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Winrawr 09/12/21 10:57:07 PM #1:	People who think IQ tests aren't 'real' or accurate for measuring intelligence Are right Just have low IQs Have absolutely no idea what they are talking about People who think IQ tests aren't 'real' or accurate for measuring intelligence - Results (64 votes) Are right 65.63% (42 votes) 42 Just have low IQs 9.38% (6 votes) 6 Have absolutely no idea what they are talking about 25% (16 votes) 16 I hate science <cite>Winrawr posted [p:957998261] in People who... [t:79658785]...</cite> <quote> People who think IQ tests aren't 'real' or accurate for measuring intelligence Are right Just have low IQs Have absolutely no idea what they are talking about Vote View Results People who think IQ tests aren't 'real' or accurate for measuring intelligence - Results (64 votes) Are right 65.63% (42 votes) 42 Just have low IQs 9.38% (6 votes) 6 Have absolutely no idea what they are talking about 25% (16 votes) 16 Show Voting Form I hate science </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Winrawr 09/12/21 10:58:57 PM #3:	my favorite line is how iq test are racists/culturally biased when people from Asia score the highest <cite>Winrawr posted [p:957998307] in People who... [t:79658785]...</cite> <quote>my favorite line is how iq test are racists/culturally biased when people from Asia score the highest </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Kloe_Rinz 09/12/21 10:59:04 PM #4:	What if theres a smart person with a low IQ <cite>Kloe_Rinz posted [p:957998311] in People who... [t:79658785]...</cite> <quote>What if theres a smart person with a low IQ </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Winrawr 09/12/21 10:59:46 PM #5:	Kloe_Rinz posted... What if theres a smart person with a low IQ they probably have high verbal intelligence but poor spatial intelligence <cite>Winrawr posted [p:957998338] in People who... [t:79658785]...</cite> <quote>Kloe_Rinz posted... </cite> <quote>What if theres a smart person with a low IQ</quote>they probably have high verbal intelligence but poor spatial intelligence </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Kloe_Rinz 09/12/21 11:02:48 PM #6:	What about a dumb person with a high iq <cite>Kloe_Rinz posted [p:957998415] in People who... [t:79658785]...</cite> <quote>What about a dumb person with a high iq </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
IMNOTRAGED 09/12/21 11:04:48 PM #7:	I mean, you can google right now "are IQ tests useful" and have several results of actual experts giving nuanced explanations as to why there are reasons to be skeptical of iq test results and whether or not they're useful. But you've decided to be a shithead on this dumb message board, huh --- https://imgur.com/kkm3QaD "Be ruthless with systems; be kind to people." <cite>IMNOTRAGED posted [p:957998463] in People who... [t:79658785]...</cite> <quote>I mean, you can google right now "are IQ tests useful" and have several results of actual experts giving nuanced explanations as to why there are reasons to be skeptical of iq test results and whether or not they're useful. But you've decided to be a shithead on this dumb message board, huh </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Winrawr 09/12/21 11:05:04 PM #8:	Kloe_Rinz posted... What about a dumb person with a high iq when peopel describe another person's intelligence they tend to look for certain features that are not necessarily accurate or reflective of intelligence. a 'dumb' person with a high iq probably has certain disorders that make them appear stupid to others, but is actually very intelligent. a person like this could have receptive language learning disorder, and might ask others to repeat things too often. they might also pretend to hear things out of embarassment and then do the wrong thing at work a person can also appear dumb if they have poor motor skills, social skills, etc. <cite>Winrawr posted [p:957998467] in People who... [t:79658785]...</cite> <quote>Kloe_Rinz posted... </cite> <quote>What about a dumb person with a high iq</quote>when peopel describe another person's intelligence they tend to look for certain features that are not necessarily accurate or reflective of intelligence. a 'dumb' person with a high iq probably has certain disorders that make them appear stupid to others, but is actually very intelligent. a person like this could have receptive language learning disorder, and might ask others to repeat things too often. they might also pretend to hear things out of embarassment and then do the wrong thing at work a person can also appear dumb if they have poor motor skills, social skills, etc. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Winrawr 09/12/21 11:05:55 PM #9:	IMNOTRAGED posted... I mean, you can google right now "are IQ tests useful" and have several results of actual experts giving nuanced explanations as to why there are reasons to be skeptical of iq test results and whether or not they're useful. But you've decided to be a shithead on this dumb message board, huh iq tests are extremely important and accurate scientific tools primarily designed to identify learning disabilities. i don't care about your 'experts' that you found on youtube, thanks lmao <cite>Winrawr posted [p:957998481] in People who... [t:79658785]...</cite> <quote>IMNOTRAGED posted... </cite> <quote>I mean, you can google right now "are IQ tests useful" and have several results of actual experts giving nuanced explanations as to why there are reasons to be skeptical of iq test results and whether or not they're useful. But you've decided to be a shithead on this dumb message board, huh</quote>iq tests are extremely important and accurate scientific tools primarily designed to identify learning disabilities. i don't care about your 'experts' that you found on youtube, thanks lmao </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Xethuminra 09/12/21 11:06:03 PM #10:	Mmhmm <cite>Xethuminra posted [p:957998485] in People who... [t:79658785]...</cite> <quote>Mmhmm </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
YoungMutual 09/12/21 11:10:27 PM #11:	Winrawr posted... iq tests are extremely important and accurate scientific tools primarily designed to identify learning disabilities. i don't care about your 'experts' that you found on youtube, thanks lmao He said "nuanced", IQ tests probably have their uses, but intelligence as a concept is too complex to measure in a number because cognitive ability spans across several kinds of intelligence. --- YoungMutual <cite>YoungMutual posted [p:957998569] in People who... [t:79658785]...</cite> <quote>Winrawr posted... </cite> <quote>iq tests are extremely important and accurate scientific tools primarily designed to identify learning disabilities. i don't care about your 'experts' that you found on youtube, thanks lmao</quote>He said "nuanced", IQ tests probably have their uses, but intelligence as a concept is too complex to measure in a number because cognitive ability spans across several kinds of intelligence. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Winrawr 09/12/21 11:14:23 PM #12:	YoungMutual posted... He said "nuanced", IQ tests probably have their uses, but intelligence as a concept is too complex to measure in a number because cognitive ability spans across several kinds of intelligence. This is just simply not true, and goes against modern medicine and science. The reason why this narrative is thrown around is because of sad truths revealed by IQ tests. That is it, and it's just sad <cite>Winrawr posted [p:957998658] in People who... [t:79658785]...</cite> <quote>YoungMutual posted... </cite> <quote>He said "nuanced", IQ tests probably have their uses, but intelligence as a concept is too complex to measure in a number because cognitive ability spans across several kinds of intelligence.</quote> This is just simply not true, and goes against modern medicine and science. The reason why this narrative is thrown around is because of sad truths revealed by IQ tests. That is it, and it's just sad </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
IMNOTRAGED 09/12/21 11:17:24 PM #13:	Winrawr posted... i don't care about your 'experts' that you found on youtube, thanks lmao They're not "my" experts. I literally just googled the phrase I posted and some of the first results were actual psychologists and whatnot acknowledging the awful historical usage of iq tests, how they're currently misused, etc though they are largely accurate in and of themselves. I think that most people who criticize them are aware of this and you're setting up a strawman to knock down. Hence, you behaving like a shithead. Well, that and the poorly hidden racism --- https://imgur.com/kkm3QaD "Be ruthless with systems; be kind to people." <cite>IMNOTRAGED posted [p:957998752] in People who... [t:79658785]...</cite> <quote>Winrawr posted... </cite> <quote>i don't care about your 'experts' that you found on youtube, thanks lmao</quote> They're not "my" experts. I literally just googled the phrase I posted and some of the first results were actual psychologists and whatnot acknowledging the awful historical usage of iq tests, how they're currently misused, etc though they are largely accurate in and of themselves. I think that most people who criticize them are aware of this and you're setting up a strawman to knock down. Hence, you behaving like a shithead. Well, that and the poorly hidden racism </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Shezarr 09/12/21 11:18:19 PM #14:	Hey, TC is a fake nurse, don't bash his expertise in IQ tests --- The artist formerly known as RebelElite791 <cite>Shezarr posted [p:957998775] in People who... [t:79658785]...</cite> <quote>Hey, TC is a fake nurse, don't bash his expertise in IQ tests </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Winrawr 09/12/21 11:19:24 PM #15:	IMNOTRAGED posted... They're not "my" experts. I literally just googled the phrase I posted and some of the first results were actual psychologists and whatnot acknowledging the awful historical usage of iq tests, how they're currently misused, etc though they are largely accurate in and of themselves. I think that most people who criticize them are aware of this and you're setting up a strawman to knock down. Hence, you behaving like a shithead sorry bro i lose your google searches are more valid than pubmed and the entire profession of clinical psychology <cite>Winrawr posted [p:957998798] in People who... [t:79658785]...</cite> <quote>IMNOTRAGED posted... </cite> <quote>They're not "my" experts. I literally just googled the phrase I posted and some of the first results were actual psychologists and whatnot acknowledging the awful historical usage of iq tests, how they're currently misused, etc though they are largely accurate in and of themselves. I think that most people who criticize them are aware of this and you're setting up a strawman to knock down. Hence, you behaving like a shithead</quote>sorry bro i lose your google searches are more valid than pubmed and the entire profession of clinical psychology </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
LordFarquad1312 09/12/21 11:21:58 PM #16:	While IQ tests are generally considered to measure some forms of intelligence, they may fail to serve as an accurate measure of broader definitions of human intelligence inclusive of creativity and social intelligence. For this reason, psychologist Wayne Weiten argues that their construct validity must be carefully qualified, and not be overstated.According to Weiten, "IQ tests are valid measures of the kind of intelligence necessary to do well in academic work. But if the purpose is to assess intelligence in a broader sense, the validity of IQ tests is questionable." https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intelligence_quotient#Reliability --- El sexo sucio y el planeta limpio. "If you are tired of fear from links... Let Kirby's Nightmare protect you." <cite>LordFarquad1312 posted [p:957998856] in People who... [t:79658785]...</cite> <quote><quote>While IQ tests are generally considered to measure some forms of intelligence, they may fail to serve as an accurate measure of broader definitions of human intelligence inclusive of creativity and social intelligence. For this reason, psychologist Wayne Weiten argues that their construct validity must be carefully qualified, and not be overstated.According to Weiten, "IQ tests are valid measures of the kind of intelligence necessary to do well in academic work. But if the purpose is to assess intelligence in a broader sense, the validity of IQ tests is questionable."</quote>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intelligence_quotient#Reliability </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Zero_Destroyer 09/12/21 11:23:22 PM #17:	I think the best way to put it is that IQ tests aren't very useful for public policy or even individual decisions on careers. The core issue is that they're often pushed as deterministic when you can't be deterministic about something as potentially subjective and open ended as what intelligence is, broadly speaking. --- Enjoy movies and television? Check out my blog! I do reviews and analyses. http://fictionrantreview.wordpress.com/ (The Force Awakens spoiler review up!) <cite>Zero_Destroyer posted [p:957998900] in People who... [t:79658785]...</cite> <quote>I think the best way to put it is that IQ tests aren't very useful for public policy or even individual decisions on careers. The core issue is that they're often pushed as deterministic when you can't be deterministic about something as potentially subjective and open ended as what intelligence is, broadly speaking. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
LordFarquad1312 09/12/21 11:24:45 PM #18:	Physicist Stephen Hawking. When asked his IQ, he replied: "I have no idea. People who boast about their IQ are losers." Dem callouts --- El sexo sucio y el planeta limpio. "If you are tired of fear from links... Let Kirby's Nightmare protect you." <cite>LordFarquad1312 posted [p:957998929] in People who... [t:79658785]...</cite> <quote><quote>Physicist Stephen Hawking. When asked his IQ, he replied: "I have no idea. People who boast about their IQ are losers."</quote>Dem callouts </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Winrawr 09/13/21 12:51:41 AM #19:	LordFarquad1312 posted... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intelligence_quotient#Reliability iq test definitely don't test for everything, yes. but they do reliably track how you will do academically, which is crticial obviously steven hawking wouldnt have been able to do anything he did without a high iq. it just isn't to possible to practice high level physics unless you are exceptionally brilliant obviously <cite>Winrawr posted [p:958000685] in People who... [t:79658785]...</cite> <quote>LordFarquad1312 posted... </cite> <quote>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intelligence_quotient#Reliability</quote>iq test definitely don't test for everything, yes. but they do reliably track how you will do academically, which is crticial obviously steven hawking wouldnt have been able to do anything he did without a high iq. it just isn't to possible to practice high level physics unless you are exceptionally brilliant obviously </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
FL81 09/13/21 2:35:29 AM #20:	Kloe_Rinz posted... What if theres a smart person with a low IQ --- Thanks to Proofpyros for the sig images https://imgur.com/Nv4Pi1v https://imgur.com/N43HJYv <cite>FL81 posted [p:958002188] in People who... [t:79658785]...</cite> <quote>Kloe_Rinz posted... </cite> <quote>What if theres a smart person with a low IQ</quote> </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Stalolin 09/13/21 2:43:00 AM #21:	Winrawr posted... This is just simply not true, and goes against modern medicine and science. What are you basing that on? --- "Our selves are something we create, not discover." <cite>Stalolin posted [p:958002266] in People who... [t:79658785]...</cite> <quote>Winrawr posted... </cite> <quote>This is just simply not true, and goes against modern medicine and science.</quote> What are you basing that on? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
MedeaLysistrata 09/13/21 2:49:47 AM #22:	I wish my IQ was higher --- "Why is ontology so expensive?" - JH [Is this live?][Joyless planet...] <cite>MedeaLysistrata posted [p:958002326] in People who... [t:79658785]...</cite> <quote>I wish my IQ was higher </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
LordFarquad1312 09/13/21 3:00:17 AM #23:	Stalolin posted... What are you basing that on? His ass. --- El sexo sucio y el planeta limpio. "If you are tired of fear from links... Let Kirby's Nightmare protect you." <cite>LordFarquad1312 posted [p:958002462] in People who... [t:79658785]...</cite> <quote>Stalolin posted... </cite> <quote>What are you basing that on?</quote>His ass. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Blue_Dream87 09/13/21 3:53:27 AM #24:	How long til TC starts bringing up The Bell Curve? --- Peace Love Dope <cite>Blue_Dream87 posted [p:958003077] in People who... [t:79658785]...</cite> <quote>How long til TC starts bringing up The Bell Curve? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
teep_ 09/13/21 3:56:19 AM #25:	Tag --- be the best 'cause nothing less will do <cite>teep_ posted [p:958003115] in People who... [t:79658785]...</cite> <quote>Tag</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
BloodMoon7 09/13/21 3:57:35 AM #26:	I have a high IQ. However I also once grabbed a catcus plant with my bare hands. --- My maid will hear about this. <cite>BloodMoon7 posted [p:958003132] in People who... [t:79658785]...</cite> <quote>I have a high IQ. However I also once grabbed a catcus plant with my bare hands. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
UnholyMudcrab 09/13/21 5:46:50 AM #28:	IQ tests can be good indicators of intelligence in one specific way: if you brag about them, it means you aren't intelligent. --- https://imgur.com/VeNBg https://imgur.com/gd5jC8q https://imgur.com/PKIy7 https://imgur.com/3p29JqP <cite>UnholyMudcrab posted [p:958004240] in People who... [t:79658785]...</cite> <quote>IQ tests can be good indicators of intelligence in one specific way: if you brag about them, it means you aren't intelligent.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Ratchetrockon 09/13/21 5:51:16 AM #29:	My bro has much higher iq than me and it really shows. He finishes schoolwork prob 4x faster than me. --- Buy Stax <cite>Ratchetrockon posted [p:958004286] in People who... [t:79658785]...</cite> <quote>My bro has much higher iq than me and it really shows. He finishes schoolwork prob 4x faster than me. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Heliogabalus 09/13/21 5:54:01 AM #30:	IQ tests are flawed as hell. They can be ok as a ballpark idea, but their measurement properties are suspect. They can be gamed, and they measure a very narrow definition of intellectual. Ive had to do more than a few IQ tests as part of the selection process for job applications and always get top 1%, but Im not that clever, Im just good at intelligence tests. --- An anthropophagus on Mars <cite>Heliogabalus posted [p:958004315] in People who... [t:79658785]...</cite> <quote>IQ tests are flawed as hell. They can be ok as a ballpark idea, but their measurement properties are suspect. They can be gamed, and they measure a very narrow definition of intellectual. Ive had to do more than a few IQ tests as part of the selection process for job applications and always get top 1%, but Im not that clever, Im just good at intelligence tests. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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