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Lorkhan
09/27/21 3:09:27 AM
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This is a long read, but its really worth reading all the way through. Some real bleak shit to start off your week. I know its late but Ill bump this in the morning; didnt want to forget to post it:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2021/09/23/robert-kagan-constitutional-crisis/

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teep_
09/27/21 3:46:37 AM
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Tag for later
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Garioshi
09/27/21 3:56:09 AM
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It's been here for decades

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YumandaOrg
09/27/21 3:58:29 AM
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Dude, we voted for Donald Trump in 2016. Everybody knew that once he was in the White House he was never going to say "Oh, okay, I lost, I'll see myself out".

We voted for all this crap, and we got what we voted for. Welcome to America. The GOP is not even a political party anymore, it is a federation of rich white people who have purchased Senators and Housefolk and told them "Go out there and say you are a Republican and just vote No on everything".

We got what we voted for, so whatever. I'm so tired of all these Opinion articles about the "crisis" and all this crap.

We knew what we were getting into voting for a guy who has never heard "No" in his entire life.

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YumandaOrg
09/27/21 3:59:53 AM
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Garioshi posted...
It's been here for decades
Also this. Brown v. Board of Education and the forced desegregation of society was never going to be accepted by the South and/or some people. Ever.

Ever. Ever, ever, ever. Like...give me a break.

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Lorkhan
09/27/21 9:28:53 AM
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Whose alt is this one now

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FortuneCookie
09/27/21 9:41:52 AM
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Why would you link to a news source behind a paywall?
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DogOfPeace
09/27/21 9:45:22 AM
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YumandaOrg posted...
Dude, we voted for Donald Trump in 2016. Everybody knew that once he was in the White House he was never going to say "Oh, okay, I lost, I'll see myself out".

We voted for all this crap, and we got what we voted for. Welcome to America. The GOP is not even a political party anymore, it is a federation of rich white people who have purchased Senators and Housefolk and told them "Go out there and say you are a Republican and just vote No on everything".

We got what we voted for, so whatever. I'm so tired of all these Opinion articles about the "crisis" and all this crap.

We knew what we were getting into voting for a guy who has never heard "No" in his entire life.

we had a choice. Once he was out, every single shady character associated with the failed insurrection should have been investigated and dealt with according to the law, at least the obvious cases such as the idiots seen on tape saying trial by combat and fight like youve never fought before and this is what happens when you steal an election.

that would have prevented people from trying it again.

instead these losers are free and plotting a second try, its really stupid.

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Lorkhan
09/27/21 9:47:07 AM
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FortuneCookie posted...
Why would you link to a news source behind a paywall?
Use reader mode. It wasnt paywalled for me anyways. Run along

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sabrestorm
09/27/21 9:54:15 AM
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Tldr, can we get a short summary?

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Lorkhan
09/27/21 9:55:31 AM
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sabrestorm posted...
Tldr, can we get a short summary?
No. Youre a supporter of the insurrection anyways.

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FortuneCookie
09/27/21 9:56:59 AM
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I'm gonna guess it has something to do with Trump trying to become president again. It won't happen. He can't buy his way in. He's too dangerous.
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Gwynevere
09/27/21 10:03:27 AM
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Garioshi posted...
It's been here for decades
This, no sense in acting like this is some new thing

The modern stage has been set since at least Raegan, arguably as far back as Nixon

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FortuneCookie
09/27/21 10:04:53 AM
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Gwynevere posted...
This, no sense in acting like this is some new thing

The modern stage has been set since at least Raegan, arguably as far back as Nixon

In that case, the stage was set long ago.

They were responses to the Civil Rights Movement.

It all comes back to the same issue it's always been: the functional purpose of racism to control society by setting people against one another.
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DogOfPeace
09/27/21 10:10:27 AM
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FortuneCookie posted...


It all comes back to the same issue it's always been: the functional purpose of racism to control society by setting people against one another.

for sure. The time spent thinking about racist shit is time not spent thinking about how automation, the tax system, the healthcare system, etc favor the billionaires


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Lorkhan
09/27/21 10:18:29 AM
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You could all like, actually read the article before attempting to discuss what you assume it discusses

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Antifar
09/27/21 10:21:01 AM
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YumandaOrg posted...
We voted for all this crap, and we got what we voted for.
Real curious use of "we" here. Most of us did not vote for Donald Trump.

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Questionmarktarius
09/27/21 10:44:30 AM
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Under Article 2, as written, the president was supposed to be elected via state legislatures instead of a popular vote, and wasn't very important anyway.
In the meantime, we've grossly bloated the executive branch into a non-legislative lawmaking body, and expanded the role of the president into a nigh-dictator only limited by any benevolence of whoever is the president at any given moment.
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PMarth2002
09/27/21 10:52:18 AM
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Lorkhan posted...
You could all like, actually read the article before attempting to discuss what you assume it discusses

i would, but its behind a paywall. you have another link?

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Questionmarktarius
09/27/21 10:53:39 AM
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PMarth2002 posted...
but its behind a paywall
it is?
https://gitlab.com/magnolia1234
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PMarth2002
09/27/21 10:58:57 AM
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Questionmarktarius posted...
it is?
https://gitlab.com/magnolia1234

thanks. wasn't aware of that extension.

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Guns_of_Verdun
09/27/21 11:03:46 AM
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YumandaOrg posted...
Dude, we voted for Donald Trump in 2016. Everybody knew that once he was in the White House he was never going to say "Oh, okay, I lost, I'll see myself out".

We voted for all this crap, and we got what we voted for. Welcome to America. The GOP is not even a political party anymore, it is a federation of rich white people who have purchased Senators and Housefolk and told them "Go out there and say you are a Republican and just vote No on everything".

We got what we voted for, so whatever. I'm so tired of all these Opinion articles about the "crisis" and all this crap.

We knew what we were getting into voting for a guy who has never heard "No" in his entire life.
7 million more people voted for Biden than Trump

GOP has turned voter suppression and Gerrymandering into party platforms.

"You get what your vote for!" is a lazy retort to these problems.

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Lorkhan
09/27/21 11:12:56 AM
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PMarth2002 posted...
i would, but its behind a paywall. you have another link?
You can also use your browser's reader mode

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PMarth2002
09/27/21 11:33:22 AM
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Lorkhan posted...
You can also use your browser's reader mode

This is literally the first time i've ever heard of chrome having a reader mode.

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DarthAragorn
09/27/21 11:36:18 AM
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Tag to read later/on desktop

Won't load on my phone plus don't have time before class

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KiwiTerraRizing
09/27/21 11:37:16 AM
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Behind a paywall

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monkmith
09/27/21 11:39:04 AM
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shits been off the rails since we saw a president come into office against the will of the people two decades ago. everything since is just snowballed bullshit.

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YumandaOrg
09/27/21 11:43:59 AM
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Antifar posted...
Real curious use of "we" here. Most of us did not vote for Donald Trump.
America.

We.

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Lorkhan
09/28/21 12:53:42 PM
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Bump

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DarthAragorn
09/29/21 12:38:54 PM
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bleak af

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Ving_Rhames
09/29/21 12:40:55 PM
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This is why you try to cash up, cut your losses and get tf out of that shithole country lol

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