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Antifar 09/23/21 12:22:35 PM #1:	https://twitter.com/daveweigel/status/1441063367062564865 --- kin to all that throbs <cite>Antifar posted [p:958331886] in Andrew Yan... [t:79675421]...</cite> <quote>https://twitter.com/daveweigel/status/1441063367062564865 </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Turbam 09/23/21 12:26:19 PM #3:	What does human centered capitalism mean? Does this mean I get more or less money?!?!?!! --- ~snip (V)_(;,;)_(V) snip~ I'm just one man! Whoa! Well, I'm a one man band! https://imgur.com/p9Xvjvs <cite>Turbam posted [p:958332012] in Andrew Yan... [t:79675421]...</cite> <quote>What does human centered capitalism mean? Does this mean I get more or less money?!?!?!! </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Intro2Logic 09/23/21 12:29:01 PM #4:	Only two of those actually mean anything --- Have you tried thinking rationally? <cite>Intro2Logic posted [p:958332126] in Andrew Yan... [t:79675421]...</cite> <quote>Only two of those actually mean anything </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
theAteam 09/23/21 12:29:51 PM #5:	Turbam posted... What does human centered capitalism mean? Does this mean I get more or less money?!?!?!! European style capitalism --- Buffalo Bills Season Prediction: 13-4 Season: 1-1 Week 3: vs. WFT <cite>theAteam posted [p:958332160] in Andrew Yan... [t:79675421]...</cite> <quote>Turbam posted... </cite> <quote>What does human centered capitalism mean? Does this mean I get more or less money?!?!?!!</quote> European style capitalism </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Turbam 09/23/21 12:32:18 PM #7:	theAteam posted... European style capitalism DO THEY GET MORE OR LESS MONEY!?!?! --- ~snip (V)_(;,;)_(V) snip~ I'm just one man! Whoa! Well, I'm a one man band! https://imgur.com/p9Xvjvs <cite>Turbam posted [p:958332240] in Andrew Yan... [t:79675421]...</cite> <quote>theAteam posted... </cite> <quote>European style capitalism</quote>DO THEY GET MORE OR LESS MONEY!?!?! </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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nexigrams 09/23/21 12:36:04 PM #9:	Turbam posted... What does human centered capitalism mean? Does this mean I get more or less money?!?!?!! It means capitalism with the goal of improving people's lives instead of corporate greed as its underlying function. Which, of course, is total antithetical bullshit which makes no sense whatsoever. In a free and open market that rewards profits above all else, there will always be someone willing to pay less, outsource for child/slave labor, use destructive yet more profitable manufacturing methods, etc. and so on. There's no way to do capitalism without it being a race to the bottom, it's just an oxymoron. --- https://imgur.com/SYiqIRC <cite>nexigrams posted [p:958332370] in Andrew Yan... [t:79675421]...</cite> <quote>Turbam posted... </cite> <quote>What does human centered capitalism mean? Does this mean I get more or less money?!?!?!!</quote>It means capitalism with the goal of improving people's lives instead of corporate greed as its underlying function. Which, of course, is total antithetical bullshit which makes no sense whatsoever. In a free and open market that rewards profits above all else, there will always be someone willing to pay less, outsource for child/slave labor, use destructive yet more profitable manufacturing methods, etc. and so on. There's no way to do capitalism without it being a race to the bottom, it's just an oxymoron. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ElatedVenusaur 09/23/21 12:42:12 PM #10:	nexigrams posted... It means capitalism with the goal of improving people's lives instead of corporate greed as its underlying function. Which, of course, is total antithetical bullshit which makes no sense whatsoever. In a free and open market that rewards profits above all else, there will always be someone willing to pay less, outsource for child/slave labor, use destructive yet more profitable manufacturing methods, etc. and so on. There's no way to do capitalism without it being a race to the bottom, it's just an oxymoron. Indeed. When considering what Yang means by it, it's important to remember his plan was to scrap(or was it just a choice? That would be less monstrous, to be fair) most current social welfare programs and "replace" them with his UBI plan. --- She/her <cite>ElatedVenusaur posted [p:958332578] in Andrew Yan... [t:79675421]...</cite> <quote>nexigrams posted... </cite> <quote>It means capitalism with the goal of improving people's lives instead of corporate greed as its underlying function. Which, of course, is total antithetical bullshit which makes no sense whatsoever. In a free and open market that rewards profits above all else, there will always be someone willing to pay less, outsource for child/slave labor, use destructive yet more profitable manufacturing methods, etc. and so on. There's no way to do capitalism without it being a race to the bottom, it's just an oxymoron.</quote>Indeed. When considering what Yang means by it, it's important to remember his plan was to scrap(or was it just a choice? That would be less monstrous, to be fair) most current social welfare programs and "replace" them with his UBI plan. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
s0nicfan 09/23/21 12:50:00 PM #11:	ElatedVenusaur posted... Indeed. When considering what Yang means by it, it's important to remember his plan was to scrap(or was it just a choice? That would be less monstrous, to be fair) most current social welfare programs and "replace" them with his UBI plan. The way he had it set up you could opt to take the UBI payments instead of your current welfare plans, but you weren't forced to go one way or the other. Part of his breakdown for how he would fund it was the expectation that some percentage of people would take the cash which would result in reduced overhead costs for those other agencies. I still don't see what makes it "monstrous", though. If you say poor people are bad with money people get angry at you, but if you propose getting rid of structured plans in exchange for a flat check people act like the recipients will end up a starving or something. The idea of giving people the same amount they would have received, only with fewer restrictions, and without the need for massive government bureaucracies to manage it seems fine on paper. The only way it would be a bad idea is, again, if you believe that the recipients would blow their money on things they don't need and end up destitute. --- "History Is Much Like An Endless Waltz. The Three Beats Of War, Peace And Revolution Continue On Forever." - Gundam Wing: Endless Waltz <cite>s0nicfan posted [p:958332789] in Andrew Yan... [t:79675421]...</cite> <quote>ElatedVenusaur posted... </cite> <quote>Indeed. When considering what Yang means by it, it's important to remember his plan was to scrap(or was it just a choice? That would be less monstrous, to be fair) most current social welfare programs and "replace" them with his UBI plan.</quote> The way he had it set up you could opt to take the UBI payments instead of your current welfare plans, but you weren't forced to go one way or the other. Part of his breakdown for how he would fund it was the expectation that some percentage of people would take the cash which would result in reduced overhead costs for those other agencies. I still don't see what makes it "monstrous", though. If you say poor people are bad with money people get angry at you, but if you propose getting rid of structured plans in exchange for a flat check people act like the recipients will end up a starving or something. The idea of giving people the same amount they would have received, only with fewer restrictions, and without the need for massive government bureaucracies to manage it seems fine on paper. The only way it would be a bad idea is, again, if you believe that the recipients would blow their money on things they don't need and end up destitute. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Intro2Logic 09/23/21 12:53:30 PM #12:	s0nicfan posted... The idea of giving people the same amount they would have received, only with fewer restrictions, and without the need for massive government bureaucracies to manage it seems fine on paper But what if that amount of money is insufficient regardless of the restrictions? --- Have you tried thinking rationally? <cite>Intro2Logic posted [p:958332884] in Andrew Yan... [t:79675421]...</cite> <quote>s0nicfan posted... </cite> <quote>The idea of giving people the same amount they would have received, only with fewer restrictions, and without the need for massive government bureaucracies to manage it seems fine on paper</quote>But what if that amount of money is insufficient regardless of the restrictions? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Lathissamus 09/23/21 12:54:43 PM #13:	Is that the Business Dem who sold out first chance he got? --- https://imgur.com/olOXz6h https://imgur.com/kaFczn3 <cite>Lathissamus posted [p:958332935] in Andrew Yan... [t:79675421]...</cite> <quote>Is that the Business Dem who sold out first chance he got? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
s0nicfan 09/23/21 12:55:34 PM #14:	Intro2Logic posted... But what if that amount of money is insufficient regardless of the restrictions? Then they would still be receiving no less than they did before? I don't understand the question. If I give you $10 on a card that can only work on three brands of food and is managed by an agency, or alternatively I just give you $10, you're getting the exact same amount either way but with more freedom of choice. The only difference is is that I don't then have to pay an office full of workers to manage that card program. --- "History Is Much Like An Endless Waltz. The Three Beats Of War, Peace And Revolution Continue On Forever." - Gundam Wing: Endless Waltz <cite>s0nicfan posted [p:958332959] in Andrew Yan... [t:79675421]...</cite> <quote>Intro2Logic posted... </cite> <quote>But what if that amount of money is insufficient regardless of the restrictions?</quote> Then they would still be receiving no less than they did before? I don't understand the question. If I give you $10 on a card that can only work on three brands of food and is managed by an agency, or alternatively I just give you $10, you're getting the exact same amount either way but with more freedom of choice. The only difference is is that I don't then have to pay an office full of workers to manage that card program. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Zikten 09/23/21 1:32:20 PM #15:	Lathissamus posted... Is that the Business Dem who sold out first chance he got? He ran for president, and then for new York city mayor. Lost both <cite>Zikten posted [p:958334118] in Andrew Yan... [t:79675421]...</cite> <quote>Lathissamus posted...</cite> <quote>Is that the Business Dem who sold out first chance he got? </quote> He ran for president, and then for new York city mayor. Lost both</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
bigtiggie23 09/23/21 2:06:51 PM #16:	so which of those means WWE is still in trouble? --- Seeing people get defeated by a paper towel dispenser will always be hilarious. <cite>bigtiggie23 posted [p:958335201] in Andrew Yan... [t:79675421]...</cite> <quote>so which of those means WWE is still in trouble?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Trumble 09/23/21 2:08:54 PM #17:	Intro2Logic posted... Only two of those actually mean anything This. The other four are very vague. --- And God said, Let there be Trumble: and there was Trumble. <cite>Trumble posted [p:958335258] in Andrew Yan... [t:79675421]...</cite> <quote>Intro2Logic posted... </cite> <quote>Only two of those actually mean anything</quote>This. The other four are very vague. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Antifar 09/23/21 10:48:30 PM #18:	bump --- kin to all that throbs <cite>Antifar posted [p:958355645] in Andrew Yan... [t:79675421]...</cite> <quote>bump </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Heineken14 09/23/21 10:51:10 PM #19:	Eh, better then republicans which is just "do whatever Donnie wants." --- Rage is a hell of an anesthetic. <cite>Heineken14 posted [p:958355735] in Andrew Yan... [t:79675421]...</cite> <quote>Eh, better then republicans which is just "do whatever Donnie wants."</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Antifar 09/23/21 10:53:00 PM #20:	Heineken14 posted... Eh, better then republicans which is just "do whatever Donnie wants." We already have an "eh, better than Republicans" party, though --- kin to all that throbs <cite>Antifar posted [p:958355799] in Andrew Yan... [t:79675421]...</cite> <quote>Heineken14 posted... </cite> <quote>Eh, better then republicans which is just "do whatever Donnie wants."</quote>We already have an "eh, better than Republicans" party, though </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Damn_Underscore 09/23/21 10:53:55 PM #21:	I will only support a third party if they actually focus on winning local elections. --- Her name is Rio and she dances on the sand. <cite>Damn_Underscore posted [p:958355839] in Andrew Yan... [t:79675421]...</cite> <quote>I will only support a third party if they actually focus on winning local elections. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Heineken14 09/23/21 10:54:43 PM #22:	Antifar posted... We already have an "eh, better than Republicans" party, though Was more just wishful thinking of hoping the GOP would fuck off the face of the earth and we'd have Democrats and this party. :( --- Rage is a hell of an anesthetic. <cite>Heineken14 posted [p:958355873] in Andrew Yan... [t:79675421]...</cite> <quote>Antifar posted...</cite> <quote> We already have an "eh, better than Republicans" party, though </quote> Was more just wishful thinking of hoping the GOP would fuck off the face of the earth and we'd have Democrats and this party. :(</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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