Board 8 > Sonic Colors Ultimate has made me bridge the gap between Colors and Generations.

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TheRock1525
09/30/21 12:33:55 AM
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I always felt Colors was a good game compared to Generations being an amazing, and I always kind of blamed it on there being 18 acts in Generations vs. Colors being spread more out. But I think after playing Forces where they absolutely spread things far too thin, I think Colors being designed with a mixture of a few longer stages and more bite sized ones that have fun gimmicks/themes actually works out really well for it.

I also have a great appreciation in using the wisps, which especially helps when you drop the mindset of "gotta finish the level as fast as possible" and do a little bit of exploring which most 3D Sonics struggle with. I also think that having the boost be a wisp powerup instead of something that can be gained through rings means you have to be more selective and thoughtful with it.

Overall, I think Generations is a better designed game with a ton of thought put into it's levels, whereas Colors can be a little more hit or miss, but I think it's clicking with 34 year old me more than 23 year old me because of how I approach games now. The more bite-sized approach works better for it than it used to.

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TheRock1525
09/30/21 6:06:00 PM
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Some of these remixes, though.

sheesh

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UshiromiyaEva
09/30/21 6:10:23 PM
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More on the Unleashed side of things here!

I though the day stages if that game were significantly better than Colors or Generations.

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TheRock1525
09/30/21 6:13:36 PM
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Unleashed was too fucking fast and the camera was positioned poorly.

Unless you're talking the Wii version. That one was okay.

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UshiromiyaEva
09/30/21 6:25:25 PM
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Naw, PS3. Though I do own the game for every console.

The insane speed was what I loved! Music was so good, too.

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Waluigi1
10/01/21 10:04:59 PM
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I want to play it.

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Strife2
10/01/21 10:36:33 PM
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Started it myself this afternoon. Only played a few levels, but this certainly has that Generations feel. A little stiff in spots, but I appreciate the sort of "on rails" presentation over Sonic given free reign at breakneck speed to fall everywhere.

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Strife2
10/02/21 8:19:20 PM
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I've played a bit into Tropical Resort and Sweet Mountain. I think the best word I'd use to describe this would be "pleasant." Not necessarily the most fun or exciting gameplay. I can see avid platforming fans potentially turned off by how "on rails" a lot of the game is. It sure does have a lot of unique paths and collectibles. But as someone who dropped off Sonic after 3&K (only playing Generations and Mania), this is the sort of easy going platformer I need. It's designed simply enough, but it doesn't seem either too janky nor too "perfectly precise."

I really appreciate the weird banter that comes from the intercom announcer (who may or may not be Eggman himself now that I think about it). The comedy falls flat in the cutscenes because it's too kiddy, but the intercom interludes are subtle and hilarious.

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TheRock1525
10/02/21 8:45:34 PM
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It is Eggman and it's pretty great.

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Strife2
10/03/21 11:06:27 AM
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I'm not gonna be shocked if I begin to hurl while playing Starlight Carnival stages..

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Strife2
10/03/21 8:31:35 PM
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Starlight Carnival Act 3 can fuck off and rot. Death pits are fine, but endless death pits and a moving bouncy pad? Um...thanks game. Still got through it though. Other levels weren't scum of the earth like that shit was.

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TheRock1525
10/03/21 8:32:45 PM
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Strife2 posted...
Starlight Carnival Act 3 can fuck off and rot. Death pits are fine, but endless death pits and a moving bouncy pad? Um...thanks game. Still got through it though. Other levels weren't scum of the earth like that shit was.

Really? I remember it being pretty easy.

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Strife2
10/03/21 8:33:58 PM
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It probably has more to do with the game being zoomed out to fuck (thanks widescreen fucking up platformers forever) and being a blind person. I can barely make Sonic out in the background while trying to hold myself steady with the moving pad.

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trizob
10/03/21 10:21:19 PM
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I think Colors is a pretty solid game, but honestly it's my least favorite of the boost games.

I really liked Unleashed. It was the first to do the boost gameplay, and while there were some minor bugs to iron out, I thought it did a pretty good job. The Werehog was not the best, but it wasn't too terrible either. I liked to overworld a lot, and the story was appropriate for a Sonic game: not overly serious but not cringy either.

By Generations they basically perfected the boost gameplay as much as possible. It was cool to see the remakes of all the levels, although in retrospect I would probably have preferred a game with new levels made in the same style. Story was basically nonexistant, and not much of an overworld to speak of either.

I replayed Colors recently when Ultimate came out (although I did not play Ultimate), and honestly I enjoyed it a bit more than when it first came out. The levels are solid, but I think Sonic feels way too slippery, at least in the 3D sections. The story is cringe, but it's easy enough to ignore. I will agree with you as well that the smaller acts are something I appreciate now in my old age more than when it was new. I think the game may have been limited a bit by the Wii, I think if they had made it for 360/PS3 they may have been able to do a bit more with what I think are its physics issues.

As someone who was a really big Sonic fan in the early 2000s, I almost miss the amount of Sonic games that came out back then. A lot of them were pretty bad, but a few were surprisingly fun. And it wasn't boring, at least. Then again, I still haven't even gotten around to playing Forces, so I probably wouldn't have played them if they were making them.

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Waluigi1
10/03/21 10:28:33 PM
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trizob posted...
The Werehog was not the best, but it wasn't too terrible either.
Man, hard disagree. Werehog was legitimately miserable to play as and I still kind of regret forcing myself through it just to play the Sonic levels.

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TheRock1525
10/04/21 1:44:15 AM
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I use to think that if you just swapped the Werehog with Knuckles, the stages would be fine.

The last time I tried to fire up SU, I realized the issue was much much deeper than cosmetic and a few extra abilities (like climbing and gliding).

Sonic did not need to be a really bad DMC clone. In fact, though the game is thoroughly mediocre, I'd say that Sonic Forces actually did alternative gameplay the best with the CAC.

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TheRock1525
10/04/21 2:49:20 AM
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I'm finally encountering glitches.

Music isn't playing during wisp powers OR at the results screen.

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most_games_r_ok
10/04/21 12:53:21 PM
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Colours is alright. Definitely ennoyed Unleashed more and for sure Generations. In fact, I even think I enjoyed Forces more than Colours.

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TheRock1525
10/05/21 4:08:08 AM
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And thus begins the quest for 1000 gamerscore.

I have 985 for Generations because one of the achievements glitched.

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ninkendo
10/05/21 4:14:35 AM
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Strife2
10/05/21 6:08:08 AM
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Planet Wisp was "ok" I suppose. Kinda Emerald Hill meets Launch Base kinda vibe. Aquariam Park was nice though. Any Japanese aesthetic always gets high marks from me (Press Garden Act 2 for instance).

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Strife2
10/05/21 10:04:40 AM
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"Here at Asteroid Coaster, no one can hear you scream...except the person sitting next to you."

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TheRock1525
10/06/21 4:49:53 AM
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Eggman's PA announcements are the best.

"Please do not be concerned if you encounter any screaming aliens. The screams are how they communicate. Really! I promise."

"Would Sonic the Hedgehog please report to the security office? Sonic the Hedgehog, please report to the security office. We found your... Eh... Your keys! Yes, thats it, we found your keys. No need to be ready for a trap, since we only want to return your keys."

"Please note: Any mutant powers gained from riding the attractions here at the park are the express property of Eggman Industry, and must be used in the service of Eggman and his schemes."

"Please refrain from peeling off the special space-age polymer holding the starship together. If they look and feel like duct tape, but its not. Its called... Ehm... Space tape. Very advanced stuff. Thank you."

"Next stop: the Sweet Mountain. Enjoying our candy paradise is the perfect way to celebrate your next birthday. Or to avoid reaching it."

"Please beware of the spikes on the asteroid coaster, they are sharp. Really? We have to warn people about spikes? Like they won't notice the spikes, I mean, come on! The cars are nothing but spikes! Unbelievable! What... Wa... My... My what is still on?"

"Please note that this ride is not safe for children under twelve, or over thirteen. It is also not safe for thirteen year olds."

"Attention ladies and gentlemen! Please make your way over to the main viewing area, where the Light Speed Electrical Parade is about to begi... Ohoh, and, and that concludes the Light Speed Electrical Parade."

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Strife2
10/06/21 6:41:55 AM
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See, that stuff is endless fun. I shudder to think how the same team who wrote the in story dialogue wrote that.

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TheRock1525
10/07/21 6:24:49 AM
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And so it continues.

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TheRock1525
10/07/21 6:25:24 AM
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Diabeetus

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ninkendo
10/07/21 6:30:02 AM
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My only real knock against colors is super sonic is basically useless in terms of getting S Ranks

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TheRock1525
10/07/21 6:33:19 AM
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Also "Reach for the Stars" > "Endless Possibilities".

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ninkendo
10/07/21 6:35:30 AM
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I'll take FIST BUMP over both Hoobastank in my Sonic

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Waluigi1
10/07/21 7:33:17 AM
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ninkendo posted...
I'll take FIST BUMP over both Hoobastank in my Sonic
Eww... Fist Bump hurts me.

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foolm0r0n
10/07/21 8:14:07 AM
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Seven Rings is the best

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most_games_r_ok
10/07/21 8:47:15 AM
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TheRock1525 posted...
Also "Reach for the Stars" > "Endless Possibilities".
Hell naw.

And Fist Bump sucks.

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ninkendo
10/07/21 9:08:34 AM
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foolm0r0n posted...
Seven Rings is the best

If only there was more Crush40

Luckily Black Knight is filled with it!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pNB4Cy4mftI

https://youtu.be/-HrOjyltyEM

https://youtu.be/EYUmRWmNtmc

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TheRock1525
10/10/21 2:36:59 AM
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Slow and steady progress.

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TheRock1525
10/10/21 11:26:16 PM
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Also as I'm getting close to finishing, I decided to finally beat the game.

Somehow their already long-ass credits from the 0riginal game got longer, and after the four songs finish playing, they go on for another 10 minutes with no music.

I love the game but Jesus Christ this re-master is bad.

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TheRock1525
10/11/21 4:34:23 AM
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Actually down to 3 achievements. Two are reasonable (100% Asteroid Coaster and get through a level without collecting a ring) but I just saw that the last one is completing the Egg Shuttle.

Which is literally every stage back-to-back with limited lives.

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ninkendo
10/11/21 4:38:44 AM
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yeah but it's still super easy. Take's like 90 minutes to rush through. Pretty sure I finished with over 100 lives in stock

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TheRock1525
10/11/21 4:44:25 AM
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Also am I mistaken, or since Super Sonic can't use wisp powers, there's certain acts just flat out cannot finish?

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ninkendo
10/11/21 5:10:51 AM
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TheRock1525
10/12/21 3:13:50 AM
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Two things: Asteroid Coaster's S-Ranks can fuck right off, and Super Sonic is extremely useful for Rival Rush.

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TheRock1525
10/12/21 3:14:40 AM
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Only remaining Achievement is on the Egg Shuttle.

Edit: might actually livestream my attempt later in this week.

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TheRock1525
10/19/21 3:19:31 AM
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I haven't had time to make an attempt, I'd still like to livestream it.

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TheRock1525
10/26/21 8:05:36 AM
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Bump for now.

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TheRock1525
11/01/21 4:13:56 AM
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I keep putting this off.

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ninkendo
11/01/21 4:19:38 AM
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Seriously is only 90 minutes you can do it

I'm do it for you

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TheRock1525
11/07/21 2:43:12 AM
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Doing it Sunday night on my Twitch because I found my high speed USB cable I needed.

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DeepsPraw
11/07/21 2:45:53 AM
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a month later and I still have no idea what the topic title means

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TheRock1525
11/07/21 3:21:01 AM
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DeepsPraw posted...
a month later and I still have no idea what the topic title means

bridge a/the gap
to connect two things or to make the difference between them smaller:
  • The president singled out education as a vital tool in bridging the gap between rich and poor.



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11/07/21 3:30:37 AM
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TheRock1525
11/08/21 12:12:37 AM
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https://www.twitch.tv/trout_jefferson

Here we go.

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