Current Events > On a creative level, Freddy's Revenge scares me. (Spoilers)

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From what I've seen and read, it seems like a lot of the ideas in the second movie came about because of pissing contests between creator/director Wes Craven and producer Robert Shaye.

They had a disagreement over whether or not Freddy should be revealed as the driver in the final scene of A Nightmare on Elm Street. Craven disliked the idea and opted for Freddy to possess the car instead of driving it. Shaye countered by having Freddy drive a bus in the sequel. Though done out of spite, the bus ride to Hell was one of the better scenes in the movie and the series as a whole.

On the flip side, the pool party scene where Freddy escapes from the dream world seems like something that was done out of spite and at a detriment to the series. Robbing Freddy of his unique MO of invading dreams by having him appear in the flesh is the definition of cutting off your nose to spite your face. More importantly, Wes Craven and another director declined to direct on account of a scene involving an exploding lovebird. The dude who eventually directed the film also didn't want to do the movie... because of the exploding lovebird.

I just can't imagine being a director or screenwriter and having to work around that. The producer is just hellbent on having a scene where a lovebird flies around the living room before exploding. That scares me. What happens when a producer is convinced that they have a good idea and it must be in the picture no matter what? It's an easily ignored scene -- just kind of a WTF moment that you move on from. But if you stop and think about it, it really becomes the "Batman has a bat credit card" moment of the entire franchise.

I could just see myself getting fired for asking, "This is the scene that made the previous director quit, right?"

I just watched that movie today and I agree. The only thing great about Freddy's revenge was that kick ass image of the bus hanging off that rock. Everything else was ehhh.

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The movie shines in a couple of moments.

It takes too long to get started and it has some ideas that are contrary to what the first film established. It just gets kinda boring waiting for something to finally happen. And when something does happen, it tends to be something that Freddy shouldn't do.

Crazy how part 3 is the best of the best of the series. I always save that one for Halloween

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jW8tkrFg14A

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I recently watched a documentary about the gay undertones of the second film which was kinda interesting

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Oh for christ sake you got a link to it? I know what they're referring to but making a documentary JUST about the gay undertones of Nightmare on Elm Street 2 is absurd to the say the least.

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The only thing stopping that movie from being awesome is the kids acting. I think the actor actually thought what he was doing was acceptable or accurate. Its an extremely distasteful portrayal of a young man struggling with homosexuality at a time where there was much intolerance.... and descending into terror over it. Could this be Freddy? Absolutely, but the film portrays it as though Freddys vision of the kid is morally culpable. To be in line, we would need to find out that the kids friends are actually homosexual & they support him & that makes Freddy disappear. However, the movie like many others of its day tries to pull a fast one (much like many movies nowadays) and never directly addresses its subtext. Sound like The Shining? Again, imagine if The Shining portrayed Jack as a sympathetic husband besieged by his needy family? That would be not okay.

Its almost like Taxi driver

Johnny_Nutcase posted...

Oh for christ sake you got a link to it? I know what they're referring to but making a documentary JUST about the gay undertones of Nightmare on Elm Street 2 is absurd to the say the least.

I watched it on Shudder a year or two ago. It was called Scream, Queen! My Nightmare on Elm Street

The actor from Nightmare 2 is pretty much the center of the doc

Scream Queen! (screamqueendocumentary.com)

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Mark Patton, who was closeted at the time, said that he felt the director knew he was gay and exploited his sexuality for the movie.

From Wikipedia,

"Nobody ever affected my confidencethe boys that threw rocks at me, nobodybut this man did."

FortuneCookie posted...

Mark Patton, who was closeted at the time, said that he felt the director knew he was gay and exploited his sexuality for the movie.

From Wikipedia,

"Nobody ever affected my confidencethe boys that threw rocks at me, nobodybut this man did."

Oh god