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Texas Governor Greg Abbott Issues Executive Order prohibiting Vaccine Mandates by "ANY entity in Texas".

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Dude should rot in prison, but we don't jail politicians when they murder people.

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https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/boards/400-current-events/79706408

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hockeybub89 posted...

Dude should rot in prison, but we don't jail politicians when they murder people.

We don't even fine them. At most a republican might get censured by other politicians.

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metallica846 posted...

Fuck that topic, this is the one now.

https://youtu.be/i0ZFkm5D9C8

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Texas Bump. Finally, they're choosing freedom over mandates

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More trolling that the mods won't do anything about
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Killing your voter base to own the libs

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Last Texas Bumperoo

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Now tell him about the other mandatory vaccines while he's at it.

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American Airlines (mainly DFW) and Southwest Airlines (mainly HOU and AUS) have already said they will continue their mandates. It'll be interesting to see how that plays out.

That EO should be shot down with ease as a violation of private business entity's First Amendment rights though (ironically enough).

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So he created a vaccine mandate saying you can't have vaccine mandates...

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The party of small government, folks. Last week didn't he say government shouldn't interfere with businesses? What a buffoon. Hope he gets voted out.

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good

no mandates anywhere is coming next


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How about businesses then increase prices to cover covid damages, but offer a discount to anyone who willingly shows proof of vaccination that just so happens to equal the original price

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Businesses have been allowed to require other vaccinations in the past. By forbidding them from requiring this specific vaccine, you are complicating the regulatory framework and making it more difficult for businesses to function.

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Or how about my religion prevents me from servicing unvaxxed people because my holy book says they'll be damned if they don't

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uwnim posted...

Businesses have been allowed to require other vaccinations in the past. By forbidding them from requiring this specific vaccine, you are complicating the regulatory framework and making it more difficult for businesses to function.

Yeah but he's owning the libs now

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hummus93 posted...

Finally, they're choosing freedom over mandates

Shut. The fuck. Up.

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So we can force women to have babies, but getting people vaccinated should "always" be voluntary.

Mmkay, gotcha

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Life Sympathy posted...

American Airlines (mainly DFW) and Southwest Airlines (mainly HOU and AUS) have already said they will continue their mandates. It'll be interesting to see how that plays out.

best way if they don't want to comply. don't run flights to/from texas
hurts the company but it gives em response to the governor.
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uwnim posted...

Businesses have been allowed to require other vaccinations in the past. By forbidding them from requiring this specific vaccine, you are complicating the regulatory framework and making it more difficult for businesses to function.

This

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corporations and bosses do not have the right to impose these things on employees except in very specific cases like hospitals or nursing homes due to those settings not being about the business per se, but about the ill people who are at higher risk.

giving bosses this power in general would be idiotic. the only sense in which there is now a complication foisted onto a business due to "regulatory framework complexity" is because that new regulatory framework is too stifling and should be thrown out as garbage. that's what it is: garbage.

it's a problem created by the Biden administration, and now I'm to believe that it's actually Texas opposing these idiotic rules that is somehow causing problems for businesses within the regulatory framework? and i should believe this from people on the left who...care so much about business and profit and bosses and whether or not Jeff Bezos or his special interests can tell his warehouse workers what they "need" to put into their bodies in order to be allowed to put bread on the table? and I should believe this all while businesses are voting with their wallet and going to Texas already because Texas won't put up with increasing bureacratic bullshit and regulatory overload?

lol get the hell out of here with this bullshit. how can some of you be this naive? this incapable of forward thinking? this illiterate on basic history and what happens when special interests amass real power against a cocophony of voices that for years now have been making those people a target? they will enslave you all and you're cheering it on.

these mandates are the equivalent of your boss doing whatever they want with your body as a condition of your employment. one does not need to consider much dystopian sci-fi or history or just the evil some people have, to understand how and why these are risks. they are not going to just strip you of your rights overnight because that would be too quick and it would fail.

and it's not like some of you are just thinking that it's all for the virus. some of you deep down actually know that it's about control and you feel glee at the idea and believe yourselves to be the ones who will be in control of that system. but you will not be. this is not some glorious start of a worker revolution or whatever the hell some of you pretend to be after. this is all a giant flex by some certain bosses to remind their workers who the boss is and who fires who and who tells who what to do with their body.

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Enjoy playing lawmaker while you can, Texas Republicans. Your state is sliding further and further blue in every single election.

W won it by 20%.

Trump won it by 5%.

Even having the most restrictive voting process in the country won't overcome sheer numbers. In another decade or two it'll be blue, and we can start cleaning up the mess you've made.

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mybbqrules posted...

Enjoy playing lawmaker while you can, Texas Republicans. Your state is sliding further and further blue in every single election.

W won it by 20%.

Trump won it by 5%.

Even having the most restrictive voting process in the country won't overcome sheer numbers. In another decade or two it'll be blue, and we can start cleaning up the mess you've made.

And for some reason COVID deaths have a distinct right wing slant. :v That 5% is getting smaller and smaller.

Does Texas still want to secede? I mean....

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EmetSelch posted...

And for some reason COVID deaths have a distinct right wing slant. :v That 5% is getting smaller and smaller.

And now we reach the crux of why so-called people like Abbott and DeathSantis are making these plays - make it as difficult as possible for educated, health-conscious people to protect themselves from Covid in an attempt to balance out the loss of uneducated freedumb-fighters. We already know that one of the motivators of Trump's lax response to the pandemic was that he believed it would hit blue-voting urban areas the hardest.

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masterpug53 posted...

And now we reach the crux of why so-called people like Abbott and DeathSantis are making these plays - make it as difficult as possible for educated, health-conscious people to protect themselves from Covid in an attempt to balance out the loss of uneducated freedumb-fighters. We already know that one of the motivators of Trump's lax response to the pandemic was that he believed it would hit blue-voting urban areas the hardest.

Except most blue areas are highly vaccinated, while red areas are not.

Hence Trump and a few others tentatively suggesting getting vaxxed to cacaphonous boos.

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kingdrake2 posted...

best way if they don't want to comply. don't run flights to/from texas
hurts the company but it gives em response to the governor.

DFW is a major international gateway into the United States that's mainly handled by AA and one of the largest hubs for them. "Hurts the company" is a massive understatement if they were to do this (read: cheaper to lawyer up).

Southwest maybe but given the landscape for airlines since very late 2020 and including the fiasco that was the 737 MAX, they're not going to give up any revenue.

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mybbqrules posted...

Except most blue areas are highly vaccinated, while red areas are not.

Hence Trump and a few others tentatively suggesting getting vaxxed to cacaphonous boos.

yea, I guess they miscalculated just how stupid their base is.

He admits it's safe, effective and the best way to combat the virus, but his actions say otherwise. lol. He just doesn't want anti vaxxers to quit in mass droves


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Texas: America's Toilet

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pure_temper posted...

corporations and bosses do not have the right to impose these things on employees except in very specific cases like hospitals or nursing homes due to those settings not being about the business per se, but about the ill people who are at higher risk.

giving bosses this power in general would be idiotic. the only sense in which there is now a complication foisted onto a business due to "regulatory framework complexity" is because that new regulatory framework is too stifling and should be thrown out as garbage. that's what it is: garbage.

it's a problem created by the Biden administration, and now I'm to believe that it's actually Texas opposing these idiotic rules that is somehow causing problems for businesses within the regulatory framework? and i should believe this from people on the left who...care so much about business and profit and bosses and whether or not Jeff Bezos or his special interests can tell his warehouse workers what they "need" to put into their bodies in order to be allowed to put bread on the table? and I should believe this all while businesses are voting with their wallet and going to Texas already because Texas won't put up with increasing bureacratic bullshit and regulatory overload?

lol get the hell out of here with this bullshit. how can some of you be this naive? this incapable of forward thinking? this illiterate on basic history and what happens when special interests amass real power against a cocophony of voices that for years now have been making those people a target? they will enslave you all and you're cheering it on.

these mandates are the equivalent of your boss doing whatever they want with your body as a condition of your employment. one does not need to consider much dystopian sci-fi or history or just the evil some people have, to understand how and why these are risks. they are not going to just strip you of your rights overnight because that would be too quick and it would fail.

and it's not like some of you are just thinking that it's all for the virus. some of you deep down actually know that it's about control and you feel glee at the idea and believe yourselves to be the ones who will be in control of that system. but you will not be. this is not some glorious start of a worker revolution or whatever the hell some of you pretend to be after. this is all a giant flex by some certain bosses to remind their workers who the boss is and who fires who and who tells who what to do with their body.

This is nothing new. There have been jobs that required specific vaccines before. Jobs had been free to require such things. The new thing is mandates against mandates and other mandates for mandates. Instead of like just leaving it up to the companies and people like we have been for decades.

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EmetSelch posted...

yea, I guess they miscalculated just how stupid their base is.

They just forgot that weaponized stupidity and ignorance cuts both ways.

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ironic that this will get overturned based on the republicans insistence that businesses get individual freedoms lol

uwnim posted...

Businesses have been allowed to require other vaccinations in the past. By forbidding them from requiring this specific vaccine, you are complicating the regulatory framework and making it more difficult for businesses to function.

Not really. They just don't have to mandate the vaccine. There's no complication.

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pure_temper posted...

they will enslave you all and you're cheering it on.

holy fuck the slippery slope fallacy is in full force.

"hey everyone, we are smack in the middle of a global pandemic that has killed over seven hundred thousand citizens of this country. please take this vaccine which has been repeatedly proven safe and effective so we can all move on with our lives"

slippery sloping into

"WE WILL ENSLAVE YOU ALL"

the leap is amazing

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giant aspirin you wouldn't know what a slippery slope is even if you were sliding down one

just consider the things happening over in Australia if you somehow think it's a sLiPpErY sLoPe (perhaps because you're afraid of the illusion of safety being shattered, or perhaps because you think you'll be one pulling the strings as a boss)

Let's see what's going on in Australia so we can properly evaluate if this is a slippery slope or not.

They want to force people who quarantine at home, rather than a government-mandated quarantine "hotel" that has guards, to install a new app that does facial recognition and GPS tracking in your own home. It will randomly ping you, and if you don't respond to the ping within 15 minutes it'll send the police to your house for an in-person check.

Source:

https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2021/09/pandemic-australia-still-liberal-democracy/619940/

They're arresting people for making Facebook posts against lockdowns. Source:

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-australia-54007824

Australia presumes to say how many people can visit your home. Source:

https://theconversation.com/vaccine-passports-are-coming-to-australia-how-will-they-work-and-what-will-you-need-them-for-167531

NSW Premier Gladys Berejiklian yesterday announced freedoms for fully vaccinated people once 70% of the states eligible population are double dosed. These include being able to go to hospitality venues, hairdressers and gyms, and have five people to your home.

They can arbitrarily lock you in your apartment building for up to weeks, no one allowed to leave. Source:

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-australia-53316097

They also have armed police officers enforcing rules, even on mostly empty beaches if someone is sunbathing. Deeming it not an essential outdoors activity. Just imagine a world where these officers become ideologically motivated or get brainwashed somehow for some evil end, which...isn't that what you gamefaqs leftists actually say about policing in general? time to wake up and smell some coffee.

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You are talking about the place that actively sabotaged their vaccine rollouts and trying to use that as an argument that what Texas is doing is good.

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proudclad, how come many vaccines have been mandated for decades yet we are not enslaved? were the evil overlords biding their time., waiting for this exact moment?

pure_temper posted...

(perhaps because you're afraid of the illusion of safety being shattered, or perhaps because you think you'll be one pulling the strings as a boss)

im more afraid of dying of covid tbqh.

and no, i'd never want to be the boss. fuck that level of responsibility.

also, none of those things you're fear mongering about are necessities of a simple vaccine mandate at large employers. it's entirely possible to implement a mandate without falling into all of those other things you're rambling about. that's why your argument is a logical fallacy and will not be addressed.

here's some reading for you to brush up on https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slippery_slope

is an argument in which a party asserts that a relatively small first step leads to a chain of related events culminating in some significant (usually negative) effect.

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pure_temper posted...

giant aspirin you wouldn't know what a slippery slope is even if you were sliding down one

just consider the things happening over in Australia if you somehow think it's a sLiPpErY sLoPe (perhaps because you're afraid of the illusion of safety being shattered, or perhaps because you think you'll be one pulling the strings as a boss)

Let's see what's going on in Australia so we can properly evaluate if this is a slippery slope or not.

They want to force people who quarantine at home, rather than a government-mandated quarantine "hotel" that has guards, to install a new app that does facial recognition and GPS tracking in your own home. It will randomly ping you, and if you don't respond to the ping within 15 minutes it'll send the police to your house for an in-person check.

Source:

https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2021/09/pandemic-australia-still-liberal-democracy/619940/

They're arresting people for making Facebook posts against lockdowns. Source:

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-australia-54007824

Australia presumes to say how many people can visit your home. Source:

https://theconversation.com/vaccine-passports-are-coming-to-australia-how-will-they-work-and-what-will-you-need-them-for-167531

NSW Premier Gladys Berejiklian yesterday announced freedoms for fully vaccinated people once 70% of the states eligible population are double dosed. These include being able to go to hospitality venues, hairdressers and gyms, and have five people to your home.

They can arbitrarily lock you in your apartment building for up to weeks, no one allowed to leave. Source:

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-australia-53316097

They also have armed police officers enforcing rules, even on mostly empty beaches if someone is sunbathing. Deeming it not an essential outdoors activity. Just imagine a world where these officers become ideologically motivated or get brainwashed somehow for some evil end, which...isn't that what you gamefaqs leftists actually say about policing in general? time to wake up and smell some coffee.

grade A conservative fearmongering right here lmao

pure_temper posted...

Let's see what's going on in Australia

pure_temper posted...

NSW Premier Gladys Berejiklian yesterday

lol

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@ uwnim you must live in another country if you think "this is nothing new" with regards to what is happening in the USA

and particularly must be keeping your head in the sand to not know about the lawsuits brewing against the Biden admin or the general migration that will take place out of, say, California and into Texas and etc as the most productive people flee the bureacratic hellholes where nothing can get done without the Nanny in Chief saying so.

nothing like this has been done before, as far as these mandates go and the mandates being made a condition of employment in general. except in very specific settings that have already been mentioned (hospitals, nursing homes). and those links about Australia are clearly showing you that the enslavers were in fact biding their time until enough people are complacent and ignorant enough to spend 4 years talking about Nazis only to then completely collapse their own narrative when fed some clickbait tribal garbage about vaxxed vs unvaxxed.

@ soulunison2

Quality links, with snippets restating or copying what is in the links. Yet deemed "conservative fearmongering" by someone on gamefaqs. You really can't make this shit up.

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pure_temper posted...

Quality links, with snippets restating or copying what is in the links. Yet deemed "conservative fearmongering" by someone on gamefaqs. You really can't make this shit up.

it's "conservative fear mongering" because you're boldly asserting that those things will necessarily follow this other thing, yet you have not proven why that is true. you started with a small thing and made some magical leap in logic and assumed without evidence that your conclusions will follow.

so instead of pointing at the one country that took a mandate to the most extreme measures possible, why don't you look at the countless countries that have NOT gone that far? is it possibly because that doesn't suit your agenda?

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Like seriously, Abbott is doing this solely for winning political points. Initially he only forbid government stuff from mandating covid vaccination and thought it was fine if a company/corporation did it. But other members of the party were saying it didnt do enough so to avoid losing standing in the Texas Republican Party he issued this. Which specifically forbids covid vaccine requirements, but leaves open every other vaccine mandate a company might want to implement. Why is that? Because there is no actual belief that companies shouldnt be able to do this.

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Giant_Aspirin posted...

it's "conservative fear mongering" because you're boldly asserting that those things will necessarily follow this other thing, yet you have not proven why that is true. you started with a small thing and made some magical leap in logic and assumed without evidence that your conclusions will follow.

it is honestly unbelievable how naive you are

you don't even know what a slippery slope is. there ARE actual slippery slopes out there. you don't wait until those armed police officers are stuffing people into those quarantine camps for sunbathing on a mostly-deserted beach, you say something when the armed police officers are telling people they are breaking the law and need to go home for being on the fucking beach

and the same applies doubly to everything else in those links, or the general authoritarian aura that is emanating from the so-called leftists who hate corporations and proft and bosses. you don't wait until the system is built and you're a slave to say something, you call this shit out when you see it rearing its ugly head.

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