Current Events > George Lucas's ex wife mad about Sequel Trilogy

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I really feel like I'm in a minority when I say I enjoyed the sequels and thought, in the moment, that they were better than the prequels. They're fun popcorn flicks where the story is shit but there's explosions, flashy stuff, and decent acting. Meanwhile even though the prequels have an...okay story, I can't sit through watching them again because of poor pacing, shit acting and dialogue. Episode 2 literally bored me so much I slept through it.

At least the soundtracks in the prequel trilogy are awesome, though.

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FortuneCookie posted...

I mean, what he'd been introduced to so far was being able to use the Force to aim, to move objects with one's mind, to the guide one's senses amid deprivation, and he had a starter lesson on the lightsaber.

Rey literally closed her eyes and defeated a trained fighter.

It's not always a different for girls scenario. Sometimes, Hollywood does an ass-pull for one character and not another.

Having spend the past 2 weeks rewatching all 11 movies I'm pretty sure that Luke had never seen or heard Force Pull before using it. Hence me stating numerous times that he had no knowledge of "being able to move objects with one's mind". The first time it is used beyond Vader choking Imperial officers (which Luke never sees) is by Luke on Hoth. If I'm wrong I'd like for you to show me where in ANH he sees that.

And yeah, I've already established that Rey's feats are asspulls. The thing is that Luke, to a lesser extent, has asspulls as well that are met with "b-b-but" in order to not tarnish the Scifi Messiah

TheSavageDragon posted...

That Lucas quote is amusing though. "We don't know how Rey got her Jedi powers" says man that created midichlorians and Space Jesus.I gues he's satisfied after Episode IX

Anakin didnt hear about the Force one day and have access to all of its abilities like Rey did. Anakin went to Jedi school for 10 years and fought 3 years in the clone wars.

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IShall_Run_Amok posted...

and I found the sequels as a whole to be a breath of fresh air

I find this hard to believe, since the ST is basically a repeat of the OT.

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ViewtifulGrave posted...

Anakin didnt hear about the Force one day and have access to all of its abilities like Rey did. Anakin went to Jedi school for 10 years and fought 3 years in the clone wars.

My point was that it was amusing to read Lucas saying "but where did she get Jedi powers" when his explanation for Anakin being attuned to the Force so was "He has a high midichlorian count because of immaculate conception". We're better of not knowing.

Point's moot anyway as it was not George that said it.

ViewtifulGrave posted...

I find this hard to believe, since the ST is basically a repeat of the OT.

Yeah, but I like the originals, and I don't like the PT.

I think the sequels could have drawn more from the originals than they did, and they would have been better for it.

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George Lucas personally hand picked Kathleen Kennedy to take over and Steven Spielberg literally begged JJ AND his wife to let JJ do the ST.

Sounds like they both fucked up.

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TheSavageDragon posted...

My point was that it was amusing to read Lucas saying "but where did she get Jedi powers" when his explanation for Anakin being attuned to the Force so was "He has a high midichlorian count because of immaculate conception". We're better of not knowing.

Point's moot anyway as it was not George that said it.

Dude, simping for Rey and the Sequel Trilogy is just embarrassing. Quit while you're behind, my guy.

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Ilishe posted...

The sequel trilogy is trash.

That's all that need to be said.

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Squall28 posted...

I'm not. Sequels>Prequels>OT. The OT is legit bad when you aren't blinded by nostalgia goggles.

And to ignore list we go

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ColdOne666 posted...

And to ignore list we go

TheSavageDragon posted...

Having spend the past 2 weeks rewatching all 11 movies I'm pretty sure that Luke had never seen or heard Force Pull before using it. Hence me stating numerous times that he had no knowledge of "being able to move objects with one's mind". The first time it is used beyond Vader choking Imperial officers (which Luke never sees) is by Luke on Hoth. If I'm wrong I'd like for you to show me where in ANH he sees that.

And yeah, I've already established that Rey's feats are asspulls. The thing is that Luke, to a lesser extent, has asspulls as well that are met with "b-b-but" in order to not tarnish the Scifi Messiah

The Force guides the torpedo into the shaft. He knows it can move things.

FortuneCookie posted...

The Force guides the torpedo into the shaft. He knows it can move things.

So it's okay for Luke to know things he can't possibly know. Got it

cjsdowg posted...

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TheSavageDragon posted...

So it's okay for Luke to know things he can't possibly know. Got it

The ghost of Obi-Wan told him what to do and he did it.

He was told to trust the Force and he did it. We then see the torpedo, which should move in a straight line, make a sharp curve and go into the exhaust port.

That's a bit different from someone picking up a sword for the first time and defending a trained duelist.

George Lucas, Mark Hamill, and now Marcia Lucas spoke out against the sequel trilogy. Is this correct

sLaCkEr408___RJ posted...

George Lucas, Mark Hamill, and now Marcia Lucas spoke out against the sequel trilogy. Is this correct

the guy who played finn spoke out on how his character got screwed throughout the trilogy like a year ago

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SSJ2GrimReaper posted...

the guy who played finn spoke out on how his character got screwed throughout the trilogy like a year ago

John Boyega

yea

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I wonder who else from the OT had something to say

sLaCkEr408___RJ posted...

I wonder who else from the OT had something to say

Jabba said, "Aich nee, oba sodo. Nach-put. Da da so no wan chuka. Don nee saba."

Unfortunately, I don't speak Hutt and neither does Google translate.

https://youtu.be/_Tms_Hs7G_w

You don't need George Lucas or his ex wife to see the sequel trilogy is garbage and the problem was the direction and writing behind it.

i stopped at the one with luke sucking on alien cow titties

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TheShadowViper posted...

You don't need George Lucas or his ex wife

This, in whatever direction you go in.

Marcia Lucas was certainly talented enough to reel in her ex-husband, but "getting" Star Wars isn't a single person's call in any respect.

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Sequel trilogy hate is honestly so cringey.

Especially because you know its the same people who endlessly complained about the prequels but now decide those are good movies.

Or they love The Mandalorian and Rogue One despite those having things in them that, if they were in the sequels, people would complain about.

People do this with every nerdy franchise. You get it in your heads how you think they should be and then act like it was some personal offense that the movies didnt turn out the way you want.

And in ten years, youll all be talking about how great they were and that you didnt realize it, while youre all jerking each other off about whatever new thing youve decided to hate.

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rexcrk posted...

And in ten years, youll all be talking about how great they were and that you didnt realize it, while youre all jerking each other off about whatever new thing youve decided to hate.

God we should be so lucky.

I've found TLJ in particular to be an anomaly in that cycle. We're four years out and it's still just as fresh to hate on it.

Like compare Game of Thrones. Who is seriously talking about that anymore?

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rexcrk posted...

Especially because you know its the same people

This is cringey because you think you know

rexcrk posted...

Sequel trilogy hate is honestly so cringey.

Especially because you know its the same people who endlessly complained about the prequels but now decide those are good movies.

Or they love The Mandalorian and Rogue One despite those having things in them that, if they were in the sequels, people would complain about.

People do this with every nerdy franchise. You get it in your heads how you think they should be and then act like it was some personal offense that the movies didnt turn out the way you want.

And in ten years, youll all be talking about how great they were and that you didnt realize it, while youre all jerking each other off about whatever new thing youve decided to hate.

At this rate, reading initial critical reviews of TLJ is a refreshing experience. Nobody cares about disappearing knives, or "the lore" of hyperspace ramming, or "not my Luke" because those issues hadn't been invented yet. Like, look at Kim Newman's review.

https://www2.bfi.org.uk/news-opinion/sight-sound-magazine/reviews-recommendations/star-wars-episode-viii-last-jedi-eighth-time-charm

He doesn't care about the made up bullshit. He's just some geeky little boomer who is glad to have seen an adventure movie with a little bit of meat and some funny penguin monsters.

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Mr Hangman posted...

The sequels are aimless garbage, it's so painfully obvious that they had no idea what to do.

They may have in the beginning, but they didn't plan it out. The first movie came together, set up some stuff, and had people asking questions and eager to see where it goes. Then Mr. Subverting Expectations came along and flushed everything they had set up down the toilet, and made some sweeping changes of his own, so they were fucked for the third movie.

Rise of Skywalker was basically them waking up at 7 am after a bender, realizing they have a final to take at 9 and that they haven't studied. So they crammed whatever they could in and hoped for the best.

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The Force Awakens was fine.
The Last Jedi was divisive, but at the very least I think it touched on some decent ideas and concepts.
The Rise of Skywalker made literally none of it matter.

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mybbqrules posted...

Then Mr. Subverting Expectations came along and flushed everything they had set up down the toilet, and made some sweeping changes of his own, so they were fucked for the third movie.

I place the blame squarely on J.J. Abrams for that and this issue with unsatisfying/disappointing answers isn't exclusive to just the sequel trilogy.

IIRC, Daisy Ridley mentioned that J.J. Abrams didn't even know what Rey's origin would be until The Rise of Skywalker and that he kept going back and forth between making her a Kenobi or a Palpatine.

I can only assume that Rian Johnson was given the barest of frameworks to work with and, not knowing what direction things were supposed to head in, he just scrapped it all and did his own thing.

And then there's people missing the entire point of the movie in the first place by constantly quoting the villains or people who are explicitly stated to be wrong out-of-context.

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RchHomieQuanChi posted...

I place the blame squarely on J.J. Abrams for that and this issue with unsatisfying/disappointing answers isn't exclusive to just the sequel trilogy.

IIRC, Daisy Ridley mentioned that J.J. Abrams didn't even know what Rey's origin would be until The Rise of Skywalker and that he kept going back and forth between making her a Kenobi or a Palpatine.

I can only assume that Rian Johnson was given the barest of frameworks to work with and, not knowing what direction things were supposed to head in, he just scrapped it all and did his own thing.

And then there's people missing the entire point of the movie in the first place by constantly quoting the villains or people who are explicitly stated to be wrong out-of-context.

Nah, it's Kathleen Kennedy's fault. She is the one who let each director do whatever they wanted in the movies. She is the one who didn't make a script for a trilogy or have any direction for it. Also jj abrams did do a outline for it but rian Johnson threw it out cause he wanted to do his own thing. They were just making a new trilogy as they went with zero direction.

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