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LordMarshal
08/25/21 7:11:10 AM
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DocDelicious
08/25/21 7:39:05 AM
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I don't think it's ever worked properly in a video game because doing the evil shit is still fun as hell, but usually they want you to be sad about it.

Even SotC, killing the Colossi is fun as fuck and I'll gladly do it over and over.

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Nukazie
08/25/21 8:16:00 AM
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LordMarshal posted...



jesus lol

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Ilishe
08/25/21 8:19:00 AM
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The police in SWAT 4 are fine, fuck off. Surreal, maybe, because of it.

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Stewman_Magoo
08/25/21 8:19:48 AM
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Have we all forgotten KOTOR?

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SilverBloodX3
08/25/21 8:19:58 AM
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Nier

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spikethedevil
08/25/21 8:21:13 AM
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Stewman_Magoo posted...
Have we all forgotten KOTOR?

Read all the posts lol @Stewman_Magoo

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Fony
08/25/21 8:21:42 AM
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LordFarquad1312 posted...
There's a classic Bioware one that did it fine I think.

Jade Empire?

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spikethedevil
08/25/21 8:24:57 AM
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Fony posted...
Jade Empire?

Its to do with a conflict in space so not Jade Empire.

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DocileOrangeCup
08/25/21 8:25:26 AM
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Smackems posted...
PS2 action adventure

mgs3 does it well in one spot
Wait what when I'm blanking

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dummy420
08/25/21 8:29:27 AM
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Spec Ops the line was great and you wont convince me otherwise.

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DaTwistedGuns
08/25/21 8:42:43 AM
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Pokemon Snap.
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Nintendo_Porn
08/25/21 8:45:51 AM
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cuh posted...
Bruh.

Yes it has!

Spoilers:
Genre: visual novel
Original system release: PlayStation Portable in Japan, but Vita in USA
Series title: Danganronpa
Full spoilers: the first case of Danganronpa V3 has you playing as the protagonist who also orchestrated the first murder in the game

The game had to omit shit for it to work, so i disagree. For a series known for detail it stands out that they had to cheat to get there.

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Citrik
08/25/21 8:59:26 AM
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I think Infamous pulled it off pretty well.

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spikethedevil
08/25/21 9:13:23 AM
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@Smackems We knew we were playing as Big Boss from the start in MGS3.


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AuroraUnit836
08/25/21 9:57:09 AM
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metroid 2

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spikethedevil
08/25/21 11:21:13 AM
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AuroraUnit836 posted...
metroid 2

What?

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Questionmarktarius
08/25/21 11:25:45 AM
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spikethedevil posted...
What?
It's a straight-up genocide mission.
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Aressar
08/25/21 11:49:00 AM
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spikethedevil posted...
@Smackems We knew we were playing as Big Boss from the start in MGS3.

Although that took place long before he could be considered a villain in any way.

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Smackems
08/25/21 12:28:00 PM
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spikethedevil posted...
@Smackems We knew we were playing as Big Boss from the start in MGS3.
I meant the river

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dj1200
08/25/21 2:33:28 PM
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DavidZ2844 posted...
@dj1200
Can you mention just what season it is?
@DavidZ2844
Ill have to read the synopses because I forget exactly what episode it was but Ill get back to you after my class.


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Slayer_22
08/25/21 3:40:08 PM
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Smackems posted...

I meant the river

Did you guys actually kill in MGS3? I used non-lethal stuff and it was the shortest shit.

Hell, I used non-lethal against the bosses too, but those don't count I guess lol
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TheChariot
08/25/21 3:46:00 PM
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TheRadiant posted...
Final Fantasy Tactics Advance

If you lack a brain
My brain is fully functioning, which is why I know Marche is the villain. Maybe you don't understand Final Fantasy lore.

Anyone who destroys or corrupts Light Crystals is a villain. Marche destroyed Light Crystals. So he is evil.

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Finis-XII
08/25/21 4:08:50 PM
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TheChariot posted...
My brain is fully functioning, which is why I know Marche is the villain. Maybe you don't understand Final Fantasy lore.

Anyone who destroys or corrupts Light Crystals is a villain. Marche destroyed Light Crystals. So he is evil.
This, actually.

Also the fact that he's basically subjecting his brother back to a life stuck in a wheelchair again, I'd say that alone undoubtedly makes him the villain. The truth is that Marche is a selfish douche, the game makes it clearly obvious and the contrarians arguing otherwise are the ones who are actually lacking a brain.

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TheChariot
08/25/21 4:13:34 PM
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Finis-XII posted...
This, actually.

Also the fact that he's basically subjecting his brother back to a life stuck in a wheelchair again, I'd say that alone undoubtedly makes him the villain. The truth is that Marche is a selfish douche, the game makes it clearly obvious and the contrarians arguing otherwise are the ones who are actually lacking a brain.
That's definitely the most damning thing that makes him a villain. I actually had people on the game board straight up pretend not to see my posts when I said that and just kept up their NPC "Escapism is bad" posts.

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spikethedevil
08/26/21 5:20:36 AM
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Slayer_22 posted...
Did you guys actually kill in MGS3? I used non-lethal stuff and it was the shortest shit.

Hell, I used non-lethal against the bosses too, but those don't count I guess lol

Yeah using the river was a reach on his part.

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DavidZ2844
08/26/21 5:31:27 AM
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@dj1200 dj1200 posted...
@DavidZ2844
Ill have to read the synopses because I forget exactly what episode it was but Ill get back to you after my class.
thanks, appreciate it, just whenever you get the chance
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pegusus123456
08/26/21 5:32:44 AM
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DavidZ2844 posted...
@dj1200
thanks, appreciate it, just whenever you get the chance
Black Mirror spoilers: It's the episode with the trollface. Or if you want the episode title Shut Up And Dance.

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Bass_X0
08/26/21 5:32:54 AM
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Darmik posted...
I absolutely hated that twist.

well

keep playing.

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_____Cait
08/26/21 5:39:06 AM
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There was that one Gamecube rpg but. Spolers

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spikethedevil
08/26/21 5:39:36 AM
#83:


_____Cait posted...
There was that one Gamecube rpg but. Spolers

Spoiler tags @_____Cait

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Smackems
08/26/21 5:49:09 AM
#84:


Slayer_22 posted...
Did you guys actually kill in MGS3? I used non-lethal stuff and it was the shortest shit.

Hell, I used non-lethal against the bosses too, but those don't count I guess lol
Well yeah. Most of the fun stuff is lethal

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gunplagirl
08/26/21 5:55:43 AM
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Okay but there is some truth to saying you were the bad guy in MGS3 in the sense that upon finding out the truth behind operation snake eater, Big Boss realized that not only had he been part of a cover up operation that destroyed the entire legacy of his mentor, but that he'd become little more than a puppet to American interests by doing what he had been and that he could no longer trust them considering the entire reason for the cover up was because of a miscalculation on the part of the US government.

That's also why the ending is so heartbreaking, because it's what sets him down the path he'd follow later on.

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spikethedevil
08/26/21 6:25:05 AM
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Yeah but we knew we were playing as Big Boss so it doesnt really count.

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gunplagirl
08/26/21 6:26:05 AM
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spikethedevil posted...
Yeah but we knew we were playing as Big Boss so it doesnt really count.
Derp I forgot all about the topic being about it being a twist. XD

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Slayer_22
08/26/21 8:26:49 AM
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Smackems posted...

Well yeah. Most of the fun stuff is lethal

Idk, I feel like there is fun sneaking around and knocking people out
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_____Cait
08/26/21 8:32:17 AM
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spikethedevil posted...
Spoiler tags @_____Cait

baten kaitos. You actually play as the main charactrs spirit guide. In the opening cutscene, you both wake up from what seemed to be an attack. You start gathering a party to get revenge, there seems to be a traitor in the group. Turns out it was the main character lying to everyone. He had you to vouch for him because he wiped your memory before the events of the opening cutscene, so as you start the game, you literally think nothing of it. Its really well done and unexpected, and you even abandon the main for a good time after that, until everything gets sorted out.

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