Current Events > The story of Flight 447's crash is just insane

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Masao 08/26/21 11:03:54 AM #1:	One of the co-pilots was just pulling back at the stick the whole time, thus sending the plane into a stall. No one figured out what was happening. Literally seconds before the actual crash, he said something like "I don't get it! I've been pulling the stick back all this time!" And the captain just goes bonkers because he finally understood what was going on, but by then it was too late Lots of stuff on youtube about this if you want to see the story: https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=flight+447 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Air_France_Flight_447 --- http://masaohf.atspace.com/ http://www.youtube.com/masaoHF <cite>Masao posted [p:957454571] in The story ... [t:79632373]...</cite> <quote>One of the co-pilots was just pulling back at the stick the whole time, thus sending the plane into a stall. No one figured out what was happening. Literally seconds before the actual crash, he said something like "I don't get it! I've been pulling the stick back all this time!" And the captain just goes bonkers because he finally understood what was going on, but by then it was too late Lots of stuff on youtube about this if you want to see the story: https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=flight+447 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Air_France_Flight_447 </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Puglia77 08/26/21 11:19:10 AM #2:	Yeah earlier this year I was in the mood for watching tons of flight crash documentaries and this was featured in Seconds from Disaster. IIRC they were trained to pull back on the stick so they had to update training protocol after this? I want to watch more crash documentaries but I think I've watched them all. --- Proud Arceus of C.E.A.L. 3DS: 3926 5179 1229 IGN: ICanSnake (AS, Moon, UM, SW) \| Jon (X) Event List: http://bit.ly/2mVcn2Z Shiny List: http://bit.ly/2wdbxU7 <cite>Puglia77 posted [p:957454992] in The story ... [t:79632373]...</cite> <quote>Yeah earlier this year I was in the mood for watching tons of flight crash documentaries and this was featured in Seconds from Disaster. IIRC they were trained to pull back on the stick so they had to update training protocol after this? I want to watch more crash documentaries but I think I've watched them all.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
kelemvor 08/26/21 11:23:05 AM #3:	At work, don't have time to watch, but tagging for later. I'm a student pilot, and "how not to stall" is like lesson #1 on your first day in the air. You have to have 1500 hours of logged time before you'll get a job at a major airline. Also, in an emergency the Pilot in Command should automatically take over control from the co-pilot. <cite>kelemvor posted [p:957455089] in The story ... [t:79632373]...</cite> <quote>At work, don't have time to watch, but tagging for later. I'm a student pilot, and "how not to stall" is like lesson #1 on your first day in the air. You have to have 1500 hours of logged time before you'll get a job at a major airline. Also, in an emergency the Pilot in Command should automatically take over control from the co-pilot. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
MisterPengy 08/26/21 11:23:39 AM #4:	How can an actual pilot be that dumb?! Did they not even play Microsoft Flight Simulator? Every one knows you'll crash if all you do is hold the stick back...It's the best part of the game. --- Bosses are immune to the eat command so it won't be possible to end the final boss fight of the game by eating it. -VeghEsther <cite>MisterPengy posted [p:957455104] in The story ... [t:79632373]...</cite> <quote>How can an actual pilot be that dumb?! Did they not even play Microsoft Flight Simulator? Every one knows you'll crash if all you do is hold the stick back...It's the best part of the game. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Solution_45 08/26/21 11:26:11 AM #5:	so many lives lost.. --- Biological human males can't get pregnant. <cite>Solution_45 posted [p:957455173] in The story ... [t:79632373]...</cite> <quote>so many lives lost.. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
eston 08/26/21 11:32:23 AM #6:	The aircraft's stall warning briefly sounded twice due to the angle-of-attack tolerance being exceeded, and the aircraft's indicated airspeed dropped sharply from 274 knots (507 km/h; 315 mph) to 52 knots (96 km/h; 60 mph). The aircraft's angle of attack increased, and subsequently began to climb above its cruising altitude of 35,000 ft (FL350). During this ascent, the aircraft attained vertical speeds well in excess of the typical rate of climb for the Airbus A330, which usually ascend at rates no greater than 2000 feet per minute (10 m/s). The aircraft experienced a peak vertical speed close to 7,000 feet per minute (36 m/s; 130 km/h), which occurred as Bonin brought the rolling movements under control. You know, if I'd read this article a couple of months ago I'm not sure this would have all made sense to me, but having played Flight Simulator a lot over the past few weeks those are holy shit numbers --- http://i73.photobucket.com/albums/i215/estonc/grizzly_bear_chairs_2.jpg https://imgur.com/8kjZU <cite>eston posted [p:957455337] in The story ... [t:79632373]...</cite> <quote><quote>The aircraft's stall warning briefly sounded twice due to the angle-of-attack tolerance being exceeded, and the aircraft's indicated airspeed dropped sharply from 274 knots (507 km/h; 315 mph) to 52 knots (96 km/h; 60 mph). The aircraft's angle of attack increased, and subsequently began to climb above its cruising altitude of 35,000 ft (FL350). During this ascent, the aircraft attained vertical speeds well in excess of the typical rate of climb for the Airbus A330, which usually ascend at rates no greater than 2000 feet per minute (10 m/s). The aircraft experienced a peak vertical speed close to 7,000 feet per minute (36 m/s; 130 km/h), which occurred as Bonin brought the rolling movements under control.</quote>You know, if I'd read this article a couple of months ago I'm not sure this would have all made sense to me, but having played Flight Simulator a lot over the past few weeks those are holy shit numbers </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
pojr 08/26/21 11:35:34 AM #7:	MisterPengy posted... How can an actual pilot be that dumb?! Did they not even play Microsoft Flight Simulator? Every one knows you'll crash if all you do is hold the stick back...It's the best part of the game. I did not know this lol, but good thing in not a pilot --- pojr I summon it. You spell it. <cite>pojr posted [p:957455432] in The story ... [t:79632373]...</cite> <quote>MisterPengy posted... </cite> <quote>How can an actual pilot be that dumb?! Did they not even play Microsoft Flight Simulator? Every one knows you'll crash if all you do is hold the stick back...It's the best part of the game.</quote>I did not know this lol, but good thing in not a pilot </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
eston 08/26/21 11:38:02 AM #8:	pojr posted... I did not know this lol, but good thing in not a pilot Yeah one of the things I learned very quickly in Flight Simulator is that tilting the plane up or down has an immediate and direct effect on air speed --- http://i73.photobucket.com/albums/i215/estonc/grizzly_bear_chairs_2.jpg https://imgur.com/8kjZU <cite>eston posted [p:957455483] in The story ... [t:79632373]...</cite> <quote>pojr posted... </cite> <quote>I did not know this lol, but good thing in not a pilot</quote>Yeah one of the things I learned very quickly in Flight Simulator is that tilting the plane up or down has an immediate and direct effect on air speed </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ledbowman 08/26/21 11:57:27 AM #9:	Masao posted... "I don't get it! I've been pulling the stick back all this time!" did he also detach it and hand it to the captain when he said to give it to him --- pisces <cite>ledbowman posted [p:957456069] in The story ... [t:79632373]...</cite> <quote>Masao posted... </cite> <quote>"I don't get it! I've been pulling the stick back all this time!"</quote>did he also detach it and hand it to the captain when he said to give it to him </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
SiO4 08/26/21 11:59:58 AM #10:	Try looking up Alaska Airlines Flight 261 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alaska_Airlines_Flight_261 --- "Whatever the reason you're on Mars, I'm glad you're there, and I wish I was with you." ~Carl Sagan. Currently playing: Flight Simulator X.~PC <cite>SiO4 posted [p:957456140] in The story ... [t:79632373]...</cite> <quote>Try looking up Alaska Airlines Flight 261 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alaska_Airlines_Flight_261</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
theAteam 08/26/21 12:04:07 PM #11:	I think I listened to a podcast once about this flight. It was a landmark event that changed the way airlines approached autopilot. Pilots didn't know how to respond to issues because they had become to completely reliant on autopilot. --- Buffalo Bills Season Prediction: 13-4 Week 1 (9/12): vs. PIT <cite>theAteam posted [p:957456265] in The story ... [t:79632373]...</cite> <quote>I think I listened to a podcast once about this flight. It was a landmark event that changed the way airlines approached autopilot. Pilots didn't know how to respond to issues because they had become to completely reliant on autopilot. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ShyOx 08/26/21 12:46:59 PM #12:	How about for some feel good we go to Sully https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sully_Sullenberger Both his engines died and he landed in the Hudson river... saving all aboard. Good pilots > bad pilots Also they apparently didn't get enough sleep which is like the no 1 reason planes crash. --- http://img836.imageshack.us/img836/6938/vyqp.jpg DIPLOMACY <cite>ShyOx posted [p:957457571] in The story ... [t:79632373]...</cite> <quote>How about for some feel good we go to Sully https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sully_Sullenberger Both his engines died and he landed in the Hudson river... saving all aboard. Good pilots > bad pilots Also they apparently didn't get enough sleep which is like the no 1 reason planes crash. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Thompson 08/26/21 12:50:35 PM #13:	ShyOx posted... Both his engines died ...from the strain of converting a dozen birds into meat ribbons. --- Sigs are rather pointless, except if it's to showcase animation and images. <cite>Thompson posted [p:957457674] in The story ... [t:79632373]...</cite> <quote>ShyOx posted... </cite> <quote>Both his engines died</quote>...from the strain of converting a dozen birds into meat ribbons. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
iPhone_7 08/26/21 12:55:07 PM #14:	Thompson posted... ...from the strain of converting a dozen birds into meat ribbons. The horror..the horror --- Sig User Logic https://imgur.com/lA5fm7w <cite>iPhone_7 posted [p:957457808] in The story ... [t:79632373]...</cite> <quote>Thompson posted... </cite> <quote>...from the strain of converting a dozen birds into meat ribbons.</quote>The horror..the horror </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
SaltyWet 08/26/21 1:03:15 PM #15:	Puglia77 posted... Yeah earlier this year I was in the mood for watching tons of flight crash documentaries and this was featured in Seconds from Disaster. IIRC they were trained to pull back on the stick so they had to update training protocol after this? I want to watch more crash documentaries but I think I've watched them all. No. Stick down to prevent stall. ShyOx posted... How about for some feel good we go to Sully https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sully_Sullenberger Both his engines died and he landed in the Hudson river... saving all aboard. Good pilots > bad pilots Also they apparently didn't get enough sleep which is like the no 1 reason planes crash. Sully gets credit for keeping his cool. The technical feat of his water ditching wasn't all that technically impressive tho. --- FlowerBridge <cite>SaltyWet posted [p:957458025] in The story ... [t:79632373]...</cite> <quote>Puglia77 posted... </cite> <quote>Yeah earlier this year I was in the mood for watching tons of flight crash documentaries and this was featured in Seconds from Disaster. IIRC they were trained to pull back on the stick so they had to update training protocol after this? I want to watch more crash documentaries but I think I've watched them all.</quote>No. Stick down to prevent stall. ShyOx posted... </cite> <quote>How about for some feel good we go to Sully https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sully_Sullenberger Both his engines died and he landed in the Hudson river... saving all aboard. Good pilots > bad pilots Also they apparently didn't get enough sleep which is like the no 1 reason planes crash.</quote>Sully gets credit for keeping his cool. The technical feat of his water ditching wasn't all that technically impressive tho. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Thompson 08/26/21 1:17:18 PM #16:	SaltyWet posted... The technical feat of his water ditching wasn't all that technically impressive tho. It could've gone a lot worse, though. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w1u0D0E-Bq0 --- Sigs are rather pointless, except if it's to showcase animation and images. <cite>Thompson posted [p:957458431] in The story ... [t:79632373]...</cite> <quote>SaltyWet posted... </cite> <quote>The technical feat of his water ditching wasn't all that technically impressive tho.</quote>It could've gone a lot worse, though. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w1u0D0E-Bq0 </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
SaltyWet 08/26/21 1:18:16 PM #17:	Thompson posted... It could've gone a lot worse, though. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w1u0D0E-Bq0 Yes it could've. If it had been a day with terrible visibility and the waters were anything but calm. --- FlowerBridge <cite>SaltyWet posted [p:957458463] in The story ... [t:79632373]...</cite> <quote>Thompson posted... </cite> <quote>It could've gone a lot worse, though. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w1u0D0E-Bq0</quote>Yes it could've. If it had been a day with terrible visibility and the waters were anything but calm. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
CapnMuffin 08/26/21 1:23:22 PM #18:	Weird event. So the plane was angled up but descending due to stall? And the co pilot was insistent on keep nosing up? <cite>CapnMuffin posted [p:957458639] in The story ... [t:79632373]...</cite> <quote>Weird event. So the plane was angled up but descending due to stall? And the co pilot was insistent on keep nosing up? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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