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Lorkhaj
10/24/21 10:19:05 PM
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https://nymag.com/intelligencer/2021/10/new-york-post-photos-show-horrific-overcrowding-at-rikers.html
https://twitter.com/msolurin/status/1451563084007477248

How's that carceral state working out

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Lorkhaj
10/24/21 10:21:36 PM
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ThisWaterIsDry posted...
Oh no!

Anyway
Yes we know you're an alt with terrible opinions. Thanks for the reminder though.

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UnholyMudcrab
10/24/21 10:22:08 PM
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ThisWaterIsDry posted...
Oh no!

Anyway
Well that's a 15 karma account post if I've ever seen one

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Cheater87
10/24/21 10:22:21 PM
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Is that a maximum security place?

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pick4six
10/24/21 10:23:31 PM
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Land of the Free btw

America is so fucked up

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Irony
10/24/21 10:23:54 PM
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Send Trump there

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Lorkhaj
10/24/21 10:25:17 PM
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Cheater87 posted...
Is that a maximum security place?
No, these are intake cells where people are waiting to be processed. Many will get bail pending trial, many will be found innocent or have charges dropped.

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cjsdowg
10/24/21 10:25:18 PM
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Cheater87 posted...
Is that a maximum security place?

Rikers is a jail not a prison. SO many people there have not been convicted of anything.

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Flauros
10/24/21 10:42:58 PM
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Lorkhaj
10/24/21 10:43:22 PM
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Flauros posted...
Makes me not want to go to prison.
Good thing nobody there is in prison eh

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ForsakenHermit
10/24/21 10:44:43 PM
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Makes me want to stay the hell away from NYC.

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Flauros
10/24/21 10:46:10 PM
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Lorkhaj posted...
Good thing nobody there is in prison eh
Just imagine how bad the prison would be. A short stay there would probably scare the most hardened man straight.

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ThisWaterIsDry
10/24/21 10:47:33 PM
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Flauros posted...
Makes me not want to go to prison.

ForsakenHermit posted...
Makes me want to stay the hell away from NYC.

No shit lol

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SapphicBoy
10/24/21 10:47:35 PM
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Flauros posted...
Just imagine how bad the prison would be. A short stay there would probably scare the most hardened man straight.
Rikers is a jail. Known for inhuman treatment of inmates, and indeterminate holding periods

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ForsakenHermit
10/24/21 10:49:43 PM
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Flauros posted...
Just imagine how bad the prison would be. A short stay there would probably scare the most hardened man straight.
Some excons say jail is actually worse

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kRVCBHwZq9s

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kingdrake2
10/24/21 11:02:19 PM
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ForsakenHermit posted...
Some excons say jail is actually worse


they're actually right.
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MrCokeacola
10/24/21 11:04:28 PM
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I don't see any issues here. Is this not normal for america?

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TheChariot
10/24/21 11:07:40 PM
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America, the land of the shit and the home of the DAMNED!

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ledbowman
10/24/21 11:09:31 PM
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it's not hard to follow the rules

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Northlane
10/24/21 11:10:59 PM
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Don't do the crime if you can't do the time

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Antifar
10/24/21 11:11:31 PM
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Flauros posted...
Just imagine how bad the prison would be. A short stay there would probably scare the most hardened man straight.
Something you might be interested in learning is that there's no evidence that incarceration reduces crime, and research suggests, if anything, the opposite.

https://www.journals.uchicago.edu/doi/10.1086/715100
Based on a much larger meta-analysis of 116 studies, the current analysis shows that custodial sanctions have no effect on reoffending or slightly increase it when compared with the effects of noncustodial sanctions such as probation. This finding is robust regardless of variations in methodological rigor, types of sanctions examined, and sociodemographic characteristics of samples. All sophisticated assessments of the research have independently reached the same conclusion. The null effect of custodial compared with noncustodial sanctions is considered a criminological fact. Incarceration cannot be justified on the grounds it affords public safety by decreasing recidivism.

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Lorkhaj
10/24/21 11:13:57 PM
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Northlane posted...
Don't do the crime if you can't do the time
Are you under the impression that all people who go to jail are guilty, or that these aberrant conditions are normal?

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ThisWaterIsDry
10/24/21 11:17:50 PM
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Antifar posted...
Something you might be interested in learning is that there's no evidence that incarceration reduces crime, and research suggests, if anything, the opposite.

https://www.journals.uchicago.edu/doi/10.1086/715100

The laws are clear yet it doesn't stop people from violating them.

What now?

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Inferno Dive Dragoon
10/24/21 11:25:16 PM
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And the US still thinks it's a first-world country, lol.
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DemonBuffet
10/24/21 11:30:48 PM
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ThisWaterIsDry posted...
The laws are clear yet it doesn't stop people from violating them.

What now?

Yeah, so whats the solution? Dont stop people from killing, raping, stealing, etc because studies show jail is detrimental to ones health?
People act like we live in a etopia where if we show compassion to criminals, they will suddenly change their ways and we will all live happily ever after.

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Antifar
10/24/21 11:33:26 PM
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DemonBuffet posted...
Dont stop people from killing, raping, stealing, etc because studies show jail is detrimental to ones health?
Studies show jail doesn't reduce the rate at which people do those things. The solution you're proposing to the problem is one that, all research suggests, does not actually fix the problem.

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ForsakenHermit
10/24/21 11:34:59 PM
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DemonBuffet posted...
Yeah, so whats the solution? Dont stop people from killing, raping, stealing, etc because studies show jail is detrimental to ones health?
People act like we live in a etopia where if we show compassion to criminals, they will suddenly change their ways and we will all live happily ever after.
Part of the problem with our prison system is that we lock up people for stupid shit and then stack the probation system against them when they are let out and thus over inflate the prison population.

I'm not someone who thinks unrepentant mass murderers should be playing PS2 and X-Box all day but our prison system needs a lot of work.

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Umbreon
10/24/21 11:37:06 PM
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MrCokeacola posted...
I don't see any issues here. Is this not normal for america?

That IS the issue...

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UnholyMudcrab
10/24/21 11:40:34 PM
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That guy didn't get warned or anything. He didn't even lose karma for that.
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Lorkhaj
10/24/21 11:47:15 PM
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UnholyMudcrab posted...
That guy didn't get warned or anything. He didn't even lose karma for that.
You'd think the 15 karma obvious alt would be treated a little more harshly, given some of the baffling shit that's gotten my accounts banned lately.

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sabrestorm
10/24/21 11:48:33 PM
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Rikers needs to be closed asap

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Lorkhaj
10/25/21 12:23:30 AM
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Okay smo

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Lorkhaj
10/25/21 1:14:13 AM
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Okay smo. We all know what you're known for on this site lol

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Lorkhaj
10/25/21 1:26:06 AM
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Ohhhh that isnt what youre known for

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Dreepapult
10/25/21 1:44:01 AM
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Wow that's awful

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Umbreon
10/25/21 1:54:53 AM
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Lorkhaj posted...
Ohhhh that isnt what youre known for


I'm sure a lot of people have him tagged appropriately.

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Kastrada
10/25/21 3:41:53 AM
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So basically OZ's prison system was better than what America has now? Or it was always better?

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ReignFury
10/25/21 3:47:00 AM
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I want to say fuck these people but then I remembered how judges get kickbacks for filling occupancy at for-profit prisons. A lot of these guys are there for infractions and petty misdemeanors.

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g0ldie
10/25/21 4:07:19 AM
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ledbowman posted...
it's not hard to follow the rules

Northlane posted...
Don't do the crime if you can't do the time


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Kastrada
10/25/21 4:11:45 AM
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ReignFury posted...
I want to say fuck these people but then I remembered how judges get kickbacks for filling occupancy at for-profit prisons. A lot of these guys are there for infractions and petty misdemeanors.

I mean Kaleif Browder was thrown in Rikers without having committed a crime not getting a trial.

So some of those people are simply kidnapping victims.

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ncsonic
10/25/21 4:15:30 AM
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Kastrada posted...
I mean Kaleif Browder was thrown in Rikers without having committed a crime not getting a trial.

So some of those people are simply kidnapping victims.
It's one of the most real life horror stories I ever heard tbh, I can't imagine going through that hell

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DJquackquack
10/25/21 4:16:04 AM
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Northlane posted...
Don't do the crime if you can't do the time
Your signature literally says It is possible to commit no mistakes and still lose. So you already know how easy it is for innocent people to be unfairly imprisoned.

In other words, youre just an unempathetic hypocrite.
@Northlane

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ReignFury
10/25/21 4:53:23 AM
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Kastrada posted...
I mean Kaleif Browder was thrown in Rikers without having committed a crime not getting a trial.

So some of those people are simply kidnapping victims.

He was at Rikers? Damn, that just shows the damage they do. I'd say there are a lot of innocent men thrown in there.

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