Current Events > Damn how are all of the worst parts of Persona 5 contained to a single arc?

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The Okumura Arc has the:

- Worst palace
- Worst palace music
- Worst boss
- Worst story arc
- Centers around the most forgettable Phantom Thief

It's kinda wild how far behind the rest of the game it is in every category.

I still enjoyed it though.

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That the space one where people get lost in the airlocks because they refuse to use the map?

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RchHomieQuanChi posted...

- Centers around the most forgettable Phantom Thief

Oh.

This where you done fucked up.

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Hard disagree.

Okumura arc is rough, yes. But the Kaneshiro arc has one of the worst characters involved who actively ruins the entire plot. Plus, if I'm honest, it doesn't live up to the Kamoshida, Madarame, or Futaba palaces in the slightest.
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Honestly yeah. I feel like Haru could have been cut for time, she didn't really add much and she suffers by being introduced as late in the story as she is.

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CyricZ posted...

Oh.

This where you done fucked up.

I like Haru too, but she doesn't get nearly as much focus as the other thieves :/

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Slayer_22 posted...

Hard disagree.

Okumura arc is rough, yes. But the Kaneshiro arc has one of the worst characters involved who actively ruins the entire plot. Plus, if I'm honest, it doesn't live up to the Kamoshida, Madarame, or Futaba palaces in the slightest.

Idk, the Kaneshiro palace had a fun bank heist vibe though

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RchHomieQuanChi posted...

Idk, the Kaneshiro palace had a fun bank heist vibe though

I suppose. But it was bland design wise, and pretty boring visually inside the bank itself.

Makoto is easily the worst part of this and Futaba's arcs.
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I'm not overly keen on that Palace/boss fight either, but you don't need to do Haru dirty like that.

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Madarame has the worst music for me, but I don't hate any of the Palace themes really. Morgana is the worst character by a mile because of how he acts during this part of the game. As for the gameplay I actually like the palace, but the boss was too gimmicky for me.

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Slayer_22 posted...

Makoto is easily the worst part of this and Futaba's arcs.

nah

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MrMallard posted...

nah

Sounds like bad taste.
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That was the only boss fight that I didnt like

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Slayer_22 posted...

Sounds like bad taste.

Took the words right out of my mouth

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Makoto is the most boring party member and Kaneshiro is the worst villain.

But Okumura's storyline overall is more poorly written.

That being said, TC is wrong because the absolute worst part of the game is the conversation between Akechi and Shido in November, which is not in that arc.

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MrMallard posted...

nah

Just ignore him. He enters every P5 topic to whine about Makoto. Even Makoto fans arent as obsessed with her as he is.

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I fought Okumura boss on Royale on hard and quit out midway because I saw there was no way I was going to kill those fucking puppets in time. Apparently hard mode Royale makes that boss fight almost impossible. I had to literally change it to madness to beat it. Only game I have ever played where the harder mode makes it easier

Scarecrow17 posted...

Just ignore him. He enters every P5 topic to whine about Makoto. Even Makoto fans arent as obsessed with her as he is.

If the topic explicitly about Makoto or the worst palace in the game, of course imma mention Makoto. Just because you've seen me shit talk your waifu in 2 topics doesn't mean I do it in every P5 topic lol.

Bryfang posted...

I hate how she wasnt solving some obvious problems though, like youre a billionaire and Yusuke

The part that bugs me the most is that Yusuke doesn't have cell access in Strikers.

A cell phone.

Haru couldn't help pay her friend's bill so they all could keep in touch despite her being a millionaire. The fuck?
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You assume she has access to that money before she hits 18 because?

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spikethedevil posted...

You assume she has access to that money before she hits 18 because?

She's 18 in Strikers. Which is what I'm talking about. Nice try though.
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Indeed she is but that still doesnt mean she has full access to the money depending what her dad put in place and such. Strikers implies she wont have full control of everything until after she finishes college.

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Sorry, nothing in P5 is worse than the buildup to the fight against Yaldabaoth. That shit just seemed to drag on and on.

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spikethedevil posted...

Indeed she is but that still doesnt mean she has full access to the money depending what her dad put in place and such. Strikers implies she wont have full control of everything until after she finishes college.

Lol. Totally. She has absolutely no money at all times, her father wrote that in his will. Good lord.
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Slayer_22 posted...

Lol. Totally. She has absolutely no money at all times, her father wrote that in his will. Good lord.

I never implied she had no money so nice reach, just that she doesnt have access to all of it which is a fairly common thing as you can get various accounts that do various things like dont unlock till a set date or only allow someone to use X amount per month and same can go for inheritance as well.

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CyricZ posted...

Oh.

This where you done fucked up.

Haru honestly deserved better. She had to share the stage with Morgana and wasnt given any stand out or interesting character moments like other teammates.

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spikethedevil posted...

I never implied she had no money so nice reach, just that she doesnt have access to all of it which is a fairly common thing as you can get various accounts that do various things like dont unlock till a set date or only allow someone to use X amount per month and same can go for inheritance as well.

Can't throw out 20 bucks a month to give her friend a lifeline though, smh.
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Yusuke also flat put refuses any handouts and hes all about that poor artist life style for some reason.

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i quit the game because of this arc
not because it was bad, just because the game had gone on so fucking long at that point, and no matter how much i enjoyed it, i was burnt the fuck out

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It's a damn shame that Hard is so underappreciated:

• Fluffy hair
  
• Cute as shit
  
• Refined palette
• Rich as hell
• TIGHTS!!!!!
• Biggest boobies in the party
  
• Giant forehead

She's an A+ waifu, and y'all sleepin on her.

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I think Ann is larger than her.

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spikethedevil posted...

I think Ann is larger than her.

She just hides them with her baggy sweater:



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Slayer_22 posted...

If the topic explicitly about Makoto or the worst palace in the game, of course imma mention Makoto. Just because you've seen me shit talk your waifu in 2 topics doesn't mean I do it in every P5 topic lol.

Shes not my waifu. Im not nearly invested enough into P5 like you are. All Im saying is that Makoto lives rent free in your head. Hell, you were the first user in this topic to bring her up out of nowhere when it was specifically about the space palace which is universally agreed to be the lowest point in the game.

I dont care for Futaba but I dont go out of my way to seethe uncontrollably about her. Like I said my man, rent free. You should probably do something about that. Its unhealthy.


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Futaba Palace has the best music

fucc off the airship music is some of the best

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Scarecrow17 posted...

Shes not my waifu. Im not nearly invested enough into P5 like you are. All Im saying is that Makoto lives rent free in your head. Hell, you were the first user in this topic to bring her up out of nowhere when it was specifically about the space palace which is universally agreed to be the lowest point in the game.

I dont care for Futaba but I dont go out of my way to seethe uncontrollably about her. Like I said my man, rent free. You should probably do something about that. Its unhealthy.

I'm comparing the Okumura arc to the Kaneshiro arc in terms of context of worst arc.

I'm so sorry I'm critical of your waifu in 2 topics?
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coolpal23 posted...

fucc off the airship music is some of the best

It's still good, but I can't in good faith say it's better than any of the other Palace themes, especially considering it's right in the middle of two of the best.

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Slayer_22 posted...

I'm comparing the Okumura arc to the Kaneshiro arc in terms of context of worst arc.

I'm so sorry I'm critical of your waifu in 2 topics?

And Im sorry you cant read because Ive already stated that I dont have a waifu.

Im not going to restate my post. Reread it again since you need to apparently. Im not even sure why I engaged with you. I specifically remember you stating before that youre okay with enslaving the human race if it means killing stops. Says a lot about you, man.

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Scarecrow17 posted...

And Im sorry you cant read because Ive already stated that I dont have a waifu.

Im not going to restate my post. Reread it again since you need to apparently. Im not even sure why I engaged with you. I specifically remember you stating before that youre okay with enslaving the human race if it means killing stops. Says a lot about you, man.

No, I said I'm okay with Maruki's ideal if it means child sex trafficking stops, but if you support that, that's on you, fella.

Also, don't need to hide your waifu. Given how hard you're going to bad for it.
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Bryfang posted...

PowerOats posted...

Futaba Palace has the best music

Its good, although Madarames Palace gives it a run for its money.

But then __Sae__ and Maruki come and blow her out the water.

The Whims of Fate and Gentle Madman fucking slaps.

The best palace music is Freedom and Security

Prove me wrong
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You know, I came across this screenshot recently and it really put things in perspective:



That's an extreme example, but it sums up a lot of how I feel about GameFAQs.

Like, we're really going to accuse each other of endorsing child sex trafficking over Persona 5? Is that the fucking depths of rhetorical mud-slinging we're going to sink to in an argument about anime girls in a video game we all like?

This is fucking stupid. If you want to diminish yourself to bother other people, then go and be an annoyance. But Christ, it's pathetic how seriously some people take this stupid horseshit.

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RchHomieQuanChi posted...

I like Haru too, but she doesn't get nearly as much focus as the other thieves :/

No where near as much focus =/= Forgettable. Yusuke Kitagawa is the most forgettable member of the Phantom Thieves.

MrMallard posted...

Like, we're really going to accuse each other of endorsing child sex trafficking over Persona 5? Is that the fucking depths of rhetorical mud-slinging we're going to sink to in an argument about anime girls in a video game we all like?

No, you misunderstood. That was explicitly my fault for not clarifying, but I meant to say he supports the real world in which that exists rather than the perfect world where it 100% doesnt . I really wasn't trying to accuse him of that, but I really didn't help my case by not wording it correctly.

That was my bad. He did accuse me of wanting to enslave people, though, which is also pretty absurd.