Current Events > I have had too much bad luck this year to be coincidence (injuries and doctors)

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It's kind of frightening.

Since May, I hurt my right shoulder lifting an empty garbage can, left shoulder by jamming my shoulder into my arm rest too hard, left knee buckled and is weak now by getting up from my chair the wrong way, knocking my jaw out of whack after my mom accidentally banging her head into it when she went to hug me, and have random foot pain.

Plus other incidents like whacking my hand against a railing, jamming my hip going down one step in my house, almost cracking a left tooth on a piece of chicken gristle from a wrap and then almost cracking a right tooth on a piece of chicken gristle from a frozen meal a few days later.

I've seen an orthopedic doc for my shoulder who said nothing was wrong with it and sent me to PT. PT said it was muscle strains and even though I went to PT for 10 sessions, I still have pain, weakness, and popping noises. I asked her about my knee and she didn't even want to acknowledge it. Went to oral surgeon for my jaw who made me a nightguard which isn't helping.

At this point I don't know what to do. I've lost faith in medical professionals in treating my problems. It doesn't make sense that I could get hurt this bad and not heal from supposedly minor and incidents. Just the fact that they all happened separately and back to back is so bizarre. Feels like there is a black cloud over me.

I feel you man, I had excruciating foot pain walking more than a mile, hurt my hip, fell and tore something in my shoulder, and chronic muscle strains in my mid back and neck.

Every doctor and PT I saw gave me passive crap. Shoe inserts. Dry needling. Massages. Exercises for old ladies.

I cured it all myself by looking at my movement as a whole. I got flat, foot shaped shoes that let my feet heal. I started sitting on the ground instead of the couch, which healed my hips, and most importantly I started lifting weights in a full ROM and that cured basically everything.

I've been pain free for a few years now and basically the answer was becoming an athlete. But I do NOT trust doctors anymore. They apparently never learn basic biomechanics in med school

If I had any advice for you it would be to start a bodyweight strength and mobility routine, like the Recommended Routine from reddits bodyweight fitness sub

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Njolk posted...

I feel you man, I had excruciating foot pain walking more than a mile, hurt my hip, fell and tore something in my shoulder, and chronic muscle strains in my mid back and neck.

Every doctor and PT I saw gave me passive crap. Shoe inserts. Dry needling. Massages. Exercises for old ladies.

I cured it all myself by looking at my movement as a whole. I got flat, foot shaped shoes that let my feet heal. I started sitting on the ground instead of the couch, which healed my hips, and most importantly I started lifting weights in a full ROM and that cured basically everything.

I've been pain free for a few years now and basically the answer was becoming an athlete. But I do NOT trust doctors anymore. They apparently never learn basic biomechanics in med school

If I had any advice for you it would be to start a bodyweight strength and mobility routine, like the Recommended Routine from reddits bodyweight fitness sub

How did you know you tore something in your shoulder?

My ortho doc and oral surgeon took x-rays and didn't see anything. I kept thinking, x-rays wouldn't tell if you tore something, so why do docs say you are fine just from x-ray results?

rattlesnake30 posted...

How did you know you tore something in your shoulder?

My ortho doc and oral surgeon took x-rays and didn't see anything. I kept thinking, x-rays wouldn't tell if you tore something, so why do docs say you are fine just from x-ray results?

I'm a paramedic, I recognized I'd partially torn my AC joint

X-rays show skeletal separation, if any of your ligaments stretch or tear, your shoulder girdle bones won't be in the place they should be

But you may have torn your shoulder labrum. Doctors often miss this -- it was missed in my wife and my friend. "Torn shoulder labrum" will return symptoms for you, it's a pretty common one, causes chronic pain, requires an MRI

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Njolk posted...

I'm a paramedic, I recognized I'd partially torn my AC joint

X-rays show skeletal separation, if any of your ligaments stretch or tear, your shoulder girdle bones won't be in the place they should be

But you may have torn your shoulder labrum. Doctors often miss this -- it was missed in my wife and my friend. "Torn shoulder labrum" will return symptoms for you, it's a pretty common one, causes chronic pain, requires an MRI

So you rehabbed your shoulder without surgery using exercises?

I wonder if I should go back to the original doc who took the x-rays for my shoulder or see someone else. Its weird that he said that "popping and clicking doesn't mean anything" since I see it could be a symptom of a problem. Its been awhile since I stopped the physical therapy for my shoulders since I wasn't feeling any progress.

In addition to the clicking sensation and sounds, I feel pain and weakness. My "pushing motion" feels especially weak, like the muscles moving my shoulder blades aren't activating if thats the right word. Its like my arms are flimsy now. I just don't understand why my physical therapist thought it was just strains of my rhomboids and traps. Seems like its way more serious than that.

rattlesnake30 posted...

So you rehabbed your shoulder without surgery using exercises?

I wonder if I should go back to the original doc who took the x-rays for my shoulder or see someone else. Its weird that he said that "popping and clicking doesn't mean anything" since I see it could be a symptom of a problem. Its been awhile since I stopped the physical therapy for my shoulders since I wasn't feeling any progress.

In addition to the clicking sensation and sounds, I feel pain and weakness. My "pushing motion" feels especially weak, like the muscles moving my shoulder blades aren't activating if thats the right word. Its like my arms are flimsy now. I just don't understand why my physical therapist thought it was just strains of my rhomboids and traps. Seems like its way more serious than that.

Yes I did, when you hurt a ligament it heals really tightly, so you have to do mobility work to help it along

Are you talking about your left shoulder that you smashed? That's a mechanism to hurt your AC ligament

Or your garbage can lift? That could be a labrum situation

The most helpful exercise for my shoulder was "bar dislocates" which can be done with a long broomstick, and stretching my pectoralis minor. But this is bad for a torn labrum, which cannot be rehabbed with exercise

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Njolk posted...

Yes I did, when you hurt a ligament it heals really tightly, so you have to do mobility work to help it along

Are you talking about your left shoulder that you smashed? That's a mechanism to hurt your AC ligament

Or your garbage can lift? That could be a labrum situation

The most helpful exercise for my shoulder was "bar dislocates" which can be done with a long broomstick, and stretching my pectoralis minor. But this is bad for a torn labrum, which cannot be rehabbed with exercise

So for my right shoulder, I went to bring our empty garbage can to the backyard. I have to lift it up 2 steps onto our deck. I used my right arm and did a shrugging motion upwards to get it up the stairs.

It wasn't getting better so thats when I decided to get it checked out. I got both shoulders x-rayed because I was also having pain in my left shoulder due to a lot of pain that wasn't going away after my covid shots specifically in my shoulder blade. I also had symptoms from the shot that were prolonged like increased heart rate, a tingling in my left elbow, and pain in the back of my legs.

Then literally the next the day after my orthopedic visit, I was sitting in my chair and went to lean down on the left armrest with my left forearm. I guess I sat down too hard and low. It felt like my shoulder shrugged up too high, just like I did with my right shoulder.

In both cases there is pain, weakness, and clicking. At one point it was really bad, it felt like my arms were noodles. Just super weak, but now its not really much stronger. Thats why I also think there might be some type of nerve problem. I don't know if I should see a neurologist or maybe just go back to an orthopedic doc. The clicking on both shoulder occurs when I do a pulling/rowing motion, and it also occurs if I do a chicken wing motion and lowering an arm from a raised potion to my side.

I just keep thinking that this has to be connected to the vaccines. I just don't understand how I could hurt so many of my joints in such a small time frame when I was perfectly fine before.

Surprisingly, shoulder injury after vaccines is actually a thing:

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6707642/

The researchers recommended an ultrasound as bursitis (treated with steroid shots) was the most common, but tendonitis and even labral tears had happened


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Here's an even better study:
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6347325/

Don't let them jerk you around, my wife had a major reaction from an injection that was given sloppily (not a vaccine, but it caused a massive scar on her hip that took a year to go away)

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Njolk posted...

Surprisingly, shoulder injury after vaccines is actually a thing:

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6707642/

The researchers recommended an ultrasound as bursitis (treated with steroid shots) was the most common, but tendonitis and even labral tears had happened

Yeah, I've heard that. Seems weird though that I got both shots on my left shoulder but my first actual injury was on my right shoulder. I lifted the garbage can two days after my 2nd shot.

I wonder if my body had a weird reaction to the vaccine and damaged my connective tissues? I was never a real athlete growing up, but I played sports and was active and never got hurt once. Seems odd that everyday movements all of a sudden would cause so much damage.