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WingsOfGood
09/09/21 12:25:59 PM
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I can forgive this after reading a leaked plot of the movie.

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The movie is set in a rebooted matrix where Neo is Keanu Reeves back filming the seconds Matrix. In the trailer they have a clip of the first matrix. So Neo as Keanu slowly begins to suspect he is actually inside the matrix as he films the second movie.

This better be a real plot cause it sounds way better than what the trailer looked like at base ESPECIALLY SINCE NO LAWRENCE FISHBURNE!!
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sLaCkEr408___RJ
09/09/21 1:02:45 PM
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You spoiled the trailer in the topic title
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WingsOfGood
09/09/21 1:03:22 PM
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sLaCkEr408___RJ posted...
You spoiled the trailer in the topic title

it was already known he was not in the movie before today
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sLaCkEr408___RJ
09/09/21 1:05:22 PM
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For the record, I didn't know until seeing your topic title
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WingsOfGood
09/09/21 1:06:31 PM
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sLaCkEr408___RJ posted...
For the record, I didn't know until seeing your topic title

even so, something that is public knowledge is not a spoiler
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sLaCkEr408___RJ
09/09/21 1:07:34 PM
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That's arguable. I avoid trailers and even casting details for my anticipated films. Things like that lead to spoilers. I'm just saying please be more considerate in the future.
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PaulieWalnuts
09/09/21 1:08:11 PM
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WingsOfGood
09/09/21 1:09:40 PM
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It is not arguable.

This is like them saying The Rock is cast as x superhero in some movie and you get upset wanting to go into the movie completely blind.
Sorry bud, that is not how it works.

Why does it matter anyways that you know Lawrence Fishburne is not in the movie? What does that spoil exactly?
Cause it does not actually say whether or not Morpheus is in the movie. It just means the og actor is not playing them if they are.

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iPhone_7
09/09/21 1:10:20 PM
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That would be so stupid and I want it to be true.

Also why arent they calling it The Matrix: Reboot? Its the most fitting out of all the movie franchises out there except maybe Tron.

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Jeff AKA Snoopy
09/09/21 1:12:02 PM
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You're really jumping through logic hoops when you could have made your topic title say "Matrix Revolution won't have _______ but I can forgive it after (SPOILERS)"

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WingsOfGood
09/09/21 1:12:04 PM
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iPhone_7 posted...
That would be so stupid and I want it to be true.

It would be better than any normal plot.
Would also mean there could be John Wick cameos.
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WingsOfGood
09/09/21 1:13:07 PM
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Jeff AKA Snoopy posted...
You're really jumping through logic hoops when you could have made your topic title say "Matrix Revolution won't have _______ but I can forgive it after (SPOILERS)"

Won't have what?

The actor is not the character.
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Error1355
09/09/21 1:36:58 PM
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iPhone_7 posted...
That would be so stupid and I want it to be true.
That's kinda how I feel about this topic lmao

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WingsOfGood
09/09/21 1:38:33 PM
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Error1355 posted...
That's kinda how I feel about this topic lmao

? but my topic is true as in it is a topic that exists on gamefaqs.gamespot.com
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sabrestorm
09/09/21 1:39:05 PM
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I thought i saw ruby rose in the trailer, did i? I hope so

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Punished_Joseph
09/09/21 1:42:00 PM
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Its obviously a fake out remake where Neo realizes he's in a recursive loop like the Architect already implied/outright stated
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Punished_Joseph
09/09/21 1:42:26 PM
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Idk why theyre even making this shit, its derivative bunk
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WingsOfGood
09/09/21 1:43:23 PM
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clunker, tag spoilers

but yes that is the gist of the "leak"
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Teh_Dr_Phil
09/09/21 1:45:05 PM
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Sounds more dumb than any standard plot, tbqh

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Nestor_Cortes
09/09/21 1:46:55 PM
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So they're pulling a Wes Craven's New Nightmare?
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s0nicfan
09/09/21 1:50:36 PM
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Someone suggested it in another topic, but we know the original trilogy Neo was the 6th Neo, so its' entirely possible this whole movie is a prequel from one of the prior loops, which is why everyone is alive and also resolves the problem of "where do you go from here?"

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Nestor_Cortes
09/09/21 1:51:59 PM
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s0nicfan posted...
Someone suggested it in another topic, but we know the original trilogy Neo was the 6th Neo, so its' entirely possible this whole movie is a prequel from one of the prior loops, which is why everyone is alive and also resolves the problem of "where do you go from here?"


But then what's the point? We know how it's going to play out. It's not even going to have the good ending.
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Error1355
09/09/21 1:53:32 PM
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s0nicfan posted...
Someone suggested it in another topic, but we know the original trilogy Neo was the 6th Neo, so its' entirely possible this whole movie is a prequel from one of the prior loops, which is why everyone is alive and also resolves the problem of "where do you go from here?"
When asked by The One Show hosts if The Matrix 4 would be a prequel and show events from before the original 1999 movie, Reeves only provided this tease: No, no. No going in the past. Rumors have circulated for months that Matrix 4 cast member Yahya Abdul-Mateen II is starring as a younger version of Morpheus, leading to speculation the plot will travel into the past. Reeves answer would appear to shut those theories down, although a younger Morpheus could certainly pop up in the present or the future given the reality-bending nature of The Matrix.

https://www.indiewire.com/2020/09/keanu-reeves-matrix-4-love-story-not-set-past-1234587062/

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Punished_Joseph
09/09/21 1:53:42 PM
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Its not a prequel, that's dumb. Its a sequel
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s0nicfan
09/09/21 1:55:08 PM
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Nestor_Cortes posted...
But then what's the point? We know how it's going to play out. It's not even going to have the good ending.

The trailer looks like it's more social commentary using the Matrix as a vehicle than actually advancing the story. The "point" is going to be something like "coming to terms with change" or "learning who you really are" as a trans allegory, which we know the Wachowskis wanted in the original movie but didn't have the clout to make happen.

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Punished_Joseph
09/09/21 1:58:27 PM
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I think youre reading too much into it. Its just a shitty derivative cash grab because they're creatively bankrupt
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Punished_Joseph
09/09/21 1:59:23 PM
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Like, just because theyre trans doesn't mean every story they tell is an allegory for that and idk who started forcing that narrative but its dumb
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s0nicfan
09/09/21 1:59:40 PM
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Punished_Joseph posted...
I think youre reading too much into it. Its just a shitty derivative cash grab because they're creatively bankrupt

I can't see Keanu Reeves signing up for the sequel if that's the case. He's busy enough as it is and doesn't seem like the kind of person to buy into a cash grab movie if he doesn't believe in it.

Punished_Joseph posted...
Like, just because theyre trans doesn't mean every story they tell is an allegory for that and idk who started forcing that narrative but its dumb

Not every story, but they've explicitly confirmed that the original movie had more trans elements that were removed due to studio concerns. Switch was literally meant to be trans. Revisiting an older franchise and explicitly putting those elements back in isn't the same as "hurr they're trans so everything they do is trans".

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Punished_Joseph
09/09/21 2:06:46 PM
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s0nicfan posted...
I can't see Keanu Reeves signing up for the sequel if that's the case. He's busy enough as it is and doesn't seem like the kind of person to buy into a cash grab movie if he doesn't believe in it.

Not every story, but they've explicitly confirmed that the original movie had more trans elements that were removed due to studio concerns. Switch was literally meant to be trans. Revisiting an older franchise and explicitly putting those elements back in isn't the same as "hurr they're trans so everything they do is trans".

So one char doesn't mean the whole movie was a trans allegory or anything, they were just being inclusive. People trying to force the narrative its a trans or "woke" story are being silly

Its just going to be a bad movie by people who happen to be trans
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s0nicfan
09/09/21 2:08:07 PM
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Punished_Joseph posted...
So one char doesn't mean the whole movie was a trans allegory or anything, they were just being inclusive. People trying to force the narrative its a trans or "woke" story are being silly

Its just going to be a bad movie by people who happen to be trans

https://www.bbc.com/news/newsbeat-53692435
The Matrix films are about being transgender, the trilogy's co-director says.

"That was the original intention but the world wasn't quite ready," says Lilly Wachowski, who came out as trans along with her sister Lana after the films came out.

Fans have speculated about potential meanings behind the iconic films and Lilly confirmed the theory to Netflix.

"I'm glad that it has gotten out," she said.

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SSJPurple
09/09/21 2:09:52 PM
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Nestor_Cortes posted...
So they're pulling a Wes Craven's New Nightmare?

Sounds like it.

RIP Wes Craven

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Punished_Joseph
09/09/21 2:10:35 PM
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Nah. The work speaks for itself and there's nothing there touching on or elucidating the pain of dysphoria or anything having to do with being trans. JK Rowling esque post production bullshit.

If it isnt present in the original work, it doesnt count. There's no trans narrative in the Matrix. Its just a weak Plato's Cave allegory with kung fu element
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WingsOfGood
09/09/21 3:34:31 PM
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Wtf now we on j.k. rowling.

This thread going places.
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Shablagoo
09/10/21 12:55:39 AM
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Fits with what people have been saying about the film, that its apparently very meta.

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TheMikh
09/10/21 12:58:01 AM
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reminds me of the sequel to a certain canadian supernatual horror film

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ApherosyLove
09/10/21 12:59:55 AM
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WingsOfGood posted...
It is not arguable.
This is the dumbest fucking post I have ever read on this website.

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dave_is_slick
09/10/21 1:12:21 AM
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sLaCkEr408___RJ posted...
That's arguable.
Nope. Public knowledge isn't a spoiler. Hell when has spoilers been anything other than plot relevant?

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WingsOfGood
09/10/21 10:05:02 AM
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ApherosyLove posted...
This is the dumbest fucking post I have ever read on this website.

You mean yours?

dave_is_slick posted...
Nope. Public knowledge isn't a spoiler. Hell when has spoilers been anything other than plot relevant?

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Veggeta_MAX
09/10/21 10:06:40 AM
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I have no idea what you mean, TC. Please re-explain it.

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WingsOfGood
09/10/21 10:09:04 AM
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Veggeta_MAX posted...
I have no idea what you mean, TC. Please re-explain it.

Fake vegy, you are one of the sharpest guys on dis websight.
Which part do you want explained?
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Veggeta_MAX
09/10/21 10:16:07 AM
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He's in a movie but realizes he's recording a second movie?

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WingsOfGood
09/10/21 10:22:48 AM
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Veggeta_MAX posted...
He's in a movie but realizes he's recording a second movie?

Neo is back in the Matrix who reset it back to 1999 and have him think he is Keanu Reeves filming a sequel to a movie called the Matrix which is about living in a computer.
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Veggeta_MAX
09/10/21 10:34:12 AM
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Yeah that makes no god damn sense to me which is something the Matrix is about.

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WingsOfGood
09/10/21 10:42:23 AM
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Veggeta_MAX posted...
Yeah that makes no god damn sense to me which is something the Matrix is about.

What part makes no sense?
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