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Swagnet0
09/17/21 12:25:17 PM
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yyOxmHx1heI

He'll be great for abare focused players but I can see how he'll be used early on as more of a grappler/tank hybrid. We'll see how he's meant to be used once tournaments start up, I guess.

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Swagnet0
09/17/21 1:22:34 PM
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hello?

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TheRadiant
09/17/21 1:25:55 PM
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That's my main

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-Unowninator-
09/17/21 1:29:20 PM
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Laser toot? I get most of his other attacks, but Laser toot?
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PatrickMahomes
09/17/21 1:30:58 PM
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i just don't understand how nintendo hasn't sued

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LordFarquad1312
09/17/21 1:32:03 PM
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Nobody cares about a shitty licensed Smash clone, and it's pathetic that people are trying to make it a thing.

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LightHawKnight
09/17/21 1:32:15 PM
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PatrickMahomes posted...
i just don't understand how nintendo hasn't sued

Why would Nintendo sue?

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Arcanine2009
09/17/21 1:32:25 PM
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it's gonna take weeks if not months to see top tiers.. Disjointed doesn't mean top tier.

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Solid Sonic
09/17/21 1:35:17 PM
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PatrickMahomes posted...
i just don't understand how nintendo hasn't sued

Are you okay?

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Solid Sonic
09/17/21 1:35:50 PM
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LordFarquad1312 posted...
Nobody cares about a shitty licensed Smash clone, and it's pathetic that people are trying to make it a thing.

Are you upset DreamWorks Dynamic Dust-Up was never a thing?

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Swagnet0
09/17/21 1:38:10 PM
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LordFarquad1312 posted...
Nobody cares about a shitty licensed Smash clone, and it's pathetic that people are trying to make it a thing.
living up to your name's origin

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AngelsNAirwav3s
09/17/21 1:38:52 PM
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This will be popular for 2 weeks before becoming just a side event at tournaments

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Questionmarktarius
09/17/21 1:39:11 PM
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Solid Sonic posted...
Are you upset DreamWorks Dynamic Dust-Up was never a thing?
It certainly wouldn't hurt my feelings if Troma made a Smash knockoff.
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soulunison2
09/17/21 1:40:33 PM
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LordFarquad1312 posted...
Nobody cares about a shitty licensed Smash clone, and it's pathetic that people are trying to make it a thing.

looks better than ultimate
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Damn_Underscore
09/17/21 1:43:38 PM
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AngelsNAirwav3s posted...
This will be popular for 2 weeks before becoming just a side event at tournaments

lol who cares about tournaments

if its a good Smash clone available on all consoles that would be pretty awesome. And the mods on PC could be great.

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Solar_Crimson
09/17/21 1:53:37 PM
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PatrickMahomes posted...
i just don't understand how nintendo hasn't sued
Nintendo has nothing to sue about.

soulunison2 posted...
looks better than ultimate
I disagree. This game lacks the oomph and polish that Ultimate has, and looks pretty soulless and kind of janky. I know that Sakurai's team is much bigger than Ludosity and has a bigger budget, but it doesn't change the end result.

Of course, I have no nostalgia for Nickelodeon, so that also doesn't help me.

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happibivouac
09/17/21 1:54:44 PM
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Swagnet0 posted...
hello?
it's only been 30 minutes man chill out

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AngelsNAirwav3s
09/17/21 1:56:40 PM
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Damn_Underscore posted...
lol who cares about tournaments

if its a good Smash clone available on all consoles that would be pretty awesome. And the mods on PC could be great.

Rivals of Aether has been available on all consoles for a few years now

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Damn_Underscore
09/17/21 1:57:46 PM
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AngelsNAirwav3s posted...
Rivals of Aether has been available on all consoles for a few years now

Having the Nickelodeon name attached to it is a pretty big deal tho

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CaptainOfCrush
09/17/21 1:57:52 PM
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The lack of any character voices (hell, any character *sounds* apart from basic attack sound effects) makes the game feel low-energy and kind of cheap. =/

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Srk700
09/17/21 1:58:55 PM
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PatrickMahomes posted...
i just don't understand how nintendo hasn't sued

They can't sue just because a game has similar mechanics to one of their games. If that were the case the gaming industry would be very barren right now.
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LordFarquad1312
09/17/21 1:59:51 PM
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Srk700 posted...
They can't sue just because a game has similar mechanics to one of their games. If that were the case the gaming industry would be very barren right now.
Nah, they're just decent and don't copyright mechanics, unlike WB.

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Jerry_Hellyeah
09/17/21 2:01:09 PM
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soulunison2 posted...
looks better than ultimate

Name 1 thing that looks better.

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Trumble
09/17/21 2:02:52 PM
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LordFarquad1312 posted...
Nah, they're just decent and don't copyright mechanics, unlike WB.
You can't copyright mechanics. That's not how copyright works. You could copyright the exact source code that implements them, but not the idea itself.

You could theoretically patent them, although not really sure anyone would be able to demonstrate that their games are sufficiently original to secure a patent at this point.

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LordFarquad1312
09/17/21 2:06:56 PM
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Trumble posted...
You can't copyright mechanics. That's not how copyright works. You could copyright the exact source code that implements them, but not the idea itself.
Tell that to WB. They copyrighted the Nemesis system.

EDIT: Wait, they patented it.

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soulunison2
09/17/21 2:38:30 PM
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Jerry_Hellyeah posted...
Name 1 thing that looks better.

its got wavedashing
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viewmaster_pi
09/17/21 2:44:37 PM
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the real answer is it's got better online. everything else looks janky as fuck

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Jagr_68
09/17/21 2:44:39 PM
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Lmfao internet meming the fuck out of this game.

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Solar_Crimson
09/17/21 2:48:37 PM
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viewmaster_pi posted...
the real answer is it's got better online. everything else looks janky as fuck
Yeah, this is the one thing I can credit Nick All-Stars Brawl for, though rollback can't really work in a game like Smash unless it's just 1v1 on the most basic of stages and settings. Otherwise, Smash has way too many variables involved for rollback to be a viable option as of now (Sakurai said that he did look to implementing rollback during development, but decided against it, likely for those very reasons).

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Arcanine2009
09/17/21 2:56:50 PM
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they got twice as many aerials. Not bad. No ground tilts, but its just divided into heavy and strong attacks (two separate buttons).. I hope this game gets voice work. It should have from the start.

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Solar_Crimson
09/17/21 2:58:06 PM
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Arcanine2009 posted...
they got twice as many aerials. Not bad. No ground tilts, but its just divided into heavy and strong attacks (two separate buttons).. I hope this game gets voice work. It should have from the start.
Not quite. They have six aerials split between weak and strong, vs. Smash's five, and half of the Nick aerials seem to just be air versions of their ground moves.

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AngelsNAirwav3s
09/17/21 2:59:37 PM
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Solar_Crimson posted...
Yeah, this is the one thing I can credit Nick All-Stars Brawl for, though rollback can't really work in a game like Smash unless it's just 1v1 on the most basic of stages and settings. Otherwise, Smash has way too many variables involved for rollback to be a viable option as of now (Sakurai said that he did look to implementing rollback during development, but decided against it, likely for those very reasons).

I really wish Sakurai would have just lowered the frame rate and graphics resolution in the 1 vs 1 For Glory mode, and used roll back. 99% of players who want to play somewhat competitively dont give a shit about how pretty it looks lol

The competitive scene is pretty big in Japan too, I dont know how Nintendo didnt just get their input on what they think would be the best way for online competitive to work? Elite Smash is trash, even if it did have roll back.

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09/17/21 3:01:12 PM
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Frosted_Midna
09/17/21 3:03:40 PM
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-Unowninator- posted...
Laser toot? I get most of his other attacks, but Laser toot?

It was from an episode of Spongebob where Spongebob and Patrick were acting like spies to figure out if "Plankton" (who was secretly Mr. Krabs) was gonna steal the Krabby Patty Formula. Patrick had a laser he ate, and he was farting lasers from his butt.

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Swagnet0
09/17/21 3:07:30 PM
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yeah I didnt recognize it either. found out it's from season 5, aka an irrelevant season

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Solar_Crimson
09/17/21 3:08:33 PM
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AngelsNAirwav3s posted...
The competitive scene is pretty big in Japan too, I dont know how Nintendo didnt just get their input on what they think would be the best way for online competitive to work? Elite Smash is trash, even if it did have roll back.
The issue seems to be more with Sakurai than with Nintendo itself. Nintendo seems to be find with online modes in their own in-house games, such as Mario Kart 8, Splatoon, and ARMS. Sakurai seems to think that a ranking system wouldn't be fun, hence the mess that is Global Smash Power. And it's not like he's completely opposed to competitive gameplay, especially given his history with fighting games, but I guess the incident where he utterly curbstomped a newbie in one of the King of Fighters games in an arcade back in the 90's really stuck with him.

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Delirious_Beard
09/17/21 6:43:22 PM
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Jerry_Hellyeah posted...
Name 1 thing that looks better.

the movement

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The_Hat
09/17/21 6:49:51 PM
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LordFarquad1312 posted...
Tell that to WB. They copyrighted the Nemesis system.

EDIT: Wait, they patented it.

Someone also patented playing another game during loading screens which is why you don't see that anymore.
I think guru Larry has a video on stupid game patients.

Edit: found it
https://youtu.be/jZvD2IOvop8


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Prismsblade
09/17/21 6:59:16 PM
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Solar_Crimson posted...
Nintendo has nothing to sue about.

I disagree. This game lacks the oomph and polish that Ultimate has, and looks pretty soulless and kind of janky. I know that Sakurai's team is much bigger than Ludosity and has a bigger budget, but it doesn't change the end result.

Of course, I have no nostalgia for Nickelodeon, so that also doesn't help me.
With enough support and time that will likely change. That and and game is releasing for all consoles so it really only has competition for for genre on one console.

And even then depending on how fun the gameplsy is along eith it's netcode smash players may transition if only because it's online is playable.

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Hornswoggled
09/17/21 7:11:26 PM
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Do people think this game is a gonna be great or something?

Looks like licensed trash to me. Stop being consoomers and being dazzled by mediocre shit because it's based on things you like.
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The_Hat
09/17/21 7:16:19 PM
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Hornswoggled posted...
Do people think this game is a gonna be great or something?

Looks like licensed trash to me. Stop being consoomers and being dazzled by mediocre shit because it's based on things you like.

I thought it was a meme game at first to, but I've changed my mind. The devs have done multiple of these character moveset reveals, have said they want to have great netcode for competitive play, are Melee fans, and I've seen seen a hotbox graphic for SpongeBob that I think is official. All that shows a lot of dedication and I think it could be legitimately a good game.
If it does well enough the sequel will probably have more characters and voice actors, so I'll be buying it day one if I can.

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Swagnet0
09/17/21 7:19:01 PM
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Hornswoggled posted...
Do people think this game is a gonna be great or something?

Looks like licensed trash to me. Stop being consoomers and being dazzled by mediocre shit because it's based on things you like.
zzzz

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AngelsNAirwav3s
09/17/21 7:29:29 PM
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Is there any single player at all? Some sort of ladder at least, like Smash 64?

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LightningAce11
09/17/21 7:30:12 PM
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Honestly, this game should not be full price.

It should be like a $20 title from what I've seen so far.

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A_Field_Lover
09/17/21 10:48:19 PM
#46:


AngelsNAirwav3s posted...
Is there any single player at all? Some sort of ladder at least, like Smash 64?
Some alternative modes were confirmed in an interview.

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-Unowninator-
09/17/21 11:21:22 PM
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Frosted_Midna posted...


It was from an episode of Spongebob where Spongebob and Patrick were acting like spies to figure out if "Plankton" (who was secretly Mr. Krabs) was gonna steal the Krabby Patty Formula. Patrick had a laser he ate, and he was farting lasers from his butt.

Ah, thanks.
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Swagnet0
09/18/21 1:28:26 AM
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lol

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Swagnet0
09/18/21 2:56:35 AM
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lol no

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