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MedeaLysistrata 10/24/21 12:32:37 AM #1:	This will be my 3rd time trying --- "Why is ontology so expensive?" - JH [Is this live?][Joyless planet...] <cite>MedeaLysistrata posted [p:959331857] in If this to... [t:79725623]...</cite> <quote>This will be my 3rd time trying </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Kiyune 10/24/21 12:37:02 AM #2:	what's heidegger, all i know is the resident evil guy --- The legend has been silenced for over seven hundred years... And now, the mystery unfolds. <cite>Kiyune posted [p:959331949] in If this to... [t:79725623]...</cite> <quote>what's heidegger, all i know is the resident evil guy </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
MedeaLysistrata 10/24/21 12:38:55 AM #3:	Kiyune posted... what's heidegger, all i know is the resident evil guy Return of Ontology Germany's Ontological Counter Attack My posts don't count --- "Why is ontology so expensive?" - JH [Is this live?][Joyless planet...] <cite>MedeaLysistrata posted [p:959331988] in If this to... [t:79725623]...</cite> <quote>Kiyune posted... </cite> <quote>what's heidegger, all i know is the resident evil guy</quote>Return of Ontology Germany's Ontological Counter Attack My posts don't count </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Nukazie 10/24/21 12:48:32 AM #4:	--- Life is just a journey from the maternity ward to the crematorium. <cite>Nukazie posted [p:959332147] in If this to... [t:79725623]...</cite> <quote> </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
MedeaLysistrata 10/24/21 12:51:45 AM #5:	Nukazie posted... Let the mouse lick it --- "Why is ontology so expensive?" - JH [Is this live?][Joyless planet...] <cite>MedeaLysistrata posted [p:959332203] in If this to... [t:79725623]...</cite> <quote>Nukazie posted... </cite> <quote></quote>Let the mouse lick it </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
toreysback 10/24/21 12:57:29 AM #6:	read some boethius just to warm up --- Last Century Modern <cite>toreysback posted [p:959332303] in If this to... [t:79725623]...</cite> <quote>read some boethius just to warm up </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
MedeaLysistrata 10/24/21 12:58:25 AM #7:	toreysback posted... read some boethius just to warm up Ok I do own a copy of Consolation --- "Why is ontology so expensive?" - JH [Is this live?][Joyless planet...] <cite>MedeaLysistrata posted [p:959332320] in If this to... [t:79725623]...</cite> <quote>toreysback posted... </cite> <quote>read some boethius just to warm up</quote>Ok I do own a copy of Consolation </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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008Zulu 10/24/21 12:59:22 AM #9:	Why so many attempts at trying to read it? --- If you protest, it's because you feel your voice isn't being heard. If you riot, it's because you feel your voice is being ignored. <cite>008Zulu posted [p:959332336] in If this to... [t:79725623]...</cite> <quote>Why so many attempts at trying to read it? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
MedeaLysistrata 10/24/21 1:02:42 AM #10:	008Zulu posted... Why so many attempts at trying to read it? Too much info to take in at once, not intimately familiar with all the sources and historical context, my copy literally has Greek words in it, it's long, etc --- "Why is ontology so expensive?" - JH [Is this live?][Joyless planet...] <cite>MedeaLysistrata posted [p:959332391] in If this to... [t:79725623]...</cite> <quote>008Zulu posted... </cite> <quote>Why so many attempts at trying to read it?</quote>Too much info to take in at once, not intimately familiar with all the sources and historical context, my copy literally has Greek words in it, it's long, etc </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
MedeaLysistrata 10/24/21 1:20:34 AM #11:	toreysback posted... read some boethius just to warm up Wow I think knowing spoilers for this book might ruin it ~~boethiusis supposed to discern the identity of the woman himself?~~ --- "Why is ontology so expensive?" - JH [Is this live?][Joyless planet...] <cite>MedeaLysistrata posted [p:959332691] in If this to... [t:79725623]...</cite> <quote>toreysback posted... </cite> <quote>read some boethius just to warm up</quote>Wow I think knowing spoilers for this book might ruin it boethiusis supposed to discern the identity of the woman himself? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Xethuminra 10/24/21 1:26:46 AM #13:	<cite>Xethuminra posted [p:959332797] in If this to... [t:79725623]...</cite> <quote> </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
MedeaLysistrata 10/24/21 1:30:12 AM #16:	Msg deleted? --- "Why is ontology so expensive?" - JH [Is this live?][Joyless planet...] <cite>MedeaLysistrata posted [p:959332852] in If this to... [t:79725623]...</cite> <quote>Msg deleted? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Xethuminra 10/24/21 1:30:42 AM #17:	MedeaLysistrata posted... Msg deleted? Does it count? Does it not? You dont really know, do you! <cite>Xethuminra posted [p:959332859] in If this to... [t:79725623]...</cite> <quote>MedeaLysistrata posted... </cite> <quote>Msg deleted?</quote>Does it count? Does it not? You dont really know, do you! </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Irony 10/24/21 1:31:05 AM #18:	Kiyune posted... what's heidegger, all i know is the resident evil guy The guy from FF7 --- I am Mogar, God of Irony and The Devourer of Topics. <cite>Irony posted [p:959332862] in If this to... [t:79725623]...</cite> <quote>Kiyune posted... </cite> <quote>what's heidegger, all i know is the resident evil guy</quote>The guy from FF7 </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
AirFresh 10/24/21 1:31:18 AM #19:	In --- Half-shark-alligator-half-man Half man, half shark! <cite>AirFresh posted [p:959332866] in If this to... [t:79725623]...</cite> <quote>In </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Kiyune 10/24/21 1:31:30 AM #20:	Irony posted... The guy from FF7 ohhh him too! --- The legend has been silenced for over seven hundred years... And now, the mystery unfolds. <cite>Kiyune posted [p:959332870] in If this to... [t:79725623]...</cite> <quote>Irony posted... </cite> <quote>The guy from FF7</quote>ohhh him too! </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
MedeaLysistrata 10/24/21 1:32:09 AM #21:	6 more... but I already started reading Boethius... --- "Why is ontology so expensive?" - JH [Is this live?][Joyless planet...] <cite>MedeaLysistrata posted [p:959332878] in If this to... [t:79725623]...</cite> <quote>6 more... but I already started reading Boethius... </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
AldousIsDead 10/24/21 1:33:22 AM #22:	I'm here to egg you on in your self destructive behaviors. --- In simplicity, utility. Through utility, simplicity. <cite>AldousIsDead posted [p:959332901] in If this to... [t:79725623]...</cite> <quote>I'm here to egg you on in your self destructive behaviors. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Lorkhaj 10/24/21 1:33:45 AM #23:	Jetzt musst du Heidegger lesen. --- https://i.imgflip.com/5psdae.jpg The artist formerly known as the artist formerly known as the artist formerly known as RebelElite791 <cite>Lorkhaj posted [p:959332904] in If this to... [t:79725623]...</cite> <quote>Jetzt musst du Heidegger lesen. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
furb 10/24/21 1:35:02 AM #24:	Being and Time is one of my favorites Dasien 4 lyfe but in reality, his work is really dense and full of jargon terms. It might be easier in german, no idea. His relationship with Hannah Arendt and the Nazis is also very interesting. --- You know how fads are. Today it's brains, tomorrow, pierced tongues. Then the next day, pierced brains. -Jane Lane <cite>furb posted [p:959332928] in If this to... [t:79725623]...</cite> <quote>Being and Time is one of my favorites Dasien 4 lyfe but in reality, his work is really dense and full of jargon terms. It might be easier in german, no idea. His relationship with Hannah Arendt and the Nazis is also very interesting. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Kiyune 10/24/21 1:43:32 AM #26:	cuh posted... All I remember is something about confronting death to live an authentic life wait a minute that brings back memories, i've read that or at least something similar before in a college philosophy class and totally forgot about it, i wonder if i still have my handouts that the professor gave me --- The legend has been silenced for over seven hundred years... And now, the mystery unfolds. <cite>Kiyune posted [p:959333069] in If this to... [t:79725623]...</cite> <quote>cuh posted... </cite> <quote>All I remember is something about confronting death to live an authentic life </quote>wait a minute that brings back memories, i've read that or at least something similar before in a college philosophy class and totally forgot about it, i wonder if i still have my handouts that the professor gave me </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
furb 10/24/21 1:47:28 AM #27:	Here's pretentious undgrad me circa 2006. I wrote a final in my 400 level existential philosophy on a mix of these books. Grainy photo with an xbox 360 webcam LOL https://i.imgur.com/pBfMIIR.jpg --- You know how fads are. Today it's brains, tomorrow, pierced tongues. Then the next day, pierced brains. -Jane Lane <cite>furb posted [p:959333129] in If this to... [t:79725623]...</cite> <quote>Here's pretentious undgrad me circa 2006. I wrote a final in my 400 level existential philosophy on a mix of these books. Grainy photo with an xbox 360 webcam LOL https://i.imgur.com/pBfMIIR.jpg </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
MedeaLysistrata 10/24/21 1:51:38 AM #28:	Boethius is OUT, Heiegger is IN --- "Why is ontology so expensive?" - JH [Is this live?][Joyless planet...] <cite>MedeaLysistrata posted [p:959333203] in If this to... [t:79725623]...</cite> <quote>Boethius is OUT, Heiegger is IN </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
furb 10/24/21 1:53:33 AM #29:	So Heidegger is about the Dasein. The Being. Another major concept is "thrownness." https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heideggerian_terminology Have fun The irony is the jargon papers over what is a very life affirming philosophy. --- You know how fads are. Today it's brains, tomorrow, pierced tongues. Then the next day, pierced brains. -Jane Lane <cite>furb posted [p:959333239] in If this to... [t:79725623]...</cite> <quote>So Heidegger is about the Dasein. The Being. Another major concept is "thrownness." https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heideggerian_terminology Have fun The irony is the jargon papers over what is a very life affirming philosophy. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
furb 10/24/21 1:54:36 AM #30:	Perosnally though, Jose Ortega y Gasset and Camus are my favorite of the existential thinkers. Gasset is extremely readable and so is Camus. --- You know how fads are. Today it's brains, tomorrow, pierced tongues. Then the next day, pierced brains. -Jane Lane <cite>furb posted [p:959333269] in If this to... [t:79725623]...</cite> <quote>Perosnally though, Jose Ortega y Gasset and Camus are my favorite of the existential thinkers. Gasset is extremely readable and so is Camus. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
MedeaLysistrata 10/24/21 1:56:15 AM #31:	furb posted... So Heidegger is about the Dasein. The Being. Another major concept is "thrownness." https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heideggerian_terminology Have fun The irony is the jargon papers over what is a very life affirming philosophy. I will probably give up very quickly -_- But maybe I can read one chapter at least, and hopefully "get it" --- "Why is ontology so expensive?" - JH [Is this live?][Joyless planet...] <cite>MedeaLysistrata posted [p:959333291] in If this to... [t:79725623]...</cite> <quote>furb posted... </cite> <quote>So Heidegger is about the Dasein. The Being. Another major concept is "thrownness." https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heideggerian_terminology Have fun The irony is the jargon papers over what is a very life affirming philosophy.</quote>I will probably give up very quickly -_- But maybe I can read one chapter at least, and hopefully "get it" </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
furb 10/24/21 1:59:26 AM #32:	If it doesn't vibe, don't worry about it. Heidegger is a known pain. Not because he's bad a writing but the shear density of jargon. I would suggest giving Gasset or Camus a try though. The former is a journalist and latter a fiction author. So they are much easier to read. --- You know how fads are. Today it's brains, tomorrow, pierced tongues. Then the next day, pierced brains. -Jane Lane <cite>furb posted [p:959333356] in If this to... [t:79725623]...</cite> <quote>If it doesn't vibe, don't worry about it. Heidegger is a known pain. Not because he's bad a writing but the shear density of jargon. I would suggest giving Gasset or Camus a try though. The former is a journalist and latter a fiction author. So they are much easier to read. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
toreysback 10/24/21 2:06:38 AM #33:	accept your reading assignments philosophically --- Last Century Modern <cite>toreysback posted [p:959333453] in If this to... [t:79725623]...</cite> <quote>accept your reading assignments philosophically </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Alteres 10/24/21 9:23:51 AM #34:	How did it go? I expect details. --- ........the ghost in the machine... IGN: Fox, FC: 5344-2646-0982 <cite>Alteres posted [p:959338181] in If this to... [t:79725623]...</cite> <quote>How did it go? I expect details. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
MedeaLysistrata 10/24/21 11:06:01 AM #35:	Alteres posted... How did it go? I expect details. One page put me to sleep I will give it a try this morning --- "Why is ontology so expensive?" - JH [Is this live?][Joyless planet...] <cite>MedeaLysistrata posted [p:959339975] in If this to... [t:79725623]...</cite> <quote>Alteres posted... </cite> <quote>How did it go? I expect details.</quote>One page put me to sleep I will give it a try this morning </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
MedeaLysistrata 10/24/21 11:35:21 AM #36:	One of the things I remember not liking about this guy is he keeps deferring what he wants to say --- "Why is ontology so expensive?" - JH [Is this live?][Joyless planet...] <cite>MedeaLysistrata posted [p:959340521] in If this to... [t:79725623]...</cite> <quote>One of the things I remember not liking about this guy is he keeps deferring what he wants to say </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
MedeaLysistrata 10/24/21 1:13:53 PM #37:	My dad is awake and loves to make a lot of noise so I'm just gonna stop here. I didn't get very far, but I am very interested in his discussion of the structure of questions, which he talks about in the first part of the intro. --- "Why is ontology so expensive?" - JH [Is this live?][Joyless planet...] <cite>MedeaLysistrata posted [p:959342793] in If this to... [t:79725623]...</cite> <quote>My dad is awake and loves to make a lot of noise so I'm just gonna stop here. I didn't get very far, but I am very interested in his discussion of the structure of questions, which he talks about in the first part of the intro. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
MedeaLysistrata 10/24/21 1:51:14 PM #38:	So I've read some Sartre prior to this, and he distinguishes between the being of the phenomenon and the phenomenon of being Does such a simple distinction already surpass Heidegger? I'm still on intro pt 1 but it seems like he only acknowledges being as in the being of entities --- "Why is ontology so expensive?" - JH [Is this live?][Joyless planet...] <cite>MedeaLysistrata posted [p:959343820] in If this to... [t:79725623]...</cite> <quote>So I've read some Sartre prior to this, and he distinguishes between the being of the phenomenon and the phenomenon of being Does such a simple distinction already surpass Heidegger? I'm still on intro pt 1 but it seems like he only acknowledges being as in the being of entities </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
MedeaLysistrata 10/24/21 2:01:07 PM #39:	MedeaLysistrata posted... So I've read some Sartre prior to this, and he distinguishes between the being of the phenomenon and the phenomenon of being Does such a simple distinction already surpass Heidegger? I'm still on intro pt 1 but it seems like he only acknowledges being as in the being of entities I guess this is the ontic/ontological distinction --- "Why is ontology so expensive?" - JH [Is this live?][Joyless planet...] <cite>MedeaLysistrata posted [p:959344102] in If this to... [t:79725623]...</cite> <quote>MedeaLysistrata posted... </cite> <quote>So I've read some Sartre prior to this, and he distinguishes between the being of the phenomenon and the phenomenon of being Does such a simple distinction already surpass Heidegger? I'm still on intro pt 1 but it seems like he only acknowledges being as in the being of entities</quote>I guess this is the ontic/ontological distinction </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
MedeaLysistrata 10/24/21 2:20:52 PM #40:	This got confusing really fast, lol --- "Why is ontology so expensive?" - JH [Is this live?][Joyless planet...] <cite>MedeaLysistrata posted [p:959344677] in If this to... [t:79725623]...</cite> <quote>This got confusing really fast, lol </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
MedeaLysistrata 10/24/21 3:27:28 PM #41:	When you guys don't understand something you're reading, do you press on or double down? --- "Why is ontology so expensive?" - JH [Is this live?][Joyless planet...] <cite>MedeaLysistrata posted [p:959346559] in If this to... [t:79725623]...</cite> <quote>When you guys don't understand something you're reading, do you press on or double down? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Kiyune 10/24/21 3:34:59 PM #42:	MedeaLysistrata posted... When you guys don't understand something you're reading, do you press on or double down? I try to reread it several times and work through each word slowly, if I read too fast then words just kind of don't register as much for me. Looking up their meaning helps too --- The legend has been silenced for over seven hundred years... And now, the mystery unfolds. <cite>Kiyune posted [p:959346790] in If this to... [t:79725623]...</cite> <quote>MedeaLysistrata posted... </cite> <quote>When you guys don't understand something you're reading, do you press on or double down?</quote>I try to reread it several times and work through each word slowly, if I read too fast then words just kind of don't register as much for me. Looking up their meaning helps too </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
toreysback 10/24/21 3:36:33 PM #43:	MedeaLysistrata posted... My dad is awake and loves to make a lot of noise so I'm just gonna stop here. typical dad strategy with most written texts, i can skim ahead and usually get context clarification on what the author means by what i didn't understand. unfortunately, this doesn't work in a dense text in which the author continually introduces exotic terminology i never tried to seriously read like heidegger. i did the sartre/boethius/wittgenstein stuff but that's all relatively readable --- Last Century Modern <cite>toreysback posted [p:959346829] in If this to... [t:79725623]...</cite> <quote>MedeaLysistrata posted... </cite> <quote>My dad is awake and loves to make a lot of noise so I'm just gonna stop here.</quote> typical dad strategy with most written texts, i can skim ahead and usually get context clarification on what the author means by what i didn't understand. unfortunately, this doesn't work in a dense text in which the author continually introduces exotic terminology i never tried to seriously read like heidegger. i did the sartre/boethius/wittgenstein stuff but that's all relatively readable </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
KaizokuKing 10/24/21 3:41:58 PM #44:	. --- I'm gonna be King of the Pirates, Ichigo, dattebayo! <cite>KaizokuKing posted [p:959347007] in If this to... [t:79725623]...</cite> <quote>. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
MedeaLysistrata 10/24/21 3:44:47 PM #45:	Existence, existential, existentiell (wtf?) --- "Why is ontology so expensive?" - JH [Is this live?][Joyless planet...] <cite>MedeaLysistrata posted [p:959347081] in If this to... [t:79725623]...</cite> <quote>Existence, existential, existentiell (wtf?) </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
MedeaLysistrata 10/24/21 3:48:54 PM #46:	This is pretty based Establishing the ontological priority of something can render it a non-circular argument --- "Why is ontology so expensive?" - JH [Is this live?][Joyless planet...] <cite>MedeaLysistrata posted [p:959347200] in If this to... [t:79725623]...</cite> <quote>This is pretty based Establishing the ontological priority of something can render it a non-circular argument </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
toreysback 10/24/21 3:52:58 PM #47:	but in the words of wallace, it becomes kinda like having to knit your own knitting needles before you can start knitting --- Last Century Modern <cite>toreysback posted [p:959347332] in If this to... [t:79725623]...</cite> <quote>but in the words of wallace, it becomes kinda like having to knit your own knitting needles before you can start knitting </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
MedeaLysistrata 10/24/21 4:02:06 PM #48:	MedeaLysistrata posted... Wow I think knowing spoilers for this book might ruin it ~~boethiusis supposed to discern the identity of the woman himself?~~ >she was with him when the king came to visit and guided his speech >"why does my life suck?" --- "Why is ontology so expensive?" - JH [Is this live?][Joyless planet...] <cite>MedeaLysistrata posted [p:959347594] in If this to... [t:79725623]...</cite> <quote>MedeaLysistrata posted... </cite> <quote>Wow I think knowing spoilers for this book might ruin it boethiusis supposed to discern the identity of the woman himself?</quote>>she was with him when the king came to visit and guided his speech >"why does my life suck?" </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
furb 10/24/21 4:31:17 PM #49:	Existenz is also a word for Karl Jaspers --- You know how fads are. Today it's brains, tomorrow, pierced tongues. Then the next day, pierced brains. -Jane Lane <cite>furb posted [p:959348451] in If this to... [t:79725623]...</cite> <quote>Existenz is also a word for Karl Jaspers </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
MedeaLysistrata 10/24/21 4:44:15 PM #50:	furb posted... Existenz is also a word for Karl Jaspers In Hegel, the word is supposed to be the sublation(...maybe) of the union of being and nothingness, which has becoming as its synthesis. It doesn't approach any concept of world until essence is involved. Sublation* silly autocorrect --- "Why is ontology so expensive?" - JH [Is this live?][Joyless planet...] <cite>MedeaLysistrata posted [p:959348763] in If this to... [t:79725623]...</cite> <quote>furb posted... </cite> <quote>Existenz is also a word for Karl Jaspers</quote>In Hegel, the word is supposed to be the sublation(...maybe) of the union of being and nothingness, which has becoming as its synthesis. It doesn't approach any concept of world until essence is involved. Sublation* silly autocorrect </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
MedeaLysistrata 10/25/21 12:18:47 AM #51:	Remind me why I care about this lol --- "Why is ontology so expensive?" - JH [Is this live?][Joyless planet...] <cite>MedeaLysistrata posted [p:959361115] in If this to... [t:79725623]...</cite> <quote>Remind me why I care about this lol </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Xethuminra 10/25/21 12:21:06 AM #52:	MedeaLysistrata posted... Remind me why I care about this lol Im finding that rather difficult. <cite>Xethuminra posted [p:959361165] in If this to... [t:79725623]...</cite> <quote>MedeaLysistrata posted... </cite> <quote>Remind me why I care about this lol</quote>Im finding that rather difficult. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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