Current Events > All things considered the PS3/360 era of games SUCKED

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I've been playing games since Sega Master System.

I think the golden age was SNES into PS1 era. PS2 era was ok. PS3 era SUCKED. PS4 era was good.

Basically Japanese Developers from 2006 to 2011 did jack shit.

SOOO many bald space marine shooter games. SOO many grays and browns and crushed blacks and sun glare.

The best RPG of that generation MIGHT actually be Lost Odyssey. Which says a fucking lot.

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Bahahahahaha no

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PS3 had Red Dead Redemption.

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Ps3 had Nier, Demon Souls, MGS4 .... but generally yeah it was weaker than ps2 and ps4.

Also, DS had bangers during this era so..

From Software's demons souls / soulsborne

Bungie halo

No those were some of the best gaming experiences to be had

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bladegash posted...

No those were some of the best gaming experiences to be had

While those are good, tbh to call them the best kinda sad. Play more games.

Max Payne 3 says NOOOooo


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Bioshock, Portal, Dead Space, Mass Effect just to name a few

Lots of motion blur and 30 fps at 720p too

I look at my old ps3 collection and it is pretty boring compared to my ps2, ps1 and ds, 3ds collections.

I feel it's kinda true because it was the first gen to have HD.

But it was the console versions of games that sucked. GPUs and gaming PCs in general were relatively cheap at the time. That was the generation I got into Steam and I was having a much better experience when it came to visuals and performance.

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You touched on some solid points. 7th g en tech was full of growing pains, everything looked better and it made everyone want to do a serious war shooter that's all grim and brown and awful. It had early motion controls with both SixAxis and the Wii, and then the PlayStation Move and the Kinect. Framerates seemed to go down the fucking toilet, at least on PS3 - the opening of Killzone 2 is this awful choppy mess, and the Mass Effect ports are always sub-30. This was the generation where the games could be as choppy as possible as long as it hit a high level of graphical fidelity.

After a handful of watershed moments in the past two gens regarding online fps multiplayer, this generation birthed a ton of shitty or otherwise unnecessary multiplayer modes, which fed into Sony and Microsoft's paid online subscriptions - which is an almighty fucking blight on games to this day. About a hundred bucks a year to play games online, but only on consoles - what a fucking rip-off. Might have started on the original Xbox, but this gen is when online became everything and that monetization was here to stay. As for the online multiplayer itself - did anyone need a Max Payne 3 multiplayer mode, or a Last of Us multiplayer mode? Mass Effect 3 multiplayer kicked metric fucktons of ass though, so I'll give that a pass.

And it's well-known at this point that this was a particularly rough generation for Japanese devs. JRPGs stagnated - Final Fantasy XIII took forever, and when it came out it felt like a total chore to play despite looking gorgeous. Dragon Quest had a good game and a bunch of good spinoffs, no surprises there - but they were all handheld games until Dragon Quest X came out on the Wii and then other platforms later on. Any decent RPG of the time, outside of a handful of notable exceptions like Blue Dragon, Nier and the other Xbox 360 exclusive by the original director of Final Fantasy, were mostly confined to handheld titles.

I got into 7th gen games super late, and I enjoyed having my pick of the bunch for obscenely low sale prices. But I think looking back on it, the PS3 and Xbox 360 represented a transition into the current online-focused model, the fruits and consequences of which we're reaping today, and it was an extremely rough, gimmicky time for games baked directly into the consoles of the time. From the DS introducing touchscreens to the consumer market, to the shitty PS3 SixAxis, to the Wii printing money for Nintendo and the Kinect promising the world and delivering the worst sales pitch for Microsoft's 8th gen console - the 7th generation was rough going.

There's something to be said for the ambitions of the era, but the good stuff that has carried over to this day was in its infancy back then and hard to deal with, and a lot of the bad that came from that period has carried onwards as well. Gaming is a multi-billion dollar industry now, I think games produce more revenue than movies do at this point - and that truly started with the 7th generation of gaming, not only by cementing itself as an all-ages medium where dads can play shooters while their kids play platformers, but through the bevy of monetization streams that generation enabled that has continued to weed its way into contemporary game design as time goes on.

Japanese devs had a tough time, there was a period where even the goofy, bright studios like Naughty Dog, Sucker Punch and Insomniac were producing grim, depressing shooters and acting games as opposed to the bright, snarky franchises that captures a generation of gamers, and it was the entry point for a lot of gimmicks and a lot of ways to manipulate people into spending more money. 7th gen consoles had some all time GOAT games, but looking back at it in the rearview mirror, there were a lot of caveats to get them.

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WingsOfGood posted...

While those are good, tbh to call them the best kinda sad. Play more games.

Or shut the fuck up and realize thats his opinion and you can skulk in the corner with yours.

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fuck no those systems had some of the best games ever

it had some games that I really enjoyed, but this is how I feel:

WingsOfGood posted...

but generally yeah it was weaker than ps2 and ps4.

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PS3/360 was miles better than PS4/One.

Weaker than PS2/Xbox though? Maybe. But I don't think so.

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360 and PS3 were the best gen

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WingsOfGood posted...

While those are good, tbh to call them the best kinda sad. Play more games.

.....no....

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Mass Effect trilogy says you're full of shit. Add in Fallout New Vegas & Dragon Age: Origins, it was the glory days of WRPGs.

^ maybe for action-WRPGs, because: Disco Elysium, Divinity Original Sin (2), Pathfinder Kingmaker Pillars of Eternity (2), etc. are some really great games in the genre from this past gen.

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I'm not sure I'd say it sucks, but my interest in videogames was definitely at an all time low during the 7th gen.

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So many good games, I don't even know where to begin.

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I don't care what anyone says, but the Wii still was Nintendo's best console to me.

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WingsOfGood posted...

While those are good, tbh to call them the best kinda sad. Play more games.

Halo 3 was among the best multiplayer FPS experiences ever, can't see why that alone would be discredited as an opinion.

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360 was amazing... Still play it today.

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I agree that Japanese games overall trended downwards (with Nintendo being an exception) but Western games really flourished that generation.

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MabusIncarnate posted...

Halo 3 was among the best multiplayer FPS experiences ever, can't see why that alone would be discredited as an opinion.

I didn't get to play the campaign until I got the MCC, but Halo 3 was one of the best fps campaigns if you ask me. Other than Cortana, that game was full of awesome missions. The two that come right before Cortana were superb.

Also Valkyria Chronicles was amazing, and I already mentioned that the Wii and DS had a lot of great Nintendo offerings. I truly do think that generation was the most fun I had playing games.

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dark souls, dragon age, xenoblade, mass effect, oblivion AND skyrim, fallout 3/nv, tales of vesperia/graces/xillia(+2), disgaea3/4, dragon's crown, dragon's dogma, etc. etc. etc.

tf drugs you on TC? 7th gen was great for RPGs

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WingsOfGood posted...

I look at my old ps3 collection and it is pretty boring compared to my ps2, ps1 and ds, 3ds collections.

That is a you problem not a PS3 library problem.
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Yeah you're insane. Borderlands. Mass effect. Gta 4 and 5. RDR. Forza motorsport. Gears of War. SKYRIM

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Modern warfare, battlefield 3 and 4.

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orangefire25 posted...

Modern warfare, battlefield 3 and 4.

Bad Company games were great too

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Poor performance, brown filter graphics, mayo screen and jagged edge aliasing makes me agree. The PS4 generation is basically the same as the PS3 but with remastering most the good games from that generation

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I wouldn't say it sucked, but it was lacking in comparison to the PS2 ERA, but still way better than the PS4 era. Did anything notable even come out of the PS4 era?

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it all went downhill when they realized goombas would pay for horse armor

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Slaya4 posted...

I wouldn't say it sucked, but it was lacking in comparison compared to the PS2 ERA, but still way better than the PS4 era. Did anything notable even come out of the PS4 era?

yeah lots of goty

garan posted...

Mass Effect trilogy says you're full of shit. Add in Fallout New Vegas & Dragon Age: Origins, it was the glory days of WRPGs.

WRPGS are terrible. Boring gameplay, wandeirng empty maps, empty plots, self-designed self-innsert characters with no dialogue, boring simple character progeression, piss poor combat etc.

WRPGS are just casual gamer rpgs

I ought to mention Destiny and Skyrim as well. Juggernaut experiences in their own right.

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