Current Events > Are we experiencing collapse of our civilization atm?

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Seems like so these days. The seams holding the whole world is falling apart, on top of the looming climate crisis.

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It certainly does feel like it, doesn't it? But then again, lots of people have thought that over the years. Without question, Western civilization seems to be in decline. Whether or not that decline is terminal or not remains to be seen. The climate crisis looks like it could eventually doom us all because humanity is collectively too stupid and tribal to work toward a common goal.

No thatll come with climate change.

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Yup. Bipolar Politics (us vs. them) killed it. This is the peak.


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Ha no. If only it were that easy. We're definitely all fucked but the earth is even more fucked cause no doubt at least some humans will survive so they can further fuck up the environment.

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darkmaian23 posted...

It certainly does feel like it, doesn't it? But then again, lots of people have thought that over the years. Without question, Western civilization seems to be in decline. Whether or not that decline is terminal or not remains to be seen. The climate crisis looks like it could eventually doom us all because humanity is collectively too stupid and tribal to work toward a common goal.

When you're right you're right!
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The UK will collapse in a few days if Brexit impacts Beer or Tea.

There will be roving gangs of middle class people tutting at everyone whilst the working classes divide into subsections of "Cahncull Estayts Innit" with barbed wire fences and burning Vauxhalls.
Which is pretty much how it is now tbh, but people will be thirstier and sober.


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Imit8m3 posted...

Yup. Bipolar Politics (us vs. them) killed it. This is the peak.

The peak is behind us.

We are looking at a steep decline too.

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We literally have the tools to fix climate change but corporate oil and greedy is refusing to budge and still be corrupt with governments, we could pick one; solar, wind or thermal. But we have all three to implement but people are too greedy

Kingbuffet posted...

We literally have the tools to fix climate change but corporate oil and greedy is refusing to budge and still be corrupt with governments, we could pick one; solar, wind or thermal. But we have all three to implement but people are too greedy

Now you understand why the planeteer that wielded the power of heart was the most important.

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it's so fucking slow though that one might think everything's going to be alright

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Any day now. Anyone wanna guess what it'll be replaced with?

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This is why aliens won't reveal themselves to us. At this point they're basically watching a soap opera.

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Iceland seems to be doing fine.

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BloodMoon7 posted...

Ha no. If only it were that easy. We're definitely all fucked but the earth is even more fucked cause no doubt at least some humans will survive so they can further fuck up the environment.

The earth will mostly be fine and it'll be business as usual. Humans however, are screwed, as the planet has existed without us as it's done before. Now if some big brain manages to fracture the planet in half or cause a thermal runaway somehow. Then yeah..

Xavier_On_High posted...

Iceland seems to be doing fine.

They wont be able to escape the harm that the entire world is doing to the environment. They might be better off, but when theres no oxygen to breathe, we are all screwed over.

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Payzmaykr posted...

They wont be able to escape the harm that the entire world is doing to the environment. They might be better off, but when theres no oxygen to breathe, we are all screwed over.

I'm hoarding as much oxygen as I can in preparation for that day. Gonna get rich.

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Payzmaykr posted...

They wont be able to escape the harm that the entire world is doing to the environment. They might be better off, but when theres no oxygen to breathe, we are all screwed over.

We're all going to die when the water runs out first. It's happening now in California and parts of Mexico.

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Payzmaykr posted...

They wont be able to escape the harm that the entire world is doing to the environment. They might be better off, but when theres no oxygen to breathe, we are all screwed over.

Nah, they'll all move down into the geothermal cave network and emerge as a race of new gods a thousand years later.

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Is it that time of day for doomposting?

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I just got a mobile ad for that new "Humankind" game in the middle of this thread. Fitting.

wackyteen posted...

Is it that time of day for doomposting?

I doompost every midweeek

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I don't know why people keep having kids, mainly for this reason. The planet is fucked.

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Yup. Humanity will NEVER work together, especially in the current Era with the media and disinformation and stuff the way it is. Climate change will cause refugees all over the place, places becoming unlivable, wars over water and other resources.

America itself will not survive another 50 years in its current form, too bloated, too corrupt, too tribal and divided. The rest of the world will be fucked in its own ways too.

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Stalolin posted...

No thatll come with climate change.

Correct.

No amount of hyperbole, fear-mongering or screaming "the sky is falling" here: this planet earth by 2030 is going to be a miserable place to live on for literally 98% of the population on it.

Why the fuck do you think all these rich ghouls- like Jeff Bezos- are flying ships into space? It's not for the betterment of mankind, they're doing it because they've seen the data, they've heard the science, and they know that even living in a bunker they bought in the midwest (which is also a thing rich people are doing, that isn't a conspiracy theory because it was reported on by multiple news sites a couple years ago) won't save them from climate catastrophe... but getting into space, off of this planet, might. Not will, might, with no guarantee.

Does all of that sound nihilistic? Well, yeah, but all civilizations fall and so too do dominant species. I guess if you're religious- I'm not- you can take solace in the idea of a place beyond this sinking ship. I take more solace in the idea that when my time comes for the apocalypse, I'll finally get some rest since I'm 34 and my body is already falling apart from working two jobs throughout my 20's because I was born poor, and have stayed poor.

Yeah, not like the great depression, either world war, the threat of nuclear holocaust, or even a literal civil war

No, NOW is the end, cause rich people

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bluezero posted...

I don't know why people keep having kids, mainly for this reason. The planet is fucked.

Honestly, I have nightmares about stuff happening to my sister and my nephews almost every night now. I worry about the coming years for them so much, it stresses me out.

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Heck yeah!

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Wii_Shaker posted...

We're all going to die when the water runs out first. It's happening now in California and parts of Mexico.

Uh, more than those. The entire southwest of North America is fucked. Every single state and city(and Northern Mexico) that relies on the Colorado River for water will become unlivable very, very soon. Water restrictions are starting for it. I live in Phoenix, I already know I'm gonna have to bail on this place within a decade.

LA, San Diego, Phoenix, Las Vegas, Denver, San Francisco, etc.. Will all no longer be able to sustain their current larger populations within the next 10-20 years.

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steveoSEK posted...

Uh, more than those. The entire southwest of North America is fucked. Every single state and city(and Northern Mexico) that relies on the Colorado River for water will become unlivable very, very soon. Water restrictions are starting for it. I live in Phoenix, I already know I'm gonna have to bail on this place within a decade.

LA, San Diego, Phoenix, Las Vegas, Denver, San Francisco, etc.. Will all no longer be able to sustain their current larger populations within the next 10-20 years.

Gonna be kind of crazy when all the coastal folks will be crawling into the lame "flyover states" of the Midwest.

Brb buying up tons of land in Idaho

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SergeantGander posted...

Gonna be kind of crazy when all the coastal folks will be crawling into the lame "flyover states" of the Midwest.

Brb buying up tons of land in Idaho

Legitimately, the new Hotspots of population in America will be the Mississippi River and great lakes. It just so happens the Mississippi River bisects the country too lol.

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SergeantGander posted...

Gonna be kind of crazy when all the coastal folks will be crawling into the lame "flyover states" of the Midwest.

Brb buying up tons of land in Idaho

I live in California. I don't think I will. Like maybe I won't survive but at least I won't be in the midwest.

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BloodMoon7 posted...

I live in California. I don't think I will. Like maybe I won't survive but at least I won't be in the midwest.

I grew up in St Louis, live in Phoenix now. I'll take my chances literally anywhere else but St Louis lol. Miserable shit hole that place is.

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I mean, most pax don't last more than 250 years at a maximum. Realistically, we're due for an upheaval.

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Kingbuffet posted...

We literally have the tools to fix climate change

Not quite. We could cut off all human related carbon emissions right now, and even build more carbon recapture plants, and things are still going to get worse before they get better.

We do have a lot of ability to mitigate future disaster, though.

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EndOfDiscOne posted...

Not quite. We could cut off all human related carbon emissions right now, and even build more carbon recapture plants, and things are still going to get worse before they get better.

We do have a lot of ability to mitigate future disaster, though.

We won't do anything though. A giant chunk of the planet still uses coal lol

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EndOfDiscOne posted...

Not quite. We could cut off all human related carbon emissions right now, and even build more carbon recapture plants, and things are still going to get worse before they get better.

We do have a lot of ability to mitigate future disaster, though.

One problem at this point is the green technology we need to transition causes environmental damage to produce. It makes up for it in the long run, but climate change is rapidly becoming a short-term problem. So switching to renewables can make things worse before it makes things better.

The other problem is we don't have green solutions to every problem yet. There's no way people will be able to meat at current levels sustainably for example. Cultured meat is still a decade away from price parity and hasn't even proven it is scalable yet.

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steveoSEK posted...

We won't do anything though. A giant chunk of the planet still uses coal lol

It may not feel like it, but we have done a lot. We saved the ozone later, and we'd be a lot worse off now if we had not. There is still way too much coal, but renewable energy is growing all the time. There's still too much beef, but alternatives have come a long way. IIRC we have curbed the 2100 warming projection from 4 degrees to 3 degrees. We definitely aren't doing enough, but we're doing something.

Anyway I'm not a scientist so I welcome any critiques.

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At this rate, the only way to fight climate change is to put in mandatory veganism and make eating meat a crime of two to three years in prison. That is the only way to actually make a dent. Extreme situations require extreme rules.

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Not really, unless you just never go outside and watch mainstream media all day.

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