Current Events > It's sad that America sucks but it's still the best country

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Exactly they clearly missing my point even though I'm Erica had his problems there's a reason why everyone still wants to come here nobody is really f****** with those other countries outside of certain circumstances but overall the US is still with the most desired place to travel to and live and prosper in the world from most races

idk about best country but its among the best country. Some people here are really spoiled. Coming from immigrant parents, Im lucky to be here and not many other places in the world. Theyre issues here but everywhere has their problems.

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Not even top 10.

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It's not tho

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Njolk posted...

I see you've never been to Canada or western Europe

They make the US look like an abandoned theme park

I honestly find this post hilarious, because Canada genuinely looks like an abandoned theme park with the presence of ghost towns owned by the Chinese

The country despite its faults is where everyone wants to live in the hopes of going above and beyond in life.

Living a good life with universal Healthcare, peaking at maybe middle class and then dying is nice to some. But most want a hell of alot more then then that in life.


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3PiesAndAFork posted...

So America's great if you're a rich, cis white male. Everyone else can go get fucked though.

I'm a hispanic nurse and am pretty happy with my life. this narrative is inaccurate and pathetic

Eh I can't imagine living in a country without mandatory paid leave for full time jobs, no universal health care and having to worry about my kid being a victim of a mass shooting.

All countries have their problems. Overall if you're in a first world country and you aren't born into poverty you're most likely going to have a pretty good life.

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jumi posted...

Not even top 10.

... Name 10 country is better than the US

Erectum posted...

... Name 10 country is better than the US

Norway
Sweden
Iceland
Finland
Canada
Denmark
Switzerland
The Netherlands
France
Germany

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they're the best at sucking i guess...

>_>

Erectum posted...

... Name 10 country is better than the US

TheChariot posted...

Not even Top 10. In no specific order:

Norway. Finland. Japan. South Korea. New Zealand. Australia. Canada. Germany. Ireland. France.

And I purposely didn't include a few since I only listed 10. Like Sweden since I already had two other Nordic countries there. And Indonesia since I had New Zealand. And then there are the ones I straight up forgot about like Switzerland, Denmark, and The Netherlands.

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If all you guys can make are a bunch of quote countries that are smaller than an average u.s. State then what does that tell you

Erectum posted...

If all you guys can make are a bunch of quote countries that are smaller than an average u.s. State then what does that tell you

That the US is too goddamn big, but nobody in the government wants to lose influence and tax money so nobody will petition to divide this country?

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Also, check the population of the listed countries. They are huge for such small land.

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Erectum posted...

If all you guys can make are a bunch of quote countries that are smaller than an average u.s. State then what does that tell you

It tells me that you like moving the goalposts.

GTFO of here.

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Its the best country according to who.?

Look at Chinas bullet trains and spectacular airports then keep bragging

You really have to look at quality of life. Can you really consider yourself the best country when a significant number of the country doesn't have access to clean drinking water (from a tap), and where the right to healthcare is gatekept behind privileged white collar employment requiring an education in the tens of thousands at least, indebting yourself for a vast sum of money when your balls have barely dropped?

Every country has their problem, but the above is uniquely American (talking strictly about first world countries).

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3PiesAndAFork posted...

You really have to look at quality of life. Can you really consider yourself the best country when a significant number of the country doesn't have access to clean drinking water (from a tap), and where the right to healthcare is gatekept behind privileged white collar employment requiring an education in the tens of thousands at least, indebting yourself for a vast sum of money when your balls have barely dropped?

Every country has their problem, but the above is uniquely American (talking strictly about first world countries).

As far as I'm concerned, if you don't have nationwide healthcare, you're not a First-world country.

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I find this to be a ridiculous statement Tc

Which part of the US are you referring to? I'm sure there's incredible places to live in the US if you're super rich, just like there's incredible places to live in the middle east or Africa or anywhere (even Somalia has luxurious resorts).

But then there's the fact that so much of the US is basically bumfuck nothing and in disrepair, compounded by extreme existential danger (everyone has guns and a strong wind blows down buildings).

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It don't suck for me, it likely doesn't suck for y'all either.


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I really wonder just how many Americans know nothing of what life is like in other countries lol

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Erectum posted...

Canada is like smaller than Texas.

So USA is the superior country because Canada is smaller than Texas.

Oh i just have to hear this argument. Enlighten me.

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Erectum posted...

Canada is like smaller than Texas.

This is untrue in regards to population and ridiculously, hilariously untrue in regards to geography.

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Rhylos posted...

America's great

It's the politicians that're bad

But if you stop watching the news and caring so much about politics and things that just don't affect you, america's great

"Stop caring about the people directly responsible for every single facet of society you participate in"

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TheChariot posted...

Not even Top 10. In no specific order:

Norway. Finland. Japan. South Korea. New Zealand. Australia. Canada. Germany. Ireland. France.

Japan openly discriminates women. World Economic Forums global degree of gender equality put Japan at 120 out of 150 countries.

http://www3.weforum.org/docs/WEF_GGGR_2021.pdf

Page 10.

McgeesAlice808 posted...

And the US joined forces with Sharia Law countries like Saudi Arabia and Uganda to declare women have no rights to abortion.
https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/world/us-saudi-arabia-and-uganda-join-forces-to-declare-women-have-no-intrinsic-right-to-abortion/ar-BB1akboo

Anyway, Japan has always ranked globally better than the US in overall and quality of life.
https://www.usnews.com/news/best-countries/overall-rankings
https://www.usnews.com/news/best-countries/quality-of-life-rankings

McgeesAlice808 posted...

And the US joined forces with Sharia Law countries like Saudi Arabia and Uganda to declare women have no rights to abortion.
https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/world/us-saudi-arabia-and-uganda-join-forces-to-declare-women-have-no-intrinsic-right-to-abortion/ar-BB1akboo

Anyway, Japan has always ranked globally better than the US in overall and quality of life.
https://www.usnews.com/news/best-countries/overall-rankings
https://www.usnews.com/news/best-countries/quality-of-life-rankings

The US doesn't score as high in quality of life because it has a larger rural population, and higher immigration, and higher height averages. That's it. It is weird and strange to even study the US as a whole when it is such a diverse a d large country. Sure compare new York, Cali etc. To japan and Britain.

I don't understand why this has to be explained

McgeesAlice808 posted...

And those larger rural parts (like almost the entire bible belt) are part of it. You think the worst parts of the other countries aren't also included? Even states like New York and Cali have higher crime rates, obesity rates, homeless rates, and less education on average than most of the developed countries Chariot mentioned.

Yes but what are the crime rates among the dominant racial group compared to Britain. Specifically, whites compare to whites in urban areas. You can't just compare two entirely diff countries

The crime rate for whites is 8 per 10000 in sf vs 22 in Japan and 47 in London

Things are far more complex

I can say for sure that Americas work culture is absolutely horrible. We work way too much.

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McgeesAlice808 posted...

Ah, didn't expect you just going mask off racist that fast.

Has nothing to do with racism in my part. Has to do the social dominance of one race over others, pushing those inviduals to lesser classes of society creating tension and social dissonance.

Yeah as an American I think the a united States is the best country but something tells me if I lived in a third world country with all the modern necessities I would think that was the best country too.

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McgeesAlice808 posted...

And the US joined forces with Sharia Law countries like Saudi Arabia and Uganda to declare women have no rights to abortion.
https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/world/us-saudi-arabia-and-uganda-join-forces-to-declare-women-have-no-intrinsic-right-to-abortion/ar-BB1akboo

Anyway, Japan has always ranked globally better than the US in overall and quality of life.
https://www.usnews.com/news/best-countries/overall-rankings
https://www.usnews.com/news/best-countries/quality-of-life-rankings

That was under under Trumps administration. Biden withdrew from that.

https://www.whitehouse.gov/briefing-room/presidential-actions/2021/01/28/memorandum-on-protecting-womens-health-at-home-and-abroad/

Also Japan being a good country to live in is greatly exaggerated. This is the same country where you are expected to work overtime without getting paid for it. This is one of the reasons why Japans population is shrinking each year. You are also frowned upon from even taking vacations.

I don't disagree that there are plenty of other countries that are great to live in I'm not saying that other ones are trash but objectively when you look at it tell me the reason why everyone comes to America for a business or popularity reasons the most expensive products are manufactured and created in America all the major drivers in global economics are Center in America for the most part it's obvious

Erectum posted...

I don't disagree that there are plenty of other countries that are great to live in I'm not saying that other ones are trash but objectively when you look at it tell me the reason why everyone comes to America for a business or popularity reasons the most expensive products are manufactured and created in America all the major drivers in global economics are Center in America for the most part it's obvious

That doesn't make it great for the average person, just the rich and big businesses.

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CHM_Punk posted...

The United States is awesome, the people that make hating it their entire personality are a fringe minority that just so happen to unanimously be progressives that dedicate their lives to soapboaxing 24/7 on social media and reading + sharing misleading (or straight up false) memes that parade radicalist propaganda.

Right? Its pure privilege. Its easy to hate on America.


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Funkydog posted...

Erectum posted...

I don't disagree that there are plenty of other countries that are great to live in I'm not saying that other ones are trash but objectively when you look at it tell me the reason why everyone comes to America for a business or popularity reasons the most expensive products are manufactured and created in America all the major drivers in global economics are Center in America for the most part it's obvious

That doesn't make it great for the average person, just the rich and big businesses.

no that means it's great for everybody why do you think everybody I migrates here to have a better life

I lived in the USA for 10 years and now I live in Germany and I would never move back.
You literally have 80 million Trump supporters, which automatically disqualifies you from being the "best country in the world".

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ALIEN_WORK2HOP posted...

I lived in the USA for 10 years and now I live in Germany and I would never move back.
You literally have 80 million Trump supporters, which automatically disqualifies you from being the "best country in the world".

bro you're living in f****** Germany...

Also living in 99% of these countries is trash unless you're white

Erectum posted...

no that means it's great for everybody why do you think everybody I migrates here to have a better life

When you are a country that doesn't have basic worker rights, basic minimum wage, access to water for all and health care for all then I am not sure how you can claim to be when so many poorer countries do and are still well off.

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Funkydog posted...

Erectum posted...

no that means it's great for everybody why do you think everybody I migrates here to have a better life

When you are a country that doesn't have basic worker rights, basic minimum wage, access to water for all and health care for all then I am not sure how you can claim to be when so many poorer countries do and are still well off.

I see you're avoiding literally all of my questions you can point out as many flaws as you have with the country and some of them all rightful but facts are facts

Erectum posted...

I see you're avoiding literally all of my questions you can point out as many flaws as you have with the country and some of them all rightful but facts are facts

You haven't asked questions, but made up facts and tried to frame them in a way I have to prove what you're saying.

So I'm gonna go with "K" as my answer from now on.

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McgeesAlice808 posted...

That in itself is massive failing of the US. In any case, the fact that you have to cherrypick that hard into separating race being the only way you can twist it into your favour says a lot. And the other factors still apply.

https://www.weforum.org/agenda/2018/01/the-countries-where-people-work-the-longest-hours/
Lower than the OECD average (which includes the US)
Also, of course, they have mandatory maternal and paid leave like pretty much every other industrial country besides the US. Their population is indeed shrinking but given that they're the 2nd most populated developed country in the world on a small island I don't think that's as bad as it sounds. Their economy might take a hit but they have the 3rd highest GDP.
In any case, Japan does fail to measure to the top European countries but it's clearly better than the US which is shown by the global rankings. You aren't going to get into mass shootings or mugged. You aren't going to get into debt from healthcare. You aren't going to be gunned down by cops who then get paid vacation. You aren't going to get assaulted by hate groups. There aren't thousands of people dying per day due to politicians and officials buying into conspiracy theories. You don't have a country where the majority of people worship the outdated ideals of regressive religions.

It is a failing of any country with a diverse population. So far it is unsolvable issue, likely becuase it is deeply rooted in human evolutionary behavior (fucking people who look like yourself, thus keeping wealth and higher social status to one race)

kage_53 posted...

Japan openly discriminates women. World Economic Forums global degree of gender equality put Japan at 120 out of 150 countries.

http://www3.weforum.org/docs/WEF_GGGR_2021.pdf

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What do you know, so does America!

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