Current Events > Why do the mods and admin allow COVID misinformation here?

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Seriously, what the fuck is going on?

you can't say the name of porn sites, but you can say the vaccine gives kids magnetic powers so dont get it, or just get covid to prevent covid, and its a-okay

fucking hell

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I think part of it may be that it allows us to know who the trolls are

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^ I've seen plenty of users say the vaccines kill and increase the risk of covid

Mods don't care

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Thats gamefaqs for ya

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That topic was locked. Not deleted and 0 punishment for its creator even with a mod posting in the topic.

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If you're going to CE for medical advice you deserve to be misinformed

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They usually don't. Report it, explain why it's wrong if need be. I've seen people suspended for spreading misinformation before.

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Heartomaton posted...

But not all scientists agree on everything

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It's important to remember that our mods are just maladjusted dweebs like the rest of us. If a random poster buys into the misinformation, there a good chance one or more mods are also morons. It's not like they have impeccable bs detectors.
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BilalPowell posted...

But not all scientists agree on everything

Hence, the first six words on that picture

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Hornezz posted...

Hence, the first six words on that picture

But if you disagree with one scientist that means you agree with another scientist

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BilalPowell posted...

But if you disagree with one scientist that means you agree with another scientist

No it doesn't.

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Scientist 1: Avocados are fruits
Scientist 2: Avocados are vegetables

Does this mean if I think either one of these things I'm wrong no matter what?

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BilalPowell posted...

Scientist 1: Avocados are fruits
Scientist 2: Avocados are vegetables

Does this mean if I think either one of these things I'm wrong no matter what?

Not every possible opinion is represented among the scientific world. At least not the part that can be taken seriously.

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They allow anti-vax propaganda, but they dont allow bare butts.

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Was the spirit of that locked topic to hint at people to not get vaccinated? Pretend I know nothing about the TC or their history (I dont). I took it as reassuring that natural antibodies are effective if you happen to have already been infected. Obviously a vaccine on top of that is the way to go. Extra obvious to get a vaccine instead of purposeful infection not sure why some were making that mental leap (there are deleted messages there so maybe Im missing something).

Covid misinformation does get modded tho

It just doesn't get modded harshly enough
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The admins here are far right wingers.

au_gold posted...

They allow anti-vax propaganda, but they dont allow bare butts.

Thanks to CE's lack of self control and dumbass sense of humor in spamming a pic over and over.

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*looks at the topic this topic is talking about*

*sees users moderated within it*

...I guess the TC is wrong?

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Mr Hangman posted...

This is really unscientific. "Being a scientist" is not what makes something true or false. It's about observation and deductive reasoning. People out here like this thinking they're defending science by turning it into an orthodoxy. That doesn't help.

You don't have the training necessary to be able to interpret and critically examine scientific articles.

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Southernfatman posted...

Thanks to CE's lack of self control and dumbass sense of humor in spamming a pic over and over.

Even then, that pic should be allowed. As should nips.

God didnt create us with clothes. What gives mods authority over God?

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Why does any website? Money. Engagement, clicks, views, ad revenue.

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Mr Hangman posted...

You don't know what training I do or don't have.

Science takes arguments on their merits, not on the credentials of who makes them. Many of histories biggest scientific discoveries have come from people not regarded as scientists by their peers precisely because they challenged the consensus. If you are disagreeing with the majority of scientists, you're probably wrong, but not always, and not because you haven't been ordained a scientist through whatever system of credentials you pick.

And it's a scientific observation of human psychology that this "science doesn't care about your feelings" sort of science as identity crap inhibits rational thinking on the part of the person saying that and the people they are saying it to.

Why do you think scientific training is so protracted? What do you think people do for all that time?

What you should do, as a layperson, is turn to the expert consensus.

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Can the clowns like BP and Hangman get banned already for trying to peddle covid misinformation and doubt around vaccines and masks.

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Scientists are often wrong. Not because they suck and you could do better, but because inductive inference is hard (like literally computationally hard, intractable), and evidence evolves over time.

You should trust experts, and continue listening as things evolve.

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Mr Hangman posted...

What's your reaction to situations where the expert consensus is clearly, dangerously wrong?


I'd like to agree with you, but with this kind of track record, how can you condemn people who are skeptical of experts?

Without going into the whole droplets vs aerosols discussion: the people in those tweets aren't laypersons but scientists themselves and therefore this isn't exactly a good example for what's the discussed before.

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Mr Hangman posted...

Who decides who the experts are though? A layperson might say I like these scientists more than those scientists. And history isn't being kind to the largest and best known institutions right now.

Except for the kookiest of kook ideas, most dissenting opinions around COVID have at least some credentialed person that you could point to as making a sensible argument for it, even if they're wrong. But sometimes those dissenting experts aren't wrong.

When you have 10000 scientists saying one thing, and 1 scientist saying another, might be easy enough to reason what voice to listen to.

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Btw, i want to clarify something. Science is largely not driven by "lone geniuses" but by a slow accumulation of evidence from many many people. To the extent to which it ever was, that era of science ended around the time when we developed widely accessible indoor plumbing. Entirely an artifact of science not existing as an institution, and being driven by children of rich people who had time to fiddle around while the rest of humanity starved while mining coal or whatever.

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Paging citizen scientist @Mr_Hangman

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Eh I think it's just whoever takes action on it as some mods clearly don't know shit. That guy joe gets modded all the time for it

For real though why do people think it's an obligation of gamefaqs moderators to decide what's fake news and get rid of it? Not like this is webmd.

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Mr Hangman posted...

Not sure what else you want me to respond to. The problem of deciding who the true experts are is as old as Plato's Republic. I'm also frustrated by the spread of misinformation and the poor decisions many people are making around COVID. But I don't think solving that problem is nearly so easy as you want it to be. No expert is infallible, identifying misinformation is hard, and getting people the right information is more difficult work than just deleting wrong information. One place to start is to approach the discussion with some hubris, with the knowledge that mistakes have been made and that there was more going on behind changes in messaging than simply changes in the best available data.

"Listen to consensus"

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I've seen posts being modded, even ones which were telling the truth. Apparently links to news articles proving things (not vaccine misinformation) but what other countries have chosen to do have been taken down.

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BilalPowell posted...

For real though why do people think it's an obligation of gamefaqs moderators to decide what's fake news and get rid of it? Not like this is webmd.

Because it's actively harmful and they have a responsibility to reduce harm.

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How's it harmful? Nobody who's wondering about whether to take a vaccine is going to gamefaqs to find out about them.

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fr_e_shavoca_do posted...

posting "false information as fact" is trolling technically. you can't even post obvious satire articles without getting hit

A lot of information is originally assumed false, but later proven true. Do those posts get unmodded?

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BilalPowell posted...

How's it harmful? Nobody who's wondering about whether to take a vaccine is going to gamefaqs to find out about them.

Just like nobody would take anything anyone says on 4/8/16chan seriously. But then they do!

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