Current Events > New Morrowind engine releases new update/Take two sues GTA engine

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Just yesterday, the open source engine for Elder Scrolls III Morrowind released a new update after quite a long time, it looks great:
https://youtu.be/_9sUhduT-K4

Meanwhile, Take-two and Rockstar sue their community members working on a similar open source gta engine.

It's almost like one company relies on modders to finish their games and the other is releasing a graphically updated collection of the games people were trying to graphically mod.

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Crazyman93 posted...

It's almost like one company relies on modders to finish their games and the other is releasing a graphically updated collection of the games people were trying to graphically mod.

You could shorten this to:

One company is lazy and smart. the other is lazy and stupid.

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Crazyman93 posted...

It's almost like one company relies on modders to finish their games and the other is releasing a graphically updated collection of the games people were trying to graphically mod.

An updated collection that cannot be expanded upon. It creates a walled garden. That is the only reason they took the old versions down. The old versions are having new engines made for them by the community that would allow us to go beyond what this new game does.

Projects like OpenMW absolutely make these companies money. Take two is not suing RE3 (the new gta engine) because it doesn't make them money, but rather it exposes how they are trying to pace the market.

Yes, Bethesda and Valve just let the communities take care of their games. You can defnitely argue that is weird and scummy in its own way, but it is far superior than to have these companies create walled gardens and prevent their community from having projects like these.

Rockstar games are usually polished at release though.

That Morrowind stuff looks good.

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slipknirvana posted...

Rockstar games are usually polished at release though.

That's a fair point. But the benefits of handing the game off to the community are numerous. One project that Taketwo hasn't ruined yet is the San Andreas MMO server, SA-MP. That being said, it could happen anytime. They've sufficiently communicated to the community that no project is safe.

I play on a Morrowind MMO server with the new engine in this video, it's a great experience cause it's player run, 20 or so people on at any given time. I have a house on the server that is all mine.

The gta games could have much more of that, Taketwo is stifling those developments on purpose, because they want to hold off on that idea for as long as possible in order to guarantee profits later on.

Turtlemayor333 posted...

You could shorten this to:

One company is lazy and smart. the other is lazy and stupid.

Yes. Or the difference between a game being polished at launch but getting almost no support after, vs a game not being so polished, but guaranteed to get there eventually with updates, and then have subsequent updates forever as long as the company does nothng and just lets the community have it.

slipknirvana posted...

Rockstar games are usually polished at release though.

Yeah, meanwhile Bethesda goes "we can cut the whole QA department, a bunch of clowns will fix it all for free!"

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Crazyman93 posted...

Yeah, meanwhile Bethesda goes "we can cut the whole QA department, a bunch of clowns will fix it all for free!"

Now the janitors can go back to cleaning the toilets, like they were hired to do in the first place.

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Crazyman93 posted...

Yeah, meanwhile Bethesda goes "we can cut the whole QA department, a bunch of clowns will fix it all for free!"

Bethesda is shitty. This topic isn't to defend them, but rather to shit on Rockstar/Taketwo (and to hail bethesda's awesome community that makes these great mods)