Current Events > Has CHINA said SORRY yet about the virus?

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SaccharineSmile
09/11/21 7:55:51 PM
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like just let the world know how this virus came about getting sick of this hiding bullshit

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kingdrake2
09/11/21 7:56:47 PM
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they're not sorry.
still completely deny it every chance they get.
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Irony
09/11/21 7:57:57 PM
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They claimed the US made it

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sabrestorm
09/11/21 8:00:39 PM
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Is there any proof china is responsible? I guess not people just want to hate on China I think

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Xethuminra
09/11/21 8:02:46 PM
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Why do we feel the need to turn everything into gospel?
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KamenRiderBlade
09/11/21 8:03:09 PM
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sabrestorm posted...
Is there any proof china is responsible? I guess not people just want to hate on China I think
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WKKxPefQ520
https://theintercept.com/2021/09/06/new-details-emerge-about-coronavirus-research-at-chinese-lab/

EcoHealth Alliance President Peter Daszak got grant money from the US NIH (National Institute of Health) to do research on CoronaVirus research.
One of the grants, titled Understanding the Risk of Bat Coronavirus Emergence, outlines an ambitious effort led by EcoHealth Alliance President Peter Daszak to screen thousands of bat samples for novel coronaviruses. The research also involved screening people who work with live animals. The documents contain several critical details about the research in Wuhan, including the fact that key experimental work with humanized mice was conducted at a biosafety level 3 lab at Wuhan University Center for Animal Experiment and not at the Wuhan Institute of Virology, as was previously assumed. The documents raise additional questions about the theory that the pandemic may have begun in a lab accident, an idea that Daszak has aggressively dismissed.

The bat coronavirus grant provided EcoHealth Alliance with a total of $3.1 million, including $599,000 that the Wuhan Institute of Virology used in part to identify and alter bat coronaviruses likely to infect humans. Even before the pandemic, many scientists were concerned about the potential dangers associated with such experiments. The grant proposal acknowledges some of those dangers: Fieldwork involves the highest risk of exposure to SARS or other CoVs, while working in caves with high bat density overhead and the potential for fecal dust to be inhaled.

Alina Chan, a molecular biologist at the Broad Institute, said the documents show that EcoHealth Alliance has reason to take the lab-leak theory seriously. In this proposal, they actually point out that they know how risky this work is. They keep talking about people potentially getting bitten and they kept records of everyone who got bitten, Chan said. Does EcoHealth have those records? And if not, how can they possibly rule out a research-related accident?

According to Richard Ebright, a molecular biologist at Rutgers University, the documents contain critical information about the research done in Wuhan, including about the creation of novel viruses. The viruses they constructed were tested for their ability to infect mice that were engineered to display human type receptors on their cell, Ebright wrote to The Intercept after reviewing the documents. Ebright also said the documents make it clear that two different types of novel coronaviruses were able to infect humanized mice. While they were working on SARS-related coronavirus, they were carrying out a parallel project at the same time on MERS-related coronavirus, Ebright said, referring to the virus that causes Middle East Respiratory Syndrome.

Asked about the grant materials, Robert Kessler, communications manager at EcoHealth Alliance, said, We applied for grants to conduct research. The relevant agencies deemed that to be important research, and thus funded it. So I dont know that theres a whole lot to say.

The grant was initially awarded for a five-year period from 2014 to 2019. Funding was renewed in 2019 but suspended by the Trump administration in April 2020.

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UnfairRepresent
09/11/21 8:04:06 PM
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No

They denied it until a doctor (a hero) whistleblowed the threat
Then they downplayed it
Then they blamed America for it in their state media

It sucks.

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TheRadiant
09/12/21 3:43:31 PM
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Irony posted...
They claimed the US made it
This

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WeeWeiWiiWie
09/12/21 3:51:24 PM
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KamenRiderBlade posted...
Bunch of bullshit


Shut the fuck up.

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Trumble
09/12/21 3:57:09 PM
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There is no reason to believe it was an intentionally-made bioweapon, nor to believe it was a deliberate leak. Accidental leak is much, much harder to rule out, and is really a "no proof either way" situation.

What's not ambiguous though is that China's attempts to cover it up at first, gave it opportunity to spread so widely, and had they been honest when they first knew about it, we wouldn't be in this situation.

So - whether a lab was involved or not, China are still extremely at fault.

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WeeWeiWiiWie
09/12/21 3:59:06 PM
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Trumble posted...
There is no reason to believe it was an intentionally-made bioweapon, nor to believe it was a deliberate leak. Accidental leak is much, much harder to rule out, and is really a "no proof either way" situation.

What's not ambiguous though is that China's attempts to cover it up at first, gave it opportunity to spread so widely, and had they been honest when they first knew about it, we wouldn't be in this situation.

So - whether a lab was involved or not, China are still extremely at fault.

Keep in mind, on that latter part, that the US did the same thing.

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NOM
09/12/21 4:00:52 PM
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They are the cause of it regardless if it was accidental, intentional, etc. and they have not owned up to it. And even worse, they are trying to blame other nations like the US as the cause.

Cowards who should face punishment. For a government who is trying to eliminate "effeminacy" in their media, they sure are a bunch of pussies themselves.

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Trumble
09/12/21 4:02:31 PM
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WeeWeiWiiWie posted...
Keep in mind, on that latter part, that the US did the same thing.
Not really. Yes, the US did a shit job of handling it domestically, but by the time it was well underway in the US, the virus was already worldwide. By comparison, China could've stopped it before it got out of China.

EDIT: Also, Shablagoo's alt, am I right?

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TheRadiant
09/12/21 4:02:37 PM
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NOM posted...
They are the cause of it regardless if it was accidental, intentional, etc. and they have not owned up to it. And even worse, they are trying to blame other nations like the US as the cause.

Cowards who should face punishment. For a government who is trying to eliminate "effeminacy" in their media, they sure are a bunch of pussies themselves.
They also said they'd "counterattack" if the US' report named them

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KamenRiderBlade
09/12/21 4:02:48 PM
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WeeWeiWiiWie posted...
Shut the fuck up.
You first, we all know you're a CCP Shill.

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WeeWeiWiiWie
09/12/21 4:06:38 PM
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Trumble posted...
Not really. Yes, the US did a shit job of handling it domestically, but by the time it was well underway in the US, the virus was already worldwide. By comparison, China could've stopped it before it got out of China.

We still deliberately underplayed it and delayed response resulting in countless deaths. Trump decided that actually enacting public health measures would be too controversial for his base, decided to enact only measures that implied blame (travel ban) and waiting, hoping that it might peter out. He dealt with a public heath emergency politically, and it killed people.

So yeah, China also acted politically, but it seems strange and one sided to harangue them when the US employed the same strategy.

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Collat
09/12/21 4:09:03 PM
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No. They always deflect.
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WeeWeiWiiWie
09/12/21 4:09:56 PM
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Also, lol @ implying that i'm shab...

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Trumble
09/12/21 4:15:59 PM
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WeeWeiWiiWie posted...
So yeah, China also acted politically, but it seems strange and one sided to harangue them when the US employed the same strategy.

Because the US doing this didn't spark an international pandemic. It just made one that already existed, worse for one country.

Yes, it was bad, but equating the two is like saying that a bar fight is equivalent to murder.

Or to put it another way: The US's actions, resulted in the US's death tally. China's actions, resulted in the entire world's death tally.

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WeeWeiWiiWie
09/12/21 4:17:13 PM
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Trumble posted...
Because the US doing this didn't spark an international pandemic. It just made one that already existed, worse for one country.

Yes, it was bad, but equating the two is like saying that a bar fight is equivalent to murder.

The idea that they could have possibly stopped it before it started is pretty much fantasy.

Also weird to imply that Americans don't travel.

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Trumble
09/12/21 4:17:53 PM
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WeeWeiWiiWie posted...
Also, lol @ implying that i'm shab...
I mean, when an obvious alt pops up that has the exact same "ignore all of China's flaws while blowing everyone else's out of proportion" attitude that Shab has - and you seem to know exactly who he is, confirming at least that you're an alt in general - you shouldn't be surprised that questions arise.

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Trumble
09/12/21 4:18:48 PM
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WeeWeiWiiWie posted...
The idea that they could have possibly stopped it before it started is pretty much fantasy.
The idea that they could've dealt with it as soon as they knew instead of covering it up until whistleblowers revealed the situation, and then not spent the next month feeding false information about it to the UN (such as claiming "it doesn't transmit human-to-human" at the same time they were locking down a province to prevent human-to-human spread), is much more realistic.

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WeeWeiWiiWie
09/12/21 4:19:04 PM
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You can read my signature, I'm certain you can do it.

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Lebronwon
09/12/21 4:19:12 PM
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This was their response in April 2020

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q5BZ09iNdvo

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TheRadiant
09/12/21 4:21:54 PM
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Hey we found Shab's Youtube

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Trumble
09/12/21 4:22:58 PM
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WeeWeiWiiWie posted...
You can read my signature, I'm certain you can do it.

So COVxy is a Shab alt, good to know.

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WeeWeiWiiWie
09/12/21 4:24:16 PM
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This is a weird meltdown.

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Trumble
09/12/21 4:25:11 PM
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WeeWeiWiiWie posted...
This is a weird meltdown.
Pointing out flaws in your claims and identifying your main is a "meltdown" now? I swear, the criteria of what counts as a meltdown gets looser every day. Seems at this point that much like "trolling", all it means anymore is "saying something I don't personally like".

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WeeWeiWiiWie
09/12/21 4:31:19 PM
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Dude, I'm not shab, the dude doesn't even like me lol.

Also, nothing you said contradicts anything I said.

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TrowaBarton7
09/12/21 8:27:21 PM
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Let's take a look at a timeline of the pandemic:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timeline_of_the_COVID-19_pandemic_in_2019

The World Health Organization office in China picked up the media statement from the website of the Wuhan Municipal Health Commission on cases of viral pneumonia.[51] The WHO China office then notified the WHO Western Pacific Regional Office about the notice from the Wuhan government.[51]

The US CDC claimed to have "first learned of a 'cluster of 27 cases of pneumonia'" in Wuhan on this day.[52]

China informed the WHO of a viral pneumonia (not yet identified as covid) in 2019. America was fully aware of it as well, yet did absolutely nothing.

Explain to me how China tried to "hide" the virus?

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nfearurspecimn
09/12/21 8:28:40 PM
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sabrestorm posted...
Is there any proof china is responsible? I guess not people just want to hate on China I think
lol

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RoseLuck2022462
09/12/21 8:29:35 PM
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They never will

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One_Day_Remains
09/12/21 8:33:43 PM
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Trowabarton7 is a tankie btw
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TrowaBarton7
09/12/21 8:37:13 PM
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One_Day_Remains is a right wing conservative conspiracy theorist btw

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One_Day_Remains
09/12/21 8:38:30 PM
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TrowaBarton7 posted...
One_Day_Remains is a right wing conservative conspiracy theorist btw


You've been suspended for your CCP shilling and genocide denying garbage multiple times meanwhile you'll find no evidence of me being that, so lol
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Demon1050
09/12/21 8:40:25 PM
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hell no.

They're only sorry it doesn't have a 35% fatality rate, which supposedly they were shooting for to wage bio-warfare. 1% is still a tremendous death rate, as that would be 10,000 people per million...but it's not enough for the evil psychopaths engineering these damn things.

put all the bastards involved in jail with no chance of getting out.
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