced.

The big point that people are missing if they are outraged about this is that people's conceptions of race have changed over time. Desi Arnaz was a Latino but he grew up in Cuba as a rich white Latino. He was seen as white even in the United States and it wasn't seen as a racially mixed marriage. People in the 50's still had a ton of direct experience of having large white immigrant communities fresh off the boat from Europe, particularly southern Europe and honestly Spain itself was an incredibly poor country so being Spanish vs being a Spanish person from Cuba didn't really mean much.
Everything I've read about that points to the opposite. Lucy had to outright fight yo get Desi cast as Ricky. They had to do a vaudeville show together beforehand to prove to execs that people wouldn't flip tables over it.


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Atralis
11/12/21 10:50:10 PM
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Jiek_Fafn posted...
Everything I've read about that points to the opposite. Lucy had to outright fight yo get Desi cast as Ricky. They had to do a vaudeville show together beforehand to prove to execs that people wouldn't flip tables over it.

I get that but this topic is about Spaniard vs white Spanish Cuban. My grandfather (born 1919, ww2 veteran) was about as racist against Italian people as he was against "Latinos" is the point I was getting at. When I love Lucy came out people in his part of the country (Philly) barely even realized that people from Latin America existed and if they met them they checked 99% of the same boxes as Italians who they had met a ton of.

My grandfather was basically a poor white protestant growing up on a farm (his Dad died when he was a baby of the 1918 pandemic and he had to leave the house at 14 to start making money) that moved to the city and married an Irish Catholic girl after he came back from the war. Being that poor he still looked down on "Eye"talians. Which says something about the nature of racism.
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