Current Events > Hot Take: If you *need* to be offensive to be funny, you're not funny.

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HylianFox
10/30/21 11:01:05 PM
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I'm just sayin'

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TheVipaGTS
10/30/21 11:02:05 PM
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Yea offensive humor is fine...its when your entire act is just made up of offensive humor that it stops being funny.

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RoseLuck2X22462
10/30/21 11:03:59 PM
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Wahh

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sevihaimerej
10/30/21 11:11:18 PM
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Hard disagree, if you can be funny in any context you are funny. You're dishonestly using your own bar for what's offensive when determining this, I can tell, now imagine if you will what an evangelical Christian finds offensive and you may start to see the problem.

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BloodMoon7
10/30/21 11:12:35 PM
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My humor is like starving. Not everyone gets water.

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Shablagoo
10/30/21 11:13:02 PM
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*says something incredibly bigoted*

*people say to stop*

omfg cancel culture waaaahhhhhhhh

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Derwood
10/30/21 11:13:16 PM
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sevihaimerej posted...
Hard disagree, if you can be funny in any context you are funny. You're dishonestly using your own bar for what's offensive when determining this, I can tell, now imagine if you will what an evangelical Christian finds offensive and you may start to see the problem.

Reread the topic title
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sevihaimerej
10/30/21 11:49:29 PM
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Derwood posted...
Reread the topic title
The topic title doesn't make sense. Perhaps you could say that the comedian that *needs* to be offensive is less talented but not 'not funny'. If you can make people laugh, offensive (subjective af) or not, you are funny. What, did I miss the part that was supposed to stop my brain from melting trying to understand this paradox that both is and isn't funny?

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Trumble
10/31/21 12:00:37 AM
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A joke that's actually funny but also offensive is still funny.

Simply parroting a stereotype or a slur is not funny.

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trappedunderice
10/31/21 12:01:44 AM
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HagenEx
10/31/21 12:01:59 AM
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I don't think anybody "needs" to be offensive. They do it cause it adds to the fun.

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Shablagoo
10/31/21 12:02:04 AM
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Trumble posted...
A joke that's actually funny but also offensive is still funny.

Simply parroting a stereotype or a slur is not funny.

exactly

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Xethuminra
10/31/21 12:03:10 AM
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trappedunderice posted...
Yes and No
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ledbowman
10/31/21 12:04:00 AM
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it's fun to do bad things

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IndustrialTrudg
10/31/21 12:07:02 AM
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Ok but theres nothing wrong with being offensive to be offended, and nothing should be off limits imo.

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Shablagoo
10/31/21 12:07:04 AM
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ledbowman posted...
it's fun to do bad things

Is this the new official motto of the Republican Party?

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IndustrialTrudg
10/31/21 12:08:52 AM
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Shablagoo posted...
Is this the new official motto of the Republican Party?

I remember when offensive humor and rebellion were considered left wing

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muchdran
10/31/21 12:09:15 AM
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Hot take, get out of that ce bubble.
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Shablagoo
10/31/21 12:10:00 AM
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IndustrialTrudg posted...
I remember when offensive humor and rebellion were considered left wing

bad things are not synonymous with rebellion

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TheVipaGTS
10/31/21 12:11:28 AM
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IndustrialTrudg posted...
Ok but theres nothing wrong with being offensive to be offended, and nothing should be off limits imo.
what's wrong with it is its not funny. And either way, getting criticized doesn't mean its off limits.

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sevihaimerej
10/31/21 12:13:39 AM
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Shablagoo posted...
bad things are not synonymous with rebellion
From the subjective perspective of those being rebelled against...rebellion is bad.

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IndustrialTrudg
10/31/21 12:14:06 AM
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TheVipaGTS posted...
what's wrong with it is its not funny. And either way, getting criticized doesn't mean its off limits.

Offensive stuff isnt funny? Who decided that? Who decides whats funny to other people?

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AloneIBreak
10/31/21 12:14:13 AM
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Seems pretty false. You can hang your hat on offensive humor and still be funny. Being offensive in and of itself isn't necessarily funny though, and some people are funny without it (Brian Regan comes to mind). The whole "if you're offensive, you're not funny" argument reminds me of the anti-alcohol stance where "needing" to drink to have fun is a sign of how not fun one is. Just good old-fashioned puritanism.

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IndustrialTrudg
10/31/21 12:15:47 AM
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AloneIBreak posted...
Seems pretty false. You can hang your hat on offensive humor and still be funny. Being offensive in and of itself isn't necessarily funny though, and some people are funny without it (Brian Regan comes to mind). The whole "if you're offensive, you're not funny" argument reminds me of the anti-alcohol stance where "needing" to drink to have fun is a sign of how not fun one is. Just good old-fashioned puritanism.

Well said.

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TheVipaGTS
10/31/21 12:16:46 AM
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IndustrialTrudg posted...
Offensive stuff isnt funny? Who decided that? Who decides whats funny to other people?
no. you said there is nothing wrong with it. I'm saying, if its not funny there is something wrong with it. simply being offensive doesn't automatically make it funny. and if someone criticizes it that doesn't mean its "off limits"...go ahead and say it. but if its not funny im gonna criticize it. Its like if i said "whats the deal with asian people man? Always eating RICE...using ChOPSTICKS!..'oh me do math har har!'"...

that's not funny, its just a bunch of stupid stereotypes. I'd criticize it and call the comedian out for simply being offensive for the sake of being offensive.....because its not funny.

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sevihaimerej
10/31/21 12:24:05 AM
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TheVipaGTS posted...
no. you said there is nothing wrong with it. I'm saying, if its not funny there is something wrong with it. simply being offensive doesn't automatically make it funny. and if someone criticizes it that doesn't mean its "off limits"...go ahead and say it. but if its not funny im gonna criticize it. Its like if i said "whats the deal with asian people man? Always eating RICE...using ChOPSTICKS!..'oh me do math har har!'"...

that's not funny, its just a bunch of stupid stereotypes. I'd criticize it and call the comedian out for simply being offensive for the sake of being offensive.....because its not funny.
Holy shit...this is a Dave Chappelle topic in disguise, there's too much salt in these posts for it not to be.

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TheVipaGTS
10/31/21 12:25:51 AM
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i don't see how my post had anything to do with Chappelle...I haven't seen his special yet and have no comment on it one way or another.

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Feline_Heart
10/31/21 12:26:39 AM
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TheVipaGTS posted...
Yea offensive humor is fine...its when your entire act is just made up of offensive humor that it stops being funny.
Anthony Jeselnik is funny

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IndustrialTrudg
10/31/21 12:26:43 AM
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TheVipaGTS posted...
no. you said there is nothing wrong with it. I'm saying, if its not funny there is something wrong with it. simply being offensive doesn't automatically make it funny. and if someone criticizes it that doesn't mean its "off limits"...go ahead and say it. but if its not funny im gonna criticize it. Its like if i said "whats the deal with asian people man? Always eating RICE...using ChOPSTICKS!..'oh me do math har har!'"...

that's not funny, its just a bunch of stupid stereotypes. I'd criticize it and call the comedian out for simply being offensive for the sake of being offensive.....because its not funny.

Stereotypes can be funny if done right.

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TheVipaGTS
10/31/21 12:28:38 AM
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IndustrialTrudg posted...
Stereotypes can be funny if done right.
Yea...we're agreeing here. but you said there is nothing wrong with being offensive for the sake of being offensive. And im saying there is something wrong with it...when its not funny.

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IndustrialTrudg
10/31/21 12:30:49 AM
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TheVipaGTS posted...
Yea...we're agreeing here. but you said there is nothing wrong with being offensive for the sake of being offensive. And im saying there is something wrong with it...when its not funny.
Well then I misunderstood.

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sevihaimerej
10/31/21 12:35:37 AM
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TheVipaGTS posted...
i don't see how my post had anything to do with Chappelle...I haven't seen his special yet and have no comment on it one way or another.
I know I know, I'm fishing for an example of what you mean. Never seen a stand-up routine resembling what you describe so I'm curious to see what this looks like.

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Xethuminra
10/31/21 12:36:32 AM
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TheVipaGTS
10/31/21 12:37:47 AM
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sevihaimerej posted...
I know I know, I'm fishing for an example of what you mean. Never seen a stand-up routine resembling what you describe so I'm curious to see what this looks like.
Comedy isnt exclusive to stand up routines.

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Clutch
10/31/21 12:43:51 AM
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Hotter take: it actually takes more skill to find humor in offensive topics.

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Clutch
10/31/21 12:44:23 AM
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TheVipaGTS posted...
Comedy isnt exclusive to stand up routines.

Thats its purest form.

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DrizztLink
10/31/21 12:51:12 AM
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Clutch posted...
Thats its purest form.
Incorrect.

Comedy in its purest form is a dog farting so loud it scares itself.

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Pepys Monster
10/31/21 1:16:05 AM
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trappedunderice posted...
LOL

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sevihaimerej
10/31/21 1:23:53 AM
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TheVipaGTS posted...
Comedy isnt exclusive to stand up routines.
The correct answer was Carlos Mencia...

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FurryPhilosifer
10/31/21 1:29:29 AM
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Clutch posted...
Hotter take: it actually takes more skill to find humor in offensive topics.
True. Even better if they can get a joke beyond "let's all laugh at these persecuted minorities".

Jokes about sensitive topics can be great. The subject isn't off limits. You just have to you know, not be an asshole.

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Smackems
10/31/21 1:31:59 AM
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DrizztLink posted...
Incorrect.

Comedy in its purest form is a dog farting so loud it scares itself.
Teehee

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Derwood
10/31/21 10:23:25 AM
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sevihaimerej posted...
The topic title doesn't make sense. Perhaps you could say that the comedian that *needs* to be offensive is less talented but not 'not funny'. If you can make people laugh, offensive (subjective af) or not, you are funny. What, did I miss the part that was supposed to stop my brain from melting trying to understand this paradox that both is and isn't funny?

TC isn't saying "no one can ever be offensive ever". That's how you replied, though.

What TC is saying is "if the only way you can be 'funny' is by being offensive, maybe you're not actually funny"
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sevihaimerej
10/31/21 10:51:00 AM
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Derwood posted...
TC isn't saying "no one can ever be offensive ever". That's how you replied, though.

What TC is saying is "if the only way you can be 'funny' is by being offensive, maybe you're not actually funny"
That...is exactly what I'm disagreeing with. At least you differentiate between funny and 'funny' so as not to create a paradox, I wouldn't disagree with that, but the point still stands that even if one leans onto the crutch of offensive comedy with all their being and absolutely can't make someone laugh without it they are not 'not funny' they're just perhaps less talented than a comedian with a broader repertoire. The way you word it actually makes more sense, the implication of the first 'funny' is that nobody is laughing which solves my only gripe with this topic...

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Derwood
10/31/21 11:22:39 AM
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sevihaimerej posted...
That...is exactly what I'm disagreeing with. At least you differentiate between funny and 'funny' so as not to create a paradox, I wouldn't disagree with that, but the point still stands that even if one leans onto the crutch of offensive comedy with all their being and absolutely can't make someone laugh without it they are not 'not funny' they're just perhaps less talented than a comedian with a broader repertoire. The way you word it actually makes more sense, the implication of the first 'funny' is that nobody is laughing which solves my only gripe with this topic...


There are plenty of comedians who are hilarious without punching down. I think the argument is against any comedian who complains that they can't do any material without being offensive. I think we're on the same page here
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_Angel_
10/31/21 11:37:35 AM
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George Carlin was offensive as fuck and he's a legend

It's all down to comedic skill...if you're funny you're funny.

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MushroomMuncher
10/31/21 11:54:34 AM
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I think a lot of these people who talk about "punching down" only want jokes on easy targets and big targets. Like Dave making that joke about a pedophile priest, that's an easy target.
Thing is, if you're only allowed to go after big and easy targets, every stand up ends up doing jokes on them, and then it gets old really fast. You know how every stand up makes some joke about cancel culture? Because its an easy target. And now everyone is sick of them. That's why some stand ups try to spice it up, but you apparently can't do that without offending someone.

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420TwiZtiD420
10/31/21 12:14:20 PM
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Strongly disagree. Anything can be humorous. Anything.

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codey
11/01/21 10:51:11 AM
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Eh I disagree. If you're act is just offensive but not funny, you're not funny. If the offensive stuff is funny, though, it's funny.

Like, Bob Sagets act is just offensive shit, and it's not funny at all. But then you have someone like Anthony Jeselnik that is only offensive But is funny.

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FortuneCookie
11/01/21 10:57:50 AM
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I'm not justifying the people who laugh at animal cruelty, racism, molestation, and other contemptable subject matters.

But, in a general sense, all humor is by definition offense. Humor is a defense mechanism for what offends our sensibilities. You laugh at a dog in a skirt because a dog's not supposed to wear a skirt. You laugh at slapstick because you have compassion for the victim. You laugh at an awkward conversation because you imagine how bad you'd feel in that situation.

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Stewman_Magoo
11/01/21 11:01:18 AM
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Offensive humor can be funny. Just most of the time it's not.

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