Poll of the Day > Captain Picard was an idiot.

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That episode where Q lost his powers and then got them back at the end and wanted to reward Picard. Picard was all like just leave my ship. While he could have asked Q to stop putting humanity on trial.

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Picard is Q's tsundere lover... he only wanted him gone

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seriously though

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FatBecky posted...

That episode where Q lost his powers and then got them back at the end and wanted to reward Picard. Picard was all like just leave my ship. While he could have asked Q to stop putting humanity on trial.

i believe he assumed his request also counted as stop putting humanity on trial

also he didnt even realize humanity was still on trial until the last episode where Q said humanity is still on trial
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Speaking of Q, I was kinda hoping at the end of All Good Things...when Q was commenting about humanity's next step in evolution. I was thinking / kinda hoping Q was hinting humanity will eventually evolve to the same level as Q.

On another note, with how much power the Q yields, I am kinda surprised most captains treat them more like spoiled children instead of some universal level deity.

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hey remember when he didn't move those white hippies from their stupid planet in order to save all those super sick people in the movie? And then went on no less than 3 times to move other groups of people, some of which were native americans? Funny.

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Kimbos_Egg posted...

hey remember when he didn't move those white hippies from their stupid planet in order to save all those super sick people in the movie? And then went on no less than 3 times to move other groups of people, some of which were native americans? Funny.

You mean those people who hated technology even though they were clearly using technology?
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LeetCheet posted...

You mean those people who hated technology even though they were clearly using technology?

oh yes, excuse me, i forgot how fucking stupid those people were.

Or why they had fucking magic

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InfestedAdam posted...

Speaking of Q, I was kinda hoping at the end of All Good Things...when Q was commenting about humanity's next step in evolution. I was thinking / kinda hoping Q was hinting humanity will eventually evolve to the same level as Q.

On another note, with how much power the Q yields, I am kinda surprised most captains treat them more like spoiled children instead of some universal level deity.

Well, a lot of the time Q did act like a spoiled child. I should recognize that, since Im also a deity that acts like a spoiled child.

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InfestedAdam posted...

I was thinking / kinda hoping Q was hinting humanity will eventually evolve to the same level as Q.

Wesley already ascended into a higher being. There's also the Galactic Barrier that grants people psychic powers. To an extent the Douwd. Then there's the Zalkonian evolution. The actual Greek god Apollo. Star Trek does not need more god like beings.

Edit: How did I forget to mention the Organians?

Kimbos_Egg posted...

in order to save all those super sick people in the movie?

If you mean Insurrection those sick people were originally from the planet and were only sick because they were aging normally.

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Metalsonic66 posted...

no u

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SKARDAVNELNATE posted...

If you mean Insurrection those sick people were originally from the planet and were only sick because they were aging normally.

Why weren't they allowed to visit the planet though? I don't remember because I hated that movie so much.
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FatBecky posted...

That episode where Q lost his powers and then got them back at the end and wanted to reward Picard. Picard was all like just leave my ship. While he could have asked Q to stop putting humanity on trial.

That's not how Picard rolls.

He said something before about Q in that he's "one of (if not the most) interesting beings they've ever discovered, but he's next of kin to chaos". You know, back when Trek had actual writers worth 2 shits.

SKARDAVNELNATE posted...

To an extent the Douwd.

This guy Treks. I like this guy.

S3 is my favorite of TNG by a wide margin, The Survivors is an awesome episode!

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Picard's stance was humanity was already enlightened and didn't need help, Q likes to prove Picard wrong to tease him.
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InfestedAdam posted...

I was thinking / kinda hoping Q was hinting humanity will eventually evolve to the same level as Q.

Probably more likely the Borg.

TigerTycoon posted...

Picard's stance was humanity was already enlightened and didn't need help

Boy was he wrong about that. Picard proved that humanity hasn't changed 1 bit since the 20th century. Q is probably showing up in season 2 to tell humanity they've failed and will now be blinked out of existence.

jiffdiff posted...

Boy was he wrong about that. Picard proved that humanity hasn't changed 1 bit since the 20th century. Q is probably showing up in season 2 to tell humanity they've failed and will now be blinked out of existence.

They'll never ever do this, but how great would it be for Picard to sit down and tell Q about all the stupid things that happened in S1 with this super serious face just for Q to say "What? That's the dumbest thing I've ever heard!" and snap his fingers and just erase that whole sorry mess.

That scene alone would make anybody's top 5 Trek moments list pretty instantly.

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I kinda assumed Q was interested from a time travelers perspective. The Q are later development of humanity and Qs interest was like Martys interest in George McFly in the 50s in BTTF.

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FrndNhbrHdCEman posted...

I kinda assumed Q was interested from a time travelers perspective.

Q was originally just bored and enjoyed messing with lower species.

He later develops an affection for Picard that as Data explained it, was like the affection one feels for a pet they love.
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LeetCheet posted...

Why weren't they allowed to visit the planet though? I don't remember because I hated that movie so much.

From what I recall the Son'a were the generation that was born after discovering the planet. They got bored with their peaceful way of life and rebelled against their parents. After that they were either exiled, or threw a fit and left on their own. Depending on which it was they didn't visit because either the parents still had technological superiority, or they were still angry with their parents and too proud to return.

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LeetCheet posted...

Why weren't they allowed to visit the planet though?

It not that they were not allowed it's that they didn't want to while their parents were still there, as revealed at the end of the movie, StarFleet was not just removing a non native species, they were aiding one faction of that species over another in a civil war, which is a big no no under the Prime Directive.

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Oh. Makes sense I guess.
It is still the worst Star Trek movie in my opinion.
At least The Final Frontier had a somewhat interesting premise.
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LeetCheet posted...

It is still the worst Star Trek movie in my opinion.

Did you miss Into Darkness? That movie was actually difficult to sit through, not only was it laughably terrible, but it was also an assault on the senses.

LeetCheet posted...

At least The Final Frontier had a somewhat interesting premise.

Are you serious? It had a terrible premise.

LeetCheet posted...

It is still the worst Star Trek movie in my opinion.

jiffdiff posted...

Did you miss Into Darkness?

I was going to say Nemesis or The Motion Picture (Look out! It's the Voyager Space Probe)

The new alt timeline movies may be objectively bad examples of Star Trek, but they are not boring or completely out of character.

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KodyKeir posted...

The new alt timeline movies may be objectively bad examples of Star Trek, but they are not boring or completely out of character.

If explosions is all it takes for you not to be bored then I suppose I can see how you would find it entertaining. Of course, It's a profoundly uncreative movie fill with non-nonsensical plot devices, holes and handwaving to get to the next set piece firefight. As for "out of character" I suppose that's true in the sense that there are more bad Star Trek movies than good ones, but Into Darkness really stands out in its awfulness.

jiffdiff posted...

If explosions is all it takes for you not to be bored then I suppose I can see how you would find it entertaining.

It's why Michael Bay is still making movies. For an action film it delivers, especially if you can mentally divorce it from the Star Trek Franchise or see it as a fan fic that somehow got green lit. As a Star Trek Film,

jiffdiff posted...

Into Darkness really stands out in its awfulness.

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InfestedAdam posted...

Speaking of Q, I was kinda hoping at the end of All Good Things...when Q was commenting about humanity's next step in evolution. I was thinking / kinda hoping Q was hinting humanity will eventually evolve to the same level as Q.

On another note, with how much power the Q yields, I am kinda surprised most captains treat them more like spoiled children instead of some universal level deity.

TNG-Q in particular, most of the humans he meets (that know who he is, at least) will know that he tends not to be actively malicious unless you piss him off, typically by insulting him or otherwise bruising his ego. He likes pushing people's buttons to get a reaction, such as when he goaded Sisko into decking him.

So most Starfleet officers that deal with him (like Janeway) would follow Picard's playbook of just humoring him until he gets bored and leaves, which he invariably does.

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DiScOrD tHe LuNaTiC posted...

He likes pushing people's buttons to get a reaction

Honestly this is my favorite part about Q, it's hilarious and never gets old. Even Q showing up on Picard's ship in a uniform and rank matching his is funny as hell.

LeetCheet posted...

Oh. Makes sense I guess.
It is still the worst Star Trek movie in my opinion.
At least The Final Frontier had a somewhat interesting premise.

The Final Frontier had some of the best jokes as well.

Spock!

Yes, Captain?

.......BEONEWITHTHEHORSE

Yes, Captain...

Hahaha

jiffdiff posted...

I suppose that's true in the sense that there are more bad Star Trek movies than good ones, but Into Darkness really stands out in its awfulness.

Great:

• Wrath of Khan (Timeless classic. Wits against wits. It'll never be topped)
• Undiscovered Country (Should've been Kirk's swansong)
• Search for Spock (gets a really bad rep as an odd-numbered Trek, but this is a classic film!)
• Voyage Home (DER BE WHALES HERE!)

Good:

• First Contact (Should've been the end of the Borg, as the watering down was in full force around this time. Not really super rewatchable to me but it's the best of the TNG movies for sure)
• Star Trek 2009 (I thought this was entertaining, even if they did some wtf stuff here and there)
• Beyond (the character interaction was done really well, and Jayla is a good new character we'll probably never see again)
• Insurrection (like everyone else says, this is essentially an OK TNG 2 parter. Like... "Time's Arrow" levels of quality, i.e. not too great)
• Generations (Lighting is ass in most ship scenes, destruction of the ENT-D was a huge mistake, but otherwise I like this one)

Eh....

• Final Frontier (good comedy in places, some GREAT scenes like McCoy's dad and the campfire scene)
• Into Darkness (Great visuals, that's about it. Transporting from planet to planet WTF?? Ripping off WoK somehow makes WoK worse, which is unforgivable)
• Nemesis (They show Picard at the academy as a kid in a picture.. BALD. Did nobody do any research for this thing??)
• Motionless Picture

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Black_Crusher posted...

Even Q showing up on Picard's ship in a uniform and rank matching his is funny as hell.

He actually had on Admiral Bars to show he thought that he outranked everyone.

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KodyKeir posted...

It not that they were not allowed it's that they didn't want to while their parents were still there, as revealed at the end of the movie, StarFleet was not just removing a non native species, they were aiding one faction of that species over another in a civil war, which is a big no no under the Prime Directive.

In other words: The writers were so dumb they had to come up with stupid reasons for you to "side" with the hippies. Which failed miserably.

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I never bothered with the new movies. Heard they were bad so eh.

I kinda liked the idea of finding God in space, even if it doesn't make sense.

I liked Sybok. I dunno why I just do lol
And he was Spock's brother IIRC.

Nemesis wasn't too bad either IMO.

The only movies I can't stand watching is Insurrection, closely followed by The Motion Picture.
Insurrection is stupid and is frustrating to watch and TMP is so damn boring because most of the time, literally nothing happens and we're just staring at the endless void of space.
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LeetCheet posted...

I never bothered with the new movies. Heard they were bad so eh.

I kinda liked the idea of finding God in space, even if it doesn't make sense.

I liked Sybok. I dunno why I just do lol
And he was Spock's brother IIRC.

Laurence Luckinbill was by far the best part of TFF. He was very charismatic.

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