Current Events > New "Realistic Light Saber Duel" short by Corridor Digital

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Corridor Digital's new Short titled: "To The Death"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AAzY28C8Syc

BtS (Behind the Scenes) on the making of said short and the reasoning behind it's creation and why are there all these changes.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hp-D-488Yxk

I really enjoyed it, it's quite different from traditional light saber duels.

I especially liked the realistic use of HEMA / Practical Sword Forms & Techniques and no use of "The Force".

Just a focus on pure swordsmanship.

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That was stupid

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Eh, weird choice to go with longsword forms when more fencing-oriented movements would probably be the practical evolution for lightsabers. Also not the best HEMA choreography, a lot of strikes without real intent. Lots of "hitting the pinata" stuff.

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KamenRiderBlade posted...

Practical Sword Forms

Eh. That makes for good choreography but there's a few problems with this as a concept applied to light sabers.

1. Real sword forms are accounting for the balance and leverage of the grip. Lightsabers are effectively weightless beyond the handle.
2. Lightsabers are omnidirectional cutting and there are things you can do with a sword that would kill yourself if you did them with a lightsaber.
3. The nature of the lethality of the saber and its cutting potential would lean towards stabbing / thrusting motions to be the predominant method of combat. A real fight would look more like a fencing match instead of a more conventional sword duel.

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Tyranthraxus posted...

Eh. That makes for good choreography but there's a few problems with this as a concept applied to light sabers.

1. Real sword forms are accounting for the balance and leverage of the grip. Lightsabers are effectively weightless beyond the handle.
2. Lightsabers are omnidirectional cutting and there are things you can do with a sword that would kill yourself if you did them with a lightsaber.
3. The nature of the lethality of the saber and its cutting potential would lean towards stabbing / thrusting motions to be the predominant method of combat. A real fight would look more like a fencing match instead of a more conventional sword duel.

Blame the Action Choreographer, he's the one who thought of the choreography while using real physical Light-Sabers as stand-ins for weightless Light-Saber blades.

It could be that the Action Choreographer's background wasn't in Fencing, but more into traditional Sword Styles.

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i'm really hoping all the technical sword fighting stuff makes it into the WoT show. even if it'll likely not be until later in the series.

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I never realized how energy in-efficient a Light Saber or one of those Star Wars Blasters really are.

They guzzle energy down like nobody's business.

https://www.rakuten.com/blog/how-many-batteries-star-wars/

Lightsabers
Lightsabers are powered by high-output diatium power cells, which are capable of recharging naturally. The blade neither radiates heat nor expends energy until it comes into contact with the solid item it is striking.
Qui-Gon Jinn used his lightsaber to cut into the thick blast doors of Nute Gunrays bridge. The doors were 2.35 meters tall and over a meter thick. Qui-Gons lightsaber cut a circular area approximately 0.9 meters in diameter.
In order to melt 0.87 cubic meters of conventional steel, it would require approximately 1.69 gigajoules of thermal energy. That is equivalent to 469,482 watt-hours, slightly more energy than one lightning bolt.
One lightsaber has the equivalent energy of 120,380 AA batteries (thats 6,000 pounds of batteries or 250 gallons, enough to fill-up a kiddie pool). Its also equivalent to 650 car batteries (thats 26,000 pounds, exceeding the 20,000-pound maximum weight of a single-axle semi-trailer). One lightsaber is also equivalent to 67 Tesla Powerwalls, 0.28 barrels of oil (5.5 gallons of gas), one nuclear reactor or 0.05 seconds of Earths power supply.

Kylo Rens Lightsabers
It doesnt appear there is any reason to assume that Kylo Rens lightsaber was capable of generating any more or less power than any other lightsaber.
In one scene, he is shown using the crossguard to burn through Finns jacket, causing a small burn. A small lightsaber-sized second-degree burn requires about 166 joules of energy as a low-end estimate. It seems it could be assumed that the crossguard blades are capable of outputting similar power to the full-size blade.
How many batteries would it take to power a lightsaber that uses 2.5 gigajoules of energy or 694,500 watt hours? The answer is 180,570 AA batteries or 975 car batteries. Thats equivalent to 101 Tesla Powerwalls, 0.42 barrels of oil, 1.5 nuclear reactors or 0.07 seconds of Earths power supply.

Blasters
According to Han Solo, ancient Jedi weapons are no match for a good blaster at your side. Firing bursts of focused particle beam energy (bolts), a blaster gets its power from two main components: Energy-rich blaster gas from a cartridge and a replaceable power pack.
The blaster bolts carry no heat themselves, but materials struck by them deform and fuse like when Princess Leia blasted a hole through a metal grate using an E-11 blaster rifle while escaping from the Death Star.
A hole was blasted big enough for Chewbacca to pass through, probably about 3 feet wide. An estimate on the mass of the grate is approximately 54 kilograms. Roughly 6.34 megajoules is needed to vaporize 1 kilogram of iron, so the blast yielded approximately 342 megajoules.
Power usage is comparable between lightsabers and blasters. Jedi in the Star Wars universe have been known to use power packs to charge up their lightsabers.
The 342 megajoules to power a baster is equivalent to 24,360 AA batteries, 132 car batteries, 14 Tesla Powerwalls (that would weigh as much as two cows or half a Bantha), 0.06 barrels of oil (approximately 1 gallon of gas; thats $2.29 per shot!), 1 nuclear reactor for three blasts a second, or 0.01 seconds of Earths power supply.

I guess a regular physical Sword FTW, no need to guzzle energy just to cut things

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BRAyIXgWBWc

I enjoyed the little dig at the prequels.

He starts pirouetting and spinning the sword and shit, teacher rolls his eyes and disembowels him through the gaping hole in his guard.

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DrizztLink posted...

I enjoyed the little dig at the prequels.

He starts pirouetting and spinning the sword and shit, teacher rolls his eyes and disembowels him through the gaping hole in his guard.

As anybody with half a brain should do so.

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that was a neat swordfight but why did they have to be lightsabers

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ApherosyLove posted...

that was a neat swordfight but why did they have to be lightsabers

Watch the BTS video, they explain why.

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Pogo_Marimo posted...

Also not the best HEMA choreography, a lot of strikes without real intent. Lots of "hitting the pinata" stuff.

This is my biggest complaint. I think it only comes from being presented to me as "realistic" though. Had I just seen it raw I think it would be pretty cool aside from the cheese.

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This one is more realistic:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H_Z9orDS84c

Jabba the Hutt vs an Ewock

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KamenRiderBlade posted...

Watch the BTS video, they explain why.

Yeah I literally started it as soon as I hit post lmfao sorry

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