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Sheiky-Baby
10/31/21 2:34:03 PM
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Killing off Glenn, and that Sheamus lookalike, who were fan favorites, in such a brutal, shocking way, I know that turned ALOT of people away from the show. Then Carl gets killed off, whom the show built up over the years, and the audience believed he was going to be the future. That was probably the final draw.

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C_Pain
10/31/21 2:35:34 PM
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Game of thrones?

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g0ldie
10/31/21 2:35:57 PM
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Sons of Anarchy got to be pretty shit as it went on

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DespondentDeity
10/31/21 2:36:21 PM
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Rick and Morty

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10/31/21 2:37:12 PM
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mybbqrules
10/31/21 2:37:54 PM
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Almost every show wears out it's welcome if it goes on long enough.

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Vyrulisse
10/31/21 2:38:19 PM
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s0nicfan
10/31/21 2:38:56 PM
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The thing about The walking Dead is that the showrunners weren't wrong for creating an environment where literally any character, including a main character, can get brutally murdered. It adds a necessary level of tension to a series about surviving the apocalypse that would otherwise be mundane if you knew the main characters were always going to be safe.

That's not to say it has all been well executed, but for that type of show I think they actually have the right approach.

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Shotgunnova
10/31/21 2:39:24 PM
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Vyrulisse posted...
Dexter is up there.


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dummy420
10/31/21 2:39:50 PM
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Honestly The Walking Dead was never that great but I watched it for its potential. I finally gave up around the the cliffhanger that pissed most people off but all that did was make me drop the habit of watching in hopes it got good. What pissed me off about Glenn Is he already died a season before. He fell into a pit of zombies that there was no possible way to escape from. They then showed it a second time and changed the scene so he had a chance to live. He was dead long before his death scene.

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Sheiky-Baby
10/31/21 2:40:39 PM
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mybbqrules posted...
Almost every show wears out it's welcome if it goes on long enough.
Goes to show how special Mr. Rogers Neighborhood, and Dr. Who was, and is.

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Sheiky-Baby
10/31/21 2:41:46 PM
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dummy420 posted...
Is he already died a season before. He fell into a pit of zombies that there was no possible way to escape from. They then showed it a second time and changed the scene so he had a chance to live. He was dead long before his death scene.
I missed that. Thank goodness I did.

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Njolk
10/31/21 2:43:44 PM
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Why is killing odd the main characters such a bad thing?

You just want plot armor on every likeable person?

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skermac
10/31/21 2:45:14 PM
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Vyrulisse posted...
Dexter is up there.

dexter isnt finished a new season is coming soon

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Cuticrusader09
10/31/21 2:46:12 PM
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s0nicfan posted...
The thing about The walking Dead is that the showrunners weren't wrong for creating an environment where literally any character, including a main character, can get brutally murdered. It adds a necessary level of tension to a series about surviving the apocalypse that would otherwise be mundane if you knew the main characters were always going to be safe.

That's not to say it has all been well executed, but for that type of show I think they actually have the right approach.


The Walking Dead show runners just didnt want to follow the comics to such an extent that they cant land the ending because of who they killed off.

Killing off Carl seems to have only been done to save money because they didnt want to renegotiate with the actor once he was an adult. Once they did that I quit watching.
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Sheiky-Baby
10/31/21 2:48:44 PM
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Njolk posted...
Why is killing odd the main characters such a bad thing?

You just want plot armor on every likeable person?
You're asking a question there are already answers for.

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pfh1001
10/31/21 2:49:33 PM
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dummy420 posted...
Honestly The Walking Dead was never that great but I watched it for its potential. I finally gave up around the the cliffhanger that pissed most people off but all that did was make me drop the habit of watching in hopes it got good. What pissed me off about Glenn Is he already died a season before. He fell into a pit of zombies that there was no possible way to escape from. They then showed it a second time and changed the scene so he had a chance to live. He was dead long before his death scene.


Yeah, I've got to agree with this. That scene with Glenn was stupid & I remember that was the last season that I forced myself to watch.
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thronedfire2
10/31/21 2:49:48 PM
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Heroes

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Sheiky-Baby
10/31/21 2:50:36 PM
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thronedfire2 posted...
Heroes
Oh yeah, that's another good(bad) one.

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s0nicfan
10/31/21 2:51:46 PM
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I'd like to also add Westworld to the list.

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Solid Snake07
10/31/21 2:52:32 PM
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Game of thrones was the biggest fall from grace. But dexter was probably the most absolute crash and burn imo.

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Southernfatman
10/31/21 2:54:06 PM
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I feel so lucky I've never gotten into any of the shows listed. Haven't had any favorite show that completely shit the bed...yet. Just only partly.

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Strider102
10/31/21 2:56:32 PM
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Njolk posted...
Why is killing odd the main characters such a bad thing?

You just want plot armor on every likeable person?

We already have 2 characters with the most OP plot armor of everyone, Carol and Daryl. They refuse to kill them off because they know their ratings would go downhill rapidly.

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Slayerblade11
10/31/21 2:59:23 PM
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s0nicfan posted...
The thing about The walking Dead is that the showrunners weren't wrong for creating an environment where literally any character, including a main character, can get brutally murdered. It adds a necessary level of tension to a series about surviving the apocalypse that would otherwise be mundane if you knew the main characters were always going to be safe.

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HylianFox
10/31/21 3:01:59 PM
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mybbqrules posted...
Almost every show wears out it's welcome if it goes on long enough.

This. I find 5-6 seasons to be the ideal length for a show, with 10 being the upper limit.

Anything beyond that usually just takes a turn for the worse. Like "this shit is still going?"

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Lyrica
10/31/21 3:03:43 PM
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HylianFox posted...
This. I find 5-6 seasons to be the ideal length for a show, with 10 being the upper limit.

Anything beyond that usually just takes a turn for the worse. Like "this shit is still going?"

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spanky1
10/31/21 3:04:42 PM
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Shameless honestly. The show, Shameless, I mean.
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HylianFox
10/31/21 3:07:22 PM
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The problem with Game of Thrones is they stupidly decided to make a show based on a series of novels that is not finished yet and as such had no idea how it should end. Thus the absolute POS that was the final season.

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ssj3vegeta2
10/31/21 3:11:21 PM
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Game of thrones obviously

Its so crazy how hyped dis show was and den everyone forgets about it cause of dat final season
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XxKrazyChaosxX
10/31/21 3:15:26 PM
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Now that the show is coming to it's end I think the show should have been 10-12 episode seasons instead of 16. There was a lot of filler in the show. They had a pretty big cast of characters but instead of telling different perspectives in one episode they would focus on one characters perspective and return back to it a few episodes later.

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Sheiky-Baby
10/31/21 3:19:43 PM
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ssj3vegeta2 posted...
Game of thrones obviously

Its so crazy how hyped dis show was and den everyone forgets about it cause of dat final season
Way of the fidget spinner

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Cobra1010
10/31/21 3:50:41 PM
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The show pulls too much 'subvert your expectations' to the point where the characters actions contradict themselves.

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General-Secura
10/31/21 4:07:54 PM
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Glenn's death was taken straight from the comics. People shouldn't have been surprised in the slightest.
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Slayerblade11
10/31/21 4:17:12 PM
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General-Secura posted...
Glenn's death was taken straight from the comics. People shouldn't have been surprised in the slightest.

Daryll doesn't exist in the comics but became the #2 and #1 character.. They coulda changed any number of things from the comics
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TldrReturns
10/31/21 4:28:03 PM
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People getting mad about Glenn dying was hilarious, thats what happens in the comics.

Anyways, Game of Thrones dropped way more in quality

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Smackems
10/31/21 4:39:21 PM
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Game of Thrones completely fucked itself in season 8

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Strider102
10/31/21 4:58:32 PM
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No one is really mad that Glenn died, they're mad about the whole dumpster deal which honestly was completely fucking stupid.

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CommonStar
10/31/21 5:04:22 PM
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The Blacklist. They completely made their lead character unlikable for 2 or so seasons and then killed her off before we got any answers. Now they've done a soft reboot with this current season while not answering any of the questions that came from everything leading up to the previous season. They've also did a post humous revision of what the character was like through dialogues of current characters on the show. Stuff like "she would've wanted X" or "I remember her as Y" and it's completely not at all how the character was.
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Cobra1010
10/31/21 6:50:08 PM
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If they cut out all the crap, each season would be like 8-9 episodes each and then the series would be good. Even the governor arc felt dragged.

The quality dropped right off after they sacked Frank Darabont for season 2. But i think it was around the negan arc where i finally couldnt take it anymore. AMC got too greedy with those commecial money dragging the series. You get like a full episode of Carol wondering if she should kill one episode, and another episode shes rambo. Then you'd get another episode of Tara running around in the woods.

I think most viewers want the story to have a proper begining, middle and end. But they lost that, they just wanted to keep milking it. And this is what we have now.

They killed off Carl for shock value when theres so much invested into him. So that leaves Rick with no purpose. I wonder if thats why the actor left, cause he doesnt know how to play the character anymore.

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FurryPhilosifer
10/31/21 6:59:31 PM
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Game of Thrones obviously sucked at the end, but at least it bloody ended. The Walking Dead may as well be a soap opera for how much they're dragging it out.

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EnterTheTekken
10/31/21 7:14:23 PM
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The comics of TWD have not been completely followed. A fair amount of major changes happened, including:

Rick's hand not being cut off
Andrea dying early
Carol living & Daryl existing
Carl dying, Rick "dying"
Judith living
Michonne & Rick having a relationship
Gabriel, Ezekiel, Rosita all living

So those saying the comics have to be religiously followed...the showrunners are not of that belief.


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RchHomieQuanChi
10/31/21 8:03:38 PM
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The thing with The Walking Dead is that it has a bad habit of introducing cool characters but killing them off before they get to make any real impact on the story.

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Hayame Zero
10/31/21 8:06:10 PM
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The show turned things around with the Whispers, but by then, nobody really gave a shit anymore. Once a series hit season 6 or 7, the popularity starts dropping significantly.

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Hexenherz
10/31/21 8:12:34 PM
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Sliders.

**SERIES SPOILERS**

The main premise was that a college student and his girlfriend, professor and a random musician or artist get stuck traveling between alternate versions of earth trying to find their own home earth.

The problem is the writers failed to develop any sort of meaningful underlying plot to develop conflict to the show. This wasn't too bad because the show itself was really interesting and fun.

But they *tried* to build a couple plots.... at some point they encounter an evil version of the professor, and you don't know if the "evil" professor replaced the good one. But it doesn't matter because he ends up acting the exact same.

There's also a story about these Cromagnum things that can control interdimensional travel and are enslaving the different versions of Earth, except the encounters with them just turn into the characters being like "lol this sucks welp time to get to the portal and escape".

Finally, the student discovers his parents somehow already knew about interdimensional travel and he has a twin brother and his parents hid his twin brother on another earth and they find each other?

Then you get to the final season. The first episode... the main fucking character and his brother are 100% gone. They were captured by a mad scientist who merges them into one person played by a completely different actor.

Honestly I gave up at that point, the show was just like wtf.

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RchHomieQuanChi
10/31/21 8:17:10 PM
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Can we also throw The Flash into it?

First two seasons were campy comic book fun, with some CW cringe, but still very enjoyable.

Then it got gradually more CW as time went on as Flash himself started to take a backseat to the bajillion side characters they introduced, with an unnecessary amount of focus on what's essentially teen drama being done by adults.

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Coca-Cola
10/31/21 8:24:41 PM
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What about the Simpsons? Went from one of the most popular and highly rated shows in the world to soulless, unwatchable crap

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DandyQuackShot
10/31/21 8:37:57 PM
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Coca-Cola posted...
What about the Simpsons? Went from one of the most popular and highly rated shows in the world to soulless, unwatchable crap


True this. I didnt realize it was still running when I went and visited my folks and if happened to be on.

The Walking Dead was pretty epic when it first came on and then everybodys mothers uncle was soon watching it and then...everybodys mothers uncle was posting spoilers on Facebook. The show was intense because it took the comic book and made it real life. Like Spider Man having a meltdown real life because hes got silk spinning out of his butt. This was Walking Dead, you didnt know what was going to happen next but it wasnt going to be good or last long if the characters made it somewhere safe.

So many characters stood out that killing them off made no sense because it killed off the hope that they would find somewhere safe and end the show. So like the comic book there was never an end game in place, just a constant replacement of characters who started to get boring and more boring as it went on.

Tgry should have ended it at Alexandria or somewhere on a tropical island while Daryl got his own spin off of Walker Crossbow Season which would have never got old

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DandyQuackShot
10/31/21 8:44:45 PM
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Smallville

So many seasons and only ONE ending that everyone knew was coming but took forever.

LOST

Cool pilot and then the writers be like We dont even know w he at this show is about

Supernatural

Got to the point you could watch an episode every other four years and still know whats going on. The god stuff was way stupid. But the final ending itself hit hard and made you miss the reason you watched it in the first place.

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bulletproofvita
10/31/21 8:56:31 PM
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Cobra1010 posted...
If they cut out all the crap, each season would be like 8-9 episodes each and then the series would be good. Even the governor arc felt dragged.

The quality dropped right off after they sacked Frank Darabont for season 2. But i think it was around the negan arc where i finally couldnt take it anymore. AMC got too greedy with those commecial money dragging the series. You get like a full episode of Carol wondering if she should kill one episode, and another episode shes rambo. Then you'd get another episode of Tara running around in the woods.

I think most viewers want the story to have a proper begining, middle and end. But they lost that, they just wanted to keep milking it. And this is what we have now.

They killed off Carl for shock value when theres so much invested into him. So that leaves Rick with no purpose. I wonder if thats why the actor left, cause he doesnt know how to play the character anymore.
Spot on!
The show was amazing the first six seasons. Then after all the changes behind the scenes and some "SJW" stuff, the show took a hit. Mostly became super boring.
I wish shows could recognise when they need to quit.
Breaking Bad is a perfect example of a show which is compact and quality all the way through.

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Tyranthraxus
10/31/21 8:58:00 PM
#50:


skermac posted...
dexter isnt finished a new season is coming soon
Just because Dexter is coming back doesn't mean it didn't shit itself

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